INS and OUTS for 2010

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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Big Phil » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:55 pm

am Bays wrote:
CoverKing wrote:
Big Phil wrote:After being delisted by the Power, as a rookie, sadly Matthew Martin is quitting SANFL and looks likely to play at his junior club Flagstaff Hill.

Obviously being delisted from an AFL list really hurt the lad and now he lost to SANFL, a real shame as he was a talented strapping young lad.

Also, Jeremy Rowe, who I think was going to quit SANFL as well, has decided to stay on with the Bloods in 2010 so good news there for Westies.

Will update the INS and OUTS list shortly, inclusing this morning's Mini Draft additions...


Thanks BP but i mentioned this on page 40 of this thread ;)

CoverKing wrote:Here's one for ya guys!

Matthew Martin, from a pretty reliable source, has walked out of Westies to go back and play for his junior club in Flagstaff Hill.

Has not taken the delisting from the Power well, and wants to simply enjoy his footy with some mates! No passion left in him! Big waste for mine, but being delisted would be extremely hard to take as a 19 yr old. Hopefully Westies can talk him out of it!


What?? Big note rushing in to post old news or not acknowledging the original source??? Who'd a thunk it...




Sorry Coverking, didn't mean to steal your thunder mate ;)

I was only told this by a Westies official late last week and should have gone back through the posts to check it hadn't already been mentioned, my bad :oops:

I'm so happy that once again I can be on the receiving end of another quality post by am Bays, that's certainly made my day !! :roll:
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Wedgie » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:18 pm

Jimmy wrote:Image


Damn, that's funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Voice » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:20 pm

UK Fan wrote:WHat did you mean by that Jimmy. :lol: :lol:

You can take the boy out of Elizabeth. But youll never take the Elizabeth out of the boy.

Every time someone says something you think is dumb, you trot out that tripe. So you're admitting people in Elizabeth are stupid, UK?
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby topsywaldron » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:58 pm

Voice wrote:
UK Fan wrote:WHat did you mean by that Jimmy. :lol: :lol:

You can take the boy out of Elizabeth. But youll never take the Elizabeth out of the boy.

Every time someone says something you think is dumb, you trot out that tripe. So you're admitting people in Elizabeth are stupid, UK?


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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby lachlan » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:01 pm

Voice.

I agree with you about Sturt, Too Old & Too Slow
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Barto » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:54 pm

lachlan wrote:Voice.

I agree with you about Sturt, Too Old & Too Slow



Jeez I hope so. I'm old enough to remember what happened the last time they said that about us.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby lachlan » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:50 pm

Barto,
I'm just agreeing with Voice about the fact that sturt are too old & too slow.

At least with all the tranfer fees you have paid out it means that the clubs cash flow is very strong hence you will now be able to pay all your players on time
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby The Apostle » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:38 pm

I still think it's "funny" that Sturt were crying poor back in October :(( and now suddenly seem to have their own pot of gold. :-?

Sturt back in October...

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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:43 am

UK Fan wrote:WHat did you mean by that Jimmy. :lol: :lol:


pretty clear I would have thought :lol: :shock:
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:48 am

lachlan wrote:Barto,
I'm just agreeing with Voice about the fact that sturt are too old & too slow.

At least with all the tranfer fees you have paid out it means that the clubs cash flow is very strong hence you will now be able to pay all your players on time


too old? too slow?

i actually think we are pretty young...only nelson would be over 30 i think. sheedy and chambo would be 29.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:48 am

The Apostle AK wrote:I still think it's "funny" that Sturt were crying poor back in October :(( and now suddenly seem to have their own pot of gold. :-?

Sturt back in October...

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what do you base that on AK?
What's the "pot of gold" crap?
How do you think we're paying any more than any other club?
Why do you go back to October?
Why do you sully the great man by choosing his picture as your avatar and make such stupid remarks.
Don't act like a fool. Starting to sound like port supporters in an age gone by.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:49 am

The Apostle AK wrote:I still think it's "funny" that Sturt were crying poor back in October :(( and now suddenly seem to have their own pot of gold. :-?


good business plans AK!

i cant remember the club crying poor, just ppl reporting on our situation.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:50 am

Sheik Yerbouti wrote:You want a fail?

http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19015


He has the worst approval rating of any president at this time of one's term in the history of US presidents. But this is for another topic ;)

back on track of ins and outs now :)
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:46 am

Jimmy wrote:
i cant remember the club crying poor, just ppl reporting on our situation.


This seems to have been going on this site this pre-season.If its not sturt its the eagles not having money for transfer fees!!
And seeing none of us have seen any of the clubs finances its probably just a baited hook thrown out to get bite by some bored posters ;)
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Dutchy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:20 am

Jimmy wrote:
The Apostle AK wrote:I still think it's "funny" that Sturt were crying poor back in October :(( and now suddenly seem to have their own pot of gold. :-?


good business plans AK!

i cant remember the club crying poor, just ppl reporting on our situation.


Talking to a long time Sturt man during the week, he said he went to the AGM last year and the talk of the financial situation was very dire, and here we are 12 months later and things are looking very positive...at the end of the say I think its great they have turned it around, it has just suprised me how quick it has been
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Wedgie » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:34 am

Mickyj wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
i cant remember the club crying poor, just ppl reporting on our situation.


This seems to have been going on this site this pre-season.If its not sturt its the eagles not having money for transfer fees!!
And seeing none of us have seen any of the clubs finances its probably just a baited hook thrown out to get bite by some bored posters ;)


Must admit I haen't seen or heard anything about the Eagles on here, thought they were fairly healthy.
Club's finances are pretty well known by most, its not like they're a secret as they're reported fairly publicly every year. I would say most of us have seen club's finances, definately not "none".
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Mickyj » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:01 am

Wedgie wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
i cant remember the club crying poor, just ppl reporting on our situation.


This seems to have been going on this site this pre-season.If its not sturt its the eagles not having money for transfer fees!!
And seeing none of us have seen any of the clubs finances its probably just a baited hook thrown out to get bite by some bored posters ;)


Must admit I haen't seen or heard anything about the Eagles on here, thought they were fairly healthy.
Club's finances are pretty well known by most, its not like they're a secret as they're reported fairly publicly every year. I would say most of us have seen club's finances, definately not "none".


Perhaps u should read a post by the sleeping giant he was trying to say Eagles had transfer fee problems .But no one answered him ;)
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24829&p=870573#p870573
Well I haven't seen any club finances but have heard the Eagles have improved greatly .
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Wedgie » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:33 am

Mickyj wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Mickyj wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
i cant remember the club crying poor, just ppl reporting on our situation.


This seems to have been going on this site this pre-season.If its not sturt its the eagles not having money for transfer fees!!
And seeing none of us have seen any of the clubs finances its probably just a baited hook thrown out to get bite by some bored posters ;)


Must admit I haen't seen or heard anything about the Eagles on here, thought they were fairly healthy.
Club's finances are pretty well known by most, its not like they're a secret as they're reported fairly publicly every year. I would say most of us have seen club's finances, definately not "none".


Perhaps u should read a post by the sleeping giant he was trying to say Eagles had transfer fee problems .But no one answered him ;)
http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 73#p870573
Well I haven't seen any club finances but have heard the Eagles have improved greatly .


1 poster making an ill informed comment hardly speaks for the entire site like you mentioned in your post.
I personally thought the Eagles had been doing OK since opening their establishment on Port Rd a few years back.
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby The Apostle » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:04 am

I hate it when you've logged into this website and typed up a long post and click submit and then it asks you to re-log in. :evil: :evil: :evil:

Anyway, I base what i'm saying on what i've heard on the grapevine (from various sources) and what i've read in the Advertiser. I've heard for the last year or so that Sturt was very financially restrained because their off-field enterprises (Castle Tavern, Bazaar) weren't doing too well. I have heard of them being compared to North Adelaides predicament a few years back (as far as not having any cash).

Here's an article from Grand Final week from the Advertiser:

Adelaides Favourite Birdcage Liner wrote:Sturt's so grand on smell of an oily rag

WARREN PARTLAND

October 02, 2009 12:00am

MELINDA Benson had a couple of simple questions for husband Matthew when he was offered the chief executive role at Sturt late in 1995.

The pair had been residing in Victoria for five years at the time and her queries were fair.

"How is the club going?" she asked.

"Technically they are insolvent," he responded.

"How did they go last season?" she asked.

"Didn't win a game," he said.

It just happened that two weeks after the conversation the couple was watching a sports show on television and on came the infamous head-butting incident involving Phil Carman.

"And that is Sturt's senior coach," Matthew informed his wife.

Obviously Matthew enjoys a challenge because he accepted the job during the club's darkest hour.

"My poor wife came back to Adelaide wondering what the hell we have got ourselves into - it was quite daunting," Benson said.

"The good thing about footy is the passion around clubs, the selfless passion.

"We were lucky as a club to have a massive supporter base to tap into."

In August 1996 the club organised a legends game at Unley. Almost 5000 fans turned up, setting the wheels in motion for the Double Blues to return to their spiritual home rather than playing at Adelaide Oval.

Being a part of the driving force to return to Unley pleased Benson, who describes 1996-97 as two exciting years with the club finding form on the field. Sturt qualified for the 1998 grand final - losing to the Port Adelaide Magpies by nine points - when Benson had left the club to work with the South Australian Jockey Club.

"I always felt empty leaving Sturt and it did not sit well," he said. "That helped me make the decision to come back (this year).

"We were shaky financially back then. But sponsorship, fundraising and membership, the things which make a club a club, is something we have done well.

"In the SANFL, Port Adelaide and Sturt are seen as the two clubs doing it toughest (financially). They are the two clubs who do the best job with sponsorship and fundraising."

It's ironic that Sturt, positioned in an area regarded as being affluent, has been challenged financially for years while Sunday's grand final opponent, Central District, is a healthy organisation engulfed in blue-collar surrounds. Not that Benson is complaining.

When the Double Blues travelled to Waikerie for a pre-season camp this year, the players pitched in $20 each to pay for the bus. That is the sort of commitment which Benson claims give the club strength of character.

Sturt has a financial involvement with Castle Tavern as well as its gaming and restaurant establishment, Barzaar, on Unley Rd.

The club is confident of announcing a profit this season and is developing plans for a new gymnasium.

"We would love to have millions of dollars rolling in but have to focus on the other sides of the club which make us better," Benson said. "That certainly improves the culture of the place and there is never an assumption that something will be put on a silver plate."

Being in a position to predict a small profit is the bottom line on "hard work" and being tough on costs, Benson said. He added there had been an aggressive look at cost cutting this year.

As for Central District's financial situation compared to that on Oxford Terrace, Benson prefers to laud the Bulldogs' efforts rather than have a jealous outlook.

"That is life - there is always someone better off," Benson said. "If we start sitting in the corner wanting to eat worms because somebody has better facilities than us, then we are gone.

"There is a big part of the club which is very proud about the fact we do have modest facilities and largely do it on the smell of an oily rag but playing in Sunday's grand final against a club which apparently has everything is very satisfying.

"Congratulations to Central, they have a fantastic business model and that is excellent. I don't begrudge them that and there is no jealousy there.

"We want every club in the SANFL to be financially stable. Nobody is disgruntled at Sturt because we haven't got that - it just means there is a challenge to make our facilities better over time.

"The flip side of that is our crowds went up eight-and-a-half per cent this year, the turnout of families and kids at our games is just extraordinary and a lot of clubs are envious of the parklands-type atmosphere we have on a Saturday.

"I'm very confident in the club's future and I think it is a very exciting time for Sturt. We have a fantastic group of young players, a mixture of youth and experience.

"Playing in the grand final on Sunday is a massive bonus for the club."

So, they've gone from crying poor 2 months ago to throwing around money left, right and centre (they've paid atleast $75,000 in transfer fees of late).

Must be one hell of a business plan...
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Re: INS and OUTS for 2010

Postby Barto » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:51 am

If you're out of work for a while, suddenly get a job and have started paying the bills it doesn't mean you have a pot of gold.

Funny thing is though, when the money starts coming back in again the tendency is to buy a few things you've been wanting for a while as well.
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