Retirements and Player Movements

[Big Phil]

So would Sturt now have one of the older lists in the comp, esp if Chambo returns?

Not yet

Who would be older?

Maybe the Eagles, just?

I found an old Budget from Round 1 this year in my drawer at work and calculated this based on the oldest half a dozen or so players that will be playing in season 2012, as far as we know:

EAGELS: J.Cicolella, L.Powell, M.McKenzie, L.Jarrad, C.Parry, A.Grocke, B.Greiger = 195 years combined

vs

STURT: J.Sheedy, T.Gum, L.Crane, M.Duldig, J.Plant, B.Kane, L.Panozzo = 192* years combined

(*not including Chambers)

[CK]

Will be interesting to see in what positional role Luke Panozzo is used by the Double Blues?

Obviously finished out his career in the 2's with the Bays and was playing some good football as a small forward as he had done in a pinch hitting role for Glenelg at senior level, briefly, in the past.

Agree

Yeah, I actually think he is very dangerous as a small forward as he has good finishing skills and pace to burn.

Tallish small forward at 6"1, not really noted as a goalkicker as a rule either.

On the question of older lists, without doing all the calculations, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually North Adelaide that would go close on average age of the squad.

[Coach Bombay]

From the Sturt FC

"The Sturt Football Club is very pleased to announce the signing of two experienced SANFL players, Ben Kane and Luke Panozzo.

Both Ben and Luke are highly skilled players who will compliment and strengthen our league list and provide additional leadership to our young and developing playingd.

We welcome both Ben and Luke to the club and look forward to their contribution to our success in 2012.

Ben and Luke join other recent additions to the squad including Paul Cahill, a Sturt junior recruited from St Kilda, Brendan Littler, from Norwood and Daniel Boyle from Wangaratta.

The club's focus has been on identifying players with high skill levels, competitiveness and superior leadership qualities. We feel that all six new players meet these criteria.

The playing group under new Coach Seamus Maloney has been training hard and enthusiastically in preparation for the 2012 season. They are determined to play finals football next year.

If you have not already done so, renew membership now and continue your support as we strive to get back into Premiership contention"

Hey mate, where did you get this from. Was just forwarding the news to a few mates and was wondering the source? I think Luke will be a good addition, was my favourite player, always up for a chat.

[Big Phil]

(Panozzo) Tallish small forward at 6"1, not really noted as a goalkicker as a rule either.

Yeah, 6"1 is probably that in between height - not key forward, not small either (hence your 'tallish small' comment) - that's why I mentioned when he has gone up forward in a pinch hitting role, I think he has done alright and that is possibly a more permanent role the Double Blues could perhaps look to use him in?

In the times I've seen Panozzo play forward for the Bays, he has played more in that 'nippy, qucik off the mark, lead up and crumbing small forward' - as opposed to the 'plonk in the goal square and kick it on his head' forward !!!

[Dutchy]

From the Sturt FC

"The Sturt Football Club is very pleased to announce the signing of two experienced SANFL players, Ben Kane and Luke Panozzo.

Both Ben and Luke are highly skilled players who will compliment and strengthen our league list and provide additional leadership to our young and developing playingd.

We welcome both Ben and Luke to the club and look forward to their contribution to our success in 2012.

Ben and Luke join other recent additions to the squad including Paul Cahill, a Sturt junior recruited from St Kilda, Brendan Littler, from Norwood and Daniel Boyle from Wangaratta.

The club's focus has been on identifying players with high skill levels, competitiveness and superior leadership qualities. We feel that all six new players meet these criteria.

The playing group under new Coach Seamus Maloney has been training hard and enthusiastically in preparation for the 2012 season. They are determined to play finals football next year.

If you have not already done so, renew membership now and continue your support as we strive to get back into Premiership contention"

Hey mate, where did you get this from. Was just forwarding the news to a few mates and was wondering the source? I think Luke will be a good addition, was my favourite player, always up for a chat.

Was sent to Sturt members via email, some chose to forward onto Glenelg mates

[CUTTERMAN]

Yep, official SFC members email.

[Barto]

CDFC have beat NFC for the signature of an ex AFL CHB/CHF

Initials B.M by any chance?
Cheers

Nope, but according to Barto on DB.org the intials are MR

I said what now?

[Big Phil]

From the SANFL web site:

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/1612/

[Coach Bombay]

Yep, official SFC members email.

Thanks mate. Well done. Wish we still had both of them.

[Big Phil]

[On the question of older lists, without doing all the calculations, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually North Adelaide that would go close on average age of the squad.

Off track I know, but...

Because it is late Friday afternoon AND it is quiet in the office AND I'm killing time until 5pm AND as I mentioned earlier, I found a Budget from Round 1 of season 2010, I thought I would do some quick calculations myself:

* This list shows the avergae age for each club based purely on the total age count divided by number of players listed in the Budget for Round 1 (Central's based on Round 2 as they had the first up bye) action from the start of the 2010 season.

I know it doesn't take into consideration injured players who didn't play, AFL players not playing, players that didn't actually play in Round 1, Retirements, Recruits etc etc but it is all that I could work from for the time being.

1. West - 598 total age / 25 players listed = 23.92 average age
2. Nw'd - 568 total age / 24 players listed = 23.67 average age
3. Strt - 539 total age / 23 players listed = 23.43 average age
4. Eags - 559 total age / 24 players listed = 23.29 average age
5. Port - 512 total age / 22 players listed = 23.27 average age
6. Dogs - 558 total age / 24 players listed = 23.25 average age
7. Gl'ng - 477 total age / 21 players listed = 22.71 average age
8. Panf - 474 total age / 22 players listed = 21.55 average age
9. N'rth - 492 total age / 22 players listed = 21.39 average age

[Coach Bombay]

[On the question of older lists, without doing all the calculations, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually North Adelaide that would go close on average age of the squad.

Off track I know, but...

Because it is late Friday afternoon AND it is quiet in the office AND I'm killing time until 5pm AND as I mentioned earlier, I found a Budget from Round 1 of season 2010, I thought I would do some quick calculations myself:

* This list shows the avergae age for each club based purely on the total age count divided by number of players listed in the Budget for Round 1 (Central's based on Round 2 as they had the first up bye) action from the start of the 2010 season.

I know it doesn't take into consideration injured players who didn't play, AFL players not playing, players that didn't actually play in Round 1, Retirements, Recruits etc etc but it is all that I could work from for the time being.

1. West - 598 total age / 25 players listed = 23.92 average age
2. Nw'd - 568 total age / 24 players listed = 23.67 average age
3. Strt - 539 total age / 23 players listed = 23.43 average age
4. Eags - 559 total age / 24 players listed = 23.29 average age
5. Port - 512 total age / 22 players listed = 23.27 average age
6. Dogs - 558 total age / 24 players listed = 23.25 average age
7. Gl'ng - 477 total age / 21 players listed = 22.71 average age
8. Panf - 474 total age / 22 players listed = 21.55 average age
9. N'rth - 492 total age / 22 players listed = 21.39 average age

Didn't realize glenelg had 21 players lol

[CK]

Good work, BP .

Don't forget, however, that by the end of 2011, North had Brett Backwell (31), Michael Handby (28, rising 29), Todd Miles (turning 27) all as additions to that side, and they are just off the top of my head. Not sure how much that would tweak the overall figures. For the exercise, I'm assuming Daniel Motlop will not return to North, but will take up a role in the River Murray League, as has been touted.

For Norwood, their squad, for example, would drop slightly with James Gallagher (31) retiring, along with a couple of others.

That may not tweak things too much, but might be worth looking at, to see where, as the squads sit right now, the lists are all at.

[robranisgod]

Good work, BP .

Don't forget, however, that by the end of 2011, North had Brett Backwell (31), Michael Handby (28, rising 29), Todd Miles (turning 27) all as additions to that side, and they are just off the top of my head. Not sure how much that would tweak the overall figures.

For Norwood, their squad, for example, would drop slightly with James Gallagher (31) retiring, along with a couple of others.

That may not tweak things too much, but might be worth looking at, to see where, as the squads sit right now, the lists are all at.

On the other hand by the end of 2011 North had Nick Amato and Sam Mayes both at 16 and a number of other teenagers in the side. I think that would re-tweak the figures fairly quickly. Furthermore if the three you quote (Backwell, Handby and MIles) were replacing three players of the average age, that would only raise North's average by about a year in total.

[am Bays]

2010 Sturt recruit one Bays player, drop four spots and finish 5th
2011 Sturt recruit one Bays player (admitadly via Angaston) drop four spots and finish 9th
2012 Sturt recruit TWO Bays players, I feel confident in predicting Sturt will finish eighth in Div 1 Ammos....

You do the math, I know I have.

[Barto]

2010 Sturt recruit one Bays player, drop four spots and finish 5th
2011 Sturt recruit one Bays player (admitadly via Angaston) drop four spots and finish 9th
2012 Sturt recruit TWO Bays players, I feel confident in predicting Sturt will finish eighth in Div 1 Ammos....

You do the math, I know I have.

Where'd the 2010 and 2011 players finish in the Bay's B&F?

[MagareyLegend]

From the Sturt FC

"The Sturt Football Club is very pleased to announce the signing of two experienced SANFL players, Ben Kane and Luke Panozzo.

Both Ben and Luke are highly skilled players who will compliment and strengthen our league list and provide additional leadership to our young and developing playingd.

We welcome both Ben and Luke to the club and look forward to their contribution to our success in 2012.

Ben and Luke join other recent additions to the squad including Paul Cahill, a Sturt junior recruited from St Kilda, Brendan Littler, from Norwood and Daniel Boyle from Wangaratta.

The club's focus has been on identifying players with high skill levels, competitiveness and superior leadership qualities. We feel that all six new players meet these criteria.

The playing group under new Coach Seamus Maloney has been training hard and enthusiastically in preparation for the 2012 season. They are determined to play finals football next year.

If you have not already done so, renew membership now and continue your support as we strive to get back into Premiership contention"

1. "six new players" and the email only mentions five
2. Paul Cahill "superior leadership qualities" um I don't think so. My understanding is he hasn't even fronted for training yet
3. "They are determined to play finals football next year." - So they weren't this year? I wonder if the other eight clubs are equally determined

[Jimmy]

From the Sturt FC

"The Sturt Football Club is very pleased to announce the signing of two experienced SANFL players, Ben Kane and Luke Panozzo.

Both Ben and Luke are highly skilled players who will compliment and strengthen our league list and provide additional leadership to our young and developing playingd.

We welcome both Ben and Luke to the club and look forward to their contribution to our success in 2012.

Ben and Luke join other recent additions to the squad including Paul Cahill, a Sturt junior recruited from St Kilda, Brendan Littler, from Norwood and Daniel Boyle from Wangaratta.

The club's focus has been on identifying players with high skill levels, competitiveness and superior leadership qualities. We feel that all six new players meet these criteria.

The playing group under new Coach Seamus Maloney has been training hard and enthusiastically in preparation for the 2012 season. They are determined to play finals football next year.

If you have not already done so, renew membership now and continue your support as we strive to get back into Premiership contention"

1. "six new players" and the email only mentions five
2. Paul Cahill "superior leadership qualities" um I don't think so. My understanding is he hasn't even fronted for training yet
3. "They are determined to play finals football next year." - So they weren't this year? I wonder if the other eight clubs are equally determined

I think read on db.org that a poster had seen cahill at training....Also, the 6th player would be bewick from Perth although he is yet to sign.

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

I'm not expecting to see Panoz out on the oval til half way thru the season seeing as he had post GF surgery on a shoulder.
Has also become a Dad recently. So looks like he will have some time available to spend bonding with his baby before refocussing on gaining a league spot.

[SDK]

Topsy I think you mean Aaron Kite .... not Aaron Keating. The latter was a premiership player who came from South.

[Bluedemon]

2010 Sturt recruit one Bays player, drop four spots and finish 5th
2011 Sturt recruit one Bays player (admitadly via Angaston) drop four spots and finish 9th
2012 Sturt recruit TWO Bays players, I feel confident in predicting Sturt will finish eighth in Div 1 Ammos....

You do the math, I know I have.

sounds like sour grapes am bays. Sturt were always going to struggle this year as we had lost lots of experienced players, recruiting a bays player has nothing to do with it.