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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:07 pm

our situation was certainly concerning I just wasnt a fan of your 'crying poor' comment. Its not like the club was complaing about not having any money or blaming anyone else.

i am thankful that the club have the right ppl in place to turn the finances around.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:08 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
The Apostle AK wrote:I still think it's "funny" that Sturt were crying poor back in October :(( and now suddenly seem to have their own pot of gold. :-?


good business plans AK!

i cant remember the club crying poor, just ppl reporting on our situation.


Talking to a long time Sturt man during the week, he said he went to the AGM last year and the talk of the financial situation was very dire, and here we are 12 months later and things are looking very positive...at the end of the say I think its great they have turned it around, it has just suprised me how quick it has been


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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:56 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
This seems to have been going on this site this pre-season.If its not sturt its the eagles not having money for transfer fees!!
And seeing none of us have seen any of the clubs finances its probably just a baited hook thrown out to get bite by some bored posters ;)


Must admit I haen't seen or heard anything about the Eagles on here, thought they were fairly healthy.
Club's finances are pretty well known by most, its not like they're a secret as they're reported fairly publicly every year. I would say most of us have seen club's finances, definately not "none".


Perhaps u should read a post by the sleeping giant he was trying to say Eagles had transfer fee problems .But no one answered him ;)
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24829&p=870573#p870573
Well I haven't seen any club finances but have heard the Eagles have improved greatly .


1 poster making an ill informed comment hardly speaks for the entire site like you mentioned in your post.
I personally thought the Eagles had been doing OK since opening their establishment on Port Rd a few years back.


Partly correct Partly incorrect
Was doing well until the smoking ban then turned it around with a smoking area I believe .
Mind u Wedgie that was only 1 poster there were other comments made when the Eagles signed Parry and Welsh .
But why re start something .I cant be bothered .
There goes that more than 4 quote thing again I hate that!!
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:05 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
This seems to have been going on this site this pre-season.If its not sturt its the eagles not having money for transfer fees!!
And seeing none of us have seen any of the clubs finances its probably just a baited hook thrown out to get bite by some bored posters ;)


Must admit I haen't seen or heard anything about the Eagles on here, thought they were fairly healthy.
Club's finances are pretty well known by most, its not like they're a secret as they're reported fairly publicly every year. I would say most of us have seen club's finances, definately not "none".


Perhaps u should read a post by the sleeping giant he was trying to say Eagles had transfer fee problems .But no one answered him ;)
http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 73#p870573
Well I haven't seen any club finances but have heard the Eagles have improved greatly .


1 poster making an ill informed comment hardly speaks for the entire site like you mentioned in your post.
I personally thought the Eagles had been doing OK since opening their establishment on Port Rd a few years back.


FFS.

It's not ill informed. Comes from an excellent source. The Eagles couldn't afford the transfer fee for James Boyd. They have thrown bucket loads at Scott Welsh and Craig Parry.

You can choose not to believe what I have heard MickyJ, but remember, other club supporters may know whats going on at your club.

p.s. Never said your lot were in financial trouble. Maybe your transfer fee budget has been blown already.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:37 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:FFS.

It's not ill informed. Comes from an excellent source. The Eagles couldn't afford the transfer fee for James Boyd. They have thrown bucket loads at Scott Welsh and Craig Parry.

You can choose not to believe what I have heard MickyJ, but remember, other club supporters may know whats going on at your club.

p.s. Never said your lot were in financial trouble. Maybe your transfer fee budget has been blown already.


Funny how I woke you up Sleeping Giant .Just for what its worth I passed on your thoughts to the Eagles CEO thursday night (Matt1 saw me talking with him ;) ).He laughed at what you said and told me we are in much better shape than this time last year.
So for forum Readers you can weigh up sleeping giant versus Eagles CEO.
I'll let u decide .
No idea about what they have spent except what I was told by a south player about the amount paid for Parry.

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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby locky801 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:42 pm

Mickyj wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:FFS.

It's not ill informed. Comes from an excellent source. The Eagles couldn't afford the transfer fee for James Boyd. They have thrown bucket loads at Scott Welsh and Craig Parry.

You can choose not to believe what I have heard MickyJ, but remember, other club supporters may know whats going on at your club.

p.s. Never said your lot were in financial trouble. Maybe your transfer fee budget has been blown already.


Funny how I woke you up Sleeping Giant .Just for what its worth I passed on your thoughts to the Eagles CEO thursday night (Matt1 saw me talking with him ;) ).He laughed at what you said and told me we are in much better shape than this time last year.
So for forum Readers you can weigh up sleeping giant versus Eagles CEO.
I'll let u decide .
No idea about what they have spent except what I was told by a south player about the amount paid for Parry.

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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:49 pm

locky801 wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:FFS.

It's not ill informed. Comes from an excellent source. The Eagles couldn't afford the transfer fee for James Boyd. They have thrown bucket loads at Scott Welsh and Craig Parry.

You can choose not to believe what I have heard MickyJ, but remember, other club supporters may know whats going on at your club.

p.s. Never said your lot were in financial trouble. Maybe your transfer fee budget has been blown already.


Funny how I woke you up Sleeping Giant .Just for what its worth I passed on your thoughts to the Eagles CEO thursday night (Matt1 saw me talking with him ;) ).He laughed at what you said and told me we are in much better shape than this time last year.
So for forum Readers you can weigh up sleeping giant versus Eagles CEO.
I'll let u decide .
No idea about what they have spent except what I was told by a south player about the amount paid for Parry.

Cheers



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I think the change being the first time since 2005 or 2006 or even earlier.The Eagles have actually gone out early and recruited players needed in specific areas.
Parry to replace an unsure and now retired Dobber
Welsh to replace a retired Macgregor who was going to play up forward.

And judging by the amount of "GODS" Eagle Army that showed up at fortress Woodville Thursday night .We may well get a very big increase in Eagles crowds .Just IMHO .
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Voice » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:07 pm

Jimmy wrote:
lachlan wrote:Barto,
I'm just agreeing with Voice about the fact that sturt are too old & too slow.

At least with all the tranfer fees you have paid out it means that the clubs cash flow is very strong hence you will now be able to pay all your players on time


too old? too slow?

i actually think we are pretty young...only nelson would be over 30 i think. sheedy and chambo would be 29.

I can't believe anybody took my 'too old, too slow' comment seriously. I put the ;) in. I only said it because people say that about Central every year and they still win the flag. Seeing if it would have the same effect on us.
We are nowhere near old or slow.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Pseudo » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:12 pm

Voice wrote:We are nowhere near old or slow.

Too young, too quick off the mark... ;)
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Voice » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:18 pm

The story from GF week that AK posted only metions once that we've been financially challenged for years. Doesn't say we were poor, doesn't say we couldn't pay our bills.
Just says that we can't come up with the dollars that Central can.
Thinking AK didn't proof read his supposed proof of us crying poor before he posted it.
Truth is we've bought 3 players. Any other clubs bought 3 players before? I'm sure Central have.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:24 pm

Ak, Stuffed if I'm gonna quote the half page of insight and stuff up everyone else on this forum. So I'll do it this way-
To quote you-
"So, they've gone from crying poor 2 months ago to throwing around money left, right and centre (they've paid atleast $75,000 in transfer fees of late)."
left right and centre? mate give up on the exaggerations, FFS.
Do you understand that we have basically got Hassan and,(take your pick) Hinge or Giles for almost the same price you've paid in transfer fees for Boyd! Do you understand that? Entiendo? Sabes tonto?
Where do you base the $75k at?
Not to mention the "at least" bit.
2 months ago? What orrifice do you find this informative lint in?
Recruit 3 players and it's a sin! I couldn't give a shit how we afford it! If we can then we can. If players see a better future and playing enviroment at Sturt then good. Other's misfortune. Call the Vatican!
One thing you need to look at is the amount of players that have left Sturt to another SANFL club recently, how many of those have gone on to become prominent players, THEN, you want to have a look at how many players have come to Sturt recently, stayed and become better players.
So AK, going on that, once you've done the research, (apart from the paper gossip), try to determine the thinking of the players coming to the club based on recent history and any reasons why they want to leave their present/recent club.
here's a list for you going back when we WERE monetarily ******.
Atkinson, Squire, Threadgold, Conway, Bratton, McGlone, Cubillo, Gum, Vassal, Johncock are just off the top of my head, all have stayed for a good amount of time, become better players/medalists/captains and clubmen, none of these have walked out, only retired.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby lachlan » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:47 pm

Voice didn't take it seriously at all your comments about Sturt being too slow & Too Old.

I was writing CRAP like you do
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby whufc » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:51 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:Ak, Stuffed if I'm gonna quote the half page of insight and stuff up everyone else on this forum. So I'll do it this way-
To quote you-
"So, they've gone from crying poor 2 months ago to throwing around money left, right and centre (they've paid atleast $75,000 in transfer fees of late)."
left right and centre? mate give up on the exaggerations, FFS.
Do you understand that we have basically got Hassan and,(take your pick) Hinge or Giles for almost the same price you've paid in transfer fees for Boyd! Do you understand that? Entiendo? Sabes tonto?
Where do you base the $75k at?
Not to mention the "at least" bit.
2 months ago? What orrifice do you find this informative lint in?
Recruit 3 players and it's a sin! I couldn't give a **** how we afford it! If we can then we can. If players see a better future and playing enviroment at Sturt then good. Other's misfortune. Call the Vatican!
One thing you need to look at is the amount of players that have left Sturt to another SANFL club recently, how many of those have gone on to become prominent players, THEN, you want to have a look at how many players have come to Sturt recently, stayed and become better players.
So AK, going on that, once you've done the research, (apart from the paper gossip), try to determine the thinking of the players coming to the club based on recent history and any reasons why they want to leave their present/recent club.
here's a list for you going back when we WERE monetarily ******.
Atkinson, Squire, Threadgold, Conway, Bratton, McGlone, Cubillo, Gum, Vassal, Johncock are just off the top of my head, all have stayed for a good amount of time, become better players/medalists/captains and clubmen, none of these have walked out, only retired.



I acutally think it's great other teams are getting out there and recruiting good on sturt for being pro active BUT is think his basing the $75 000 on what Kris Grant said about the $25000 being the standard transfer fee for a league regular footballer which all them three were. Comparing it to Central is a slight bit different in that we haven't came out and said we are short of cash or in financial danger or anything as such.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Voice » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:11 pm

lachlan wrote:Voice didn't take it seriously at all your comments about Sturt being too slow & Too Old.

I was writing CRAP like you do

Biggest crap part of your comment was the part about paying our players on time. Don't believe some sour grapes from Bays supporters mate. You'll make yourself look as silly as them ;)
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Bunton » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:06 pm

Mickyj wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:FFS.

It's not ill informed. Comes from an excellent source. The Eagles couldn't afford the transfer fee for James Boyd. They have thrown bucket loads at Scott Welsh and Craig Parry.

You can choose not to believe what I have heard MickyJ, but remember, other club supporters may know whats going on at your club.

p.s. Never said your lot were in financial trouble. Maybe your transfer fee budget has been blown already.


Funny how I woke you up Sleeping Giant .Just for what its worth I passed on your thoughts to the Eagles CEO thursday night (Matt1 saw me talking with him ;) ).He laughed at what you said and told me we are in much better shape than this time last year.
So for forum Readers you can weigh up sleeping giant versus Eagles CEO.
I'll let u decide .
No idea about what they have spent except what I was told by a south player about the amount paid for Parry.

Cheers


Ask him this specific question ...

"Did the Eagles say they would take james Boyd in the proviso they could pay the $40k in installments, to which South said no"?
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby spell_check » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:12 pm

Still worried about transfer fees, I see.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Bunton » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:16 pm

spell_check wrote:Still worried about transfer fees, I see.


Just trying to figure out if it is just a face-less name-less blogger (like me) on a chat room lying, or more concerningly, the Eagles CEO trying to cover things up.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:22 pm

Mickyj wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:FFS.

It's not ill informed. Comes from an excellent source. The Eagles couldn't afford the transfer fee for James Boyd. They have thrown bucket loads at Scott Welsh and Craig Parry.

You can choose not to believe what I have heard MickyJ, but remember, other club supporters may know whats going on at your club.

p.s. Never said your lot were in financial trouble. Maybe your transfer fee budget has been blown already.


Funny how I woke you up Sleeping Giant .Just for what its worth I passed on your thoughts to the Eagles CEO thursday night (Matt1 saw me talking with him ;) ).He laughed at what you said and told me we are in much better shape than this time last year.
So for forum Readers you can weigh up sleeping giant versus Eagles CEO.
I'll let u decide .
No idea about what they have spent except what I was told by a south player about the amount paid for Parry.

Cheers


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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:28 pm

Bunton wrote:
Ask him this specific question ...

"Did the Eagles say they would take james Boyd in the proviso they could pay the $40k in installments, to which South said no"?


The Eagles trying to recruit on LayBuy?
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:30 pm

whufc wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:Ak, Stuffed if I'm gonna quote the half page of insight and stuff up everyone else on this forum. So I'll do it this way-
To quote you-
"So, they've gone from crying poor 2 months ago to throwing around money left, right and centre (they've paid atleast $75,000 in transfer fees of late)."
left right and centre? mate give up on the exaggerations, FFS.
Do you understand that we have basically got Hassan and,(take your pick) Hinge or Giles for almost the same price you've paid in transfer fees for Boyd! Do you understand that? Entiendo? Sabes tonto?
Where do you base the $75k at?
Not to mention the "at least" bit.
2 months ago? What orrifice do you find this informative lint in?
Recruit 3 players and it's a sin! I couldn't give a **** how we afford it! If we can then we can. If players see a better future and playing enviroment at Sturt then good. Other's misfortune. Call the Vatican!
One thing you need to look at is the amount of players that have left Sturt to another SANFL club recently, how many of those have gone on to become prominent players, THEN, you want to have a look at how many players have come to Sturt recently, stayed and become better players.
So AK, going on that, once you've done the research, (apart from the paper gossip), try to determine the thinking of the players coming to the club based on recent history and any reasons why they want to leave their present/recent club.
here's a list for you going back when we WERE monetarily ******.
Atkinson, Squire, Threadgold, Conway, Bratton, McGlone, Cubillo, Gum, Vassal, Johncock are just off the top of my head, all have stayed for a good amount of time, become better players/medalists/captains and clubmen, none of these have walked out, only retired.



I acutally think it's great other teams are getting out there and recruiting good on sturt for being pro active BUT is think his basing the $75 000 on what Kris Grant said about the $25000 being the standard transfer fee for a league regular footballer which all them three were. Comparing it to Central is a slight bit different in that we haven't came out and said we are short of cash or in financial danger or anything as such.

Whufc, that's fair enough, 24 months ago we were definately in trouble from what I know, 12 months ago we were still in trouble but this 2 months ago crap? The base rate for an out of contract SANFL player is $25k, so from what i understand this is relevent to Giles and Hinge. As I understand this is not relevent to Hassan, which, as I am lead to believe is substantially less. So the $75k + is absolutely questionable and drawing straws= plucking bum hairs.
So, let's get back to earnings and loss' for the club. IF, in the last 12-24 months we've been running at a loss, but thru re-management we've made a turn around in profits and therefore can project these profits into the next 12 months then this is what the club has to work with. But hey I'm just a carpenter, but I still know what I can earn, where my $ situation was 12 months ago and from the previous year's earnings what I can realistically expect for the next year.
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