Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby whufc » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:08 am

While it may have only been an administration error the longer it goes the more likely that it may have been a 'deliberate' adminstration error and may have involved more than one player
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby fester69 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:32 am

whufc wrote:While it may have only been an administration error the longer it goes the more likely that it may have been a 'deliberate' adminstration error and may have involved more than one player


Old news. Not deliberate and I've already posted earlier it involved 3 players, the SANFL just picky over the wording of 1.
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby dedja » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:42 am

gonna get a big whack though ...
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:50 am

fester69 wrote:
whufc wrote:While it may have only been an administration error the longer it goes the more likely that it may have been a 'deliberate' adminstration error and may have involved more than one player


Old news. Not deliberate and I've already posted earlier it involved 3 players, the SANFL just picky over the wording of 1.

Reading between the lines, I'm guessing 3 players injured and unavailable being paid some sort of marketing payment, which wasn't included in the salary cap?
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby Jim05 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:03 pm

dedja wrote:gonna get a big whack though ...

Yep going to cop a big whack with a wet lettuce leaf.
Move along, nothing to see here ;)
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby SANFLnut » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:56 pm

Multiple players involved.
Nothing to do with marketing component except that when Norwood were required to submit a copy of the original contract someone at Norwood accidentally sent through the SANFL approved contract as well as the "brown paper bag" version of the players' contracts.
Delay involves SANFL trying to determine how widespread this practice is at Norwood and gathering financial details of actual payments to players.
The only "administrative error" was accidentally sending SANFL copies of both contracts. Deliberate attempt by Norwood to mislead SANFL.
This should attract a massive penalty.
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby JK » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:24 pm

SANFLnut wrote:Multiple players involved.
Nothing to do with marketing component except that when Norwood were required to submit a copy of the original contract someone at Norwood accidentally sent through the SANFL approved contract as well as the "brown paper bag" version of the players' contracts.
Delay involves SANFL trying to determine how widespread this practice is at Norwood and gathering financial details of actual payments to players.
The only "administrative error" was accidentally sending SANFL copies of both contracts. Deliberate attempt by Norwood to mislead SANFL.
This should attract a massive penalty.


That of course, would be the Sanfl's version of events .. The "Brown Paper Bag" contract as you refer to it, from our perspective is not that at all, and the arrangements that were in place were for employment based remuneration.

And if the SANFL had copies of "both contracts", how is that an attempt to mislead?

And of course if the SANFL took the non-cap component of remuneration and then applied it to the Total Player Payments, guess what? Yes, STILL UNDER!!

At the end of the day, If the SANFL decide they don't want to believe us there isn't much we can do about it is there .. Pity the next club that's in the firing line.
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby cennals05 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:14 pm

$60000 fine apparently. Rowey and Cornsey said some other stuff about it but I tuned out.
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby DOC » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:59 pm

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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby Bunton » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:33 am

JK wrote:
Bunton wrote:there is clearly a bit going on with this - if simple admin error it would have been addressed long ago when West and Port were addressed. As I've been advising for months, I think you'll find the admin error was that the "other" contract was accidently sent to the SANFL by mistake - bit like when south got caught red-handed around 2005 - except it was south's first time and since then they have stiffened the penalties. They could be in serious strife. In fairness Banger Baynes may not have even be on top of the issue (although should be), but the footy manager may soon loose that swagger he packs on game days


Mate you've had a few pot shots at the Footy Manager, whats your problem with him?


He's incompetent. Now he's cost the club $110k, surely he's looking for a new job? CEO must also be under some pressure after embarrassment of threatening to sue ditts and swearing to members at agm that they had done nothing wrong, yet club ended up pleading guilty.
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Re: West and Port breach Salary Cap

Postby Bunton » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:17 am

therisingblues wrote:
Bunton wrote:
CENTURION wrote:hmmm....interesting rumblings about town....announcement in the new year.....Norwood have breached too but big cover-up....stay tuned.


FACT! think you might...... may have ...... :oops:

Pretty hard hitting facts there Bunton.


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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby Bunton » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:22 am

Go Legs wrote:
holden78 wrote:The longer the Norwood issue goes unaddressed makes me think there is plenty there and the SANFL want to go through every lead.
Surely it will be all sorted though by round 1 for the sake of all!
Norwood are probably as helpful as tits on a bull at this stage :)


At the AGM last night re-confirmed by CEO as part of his speech, that we have no, repeat no; salary cap issues from the 2012 season

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Next question will be if he can remain CEO after this? Assume it is a no-brained that the Footy manager is gone
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby JK » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:07 am

Bunton wrote:
JK wrote:
Bunton wrote:there is clearly a bit going on with this - if simple admin error it would have been addressed long ago when West and Port were addressed. As I've been advising for months, I think you'll find the admin error was that the "other" contract was accidently sent to the SANFL by mistake - bit like when south got caught red-handed around 2005 - except it was south's first time and since then they have stiffened the penalties. They could be in serious strife. In fairness Banger Baynes may not have even be on top of the issue (although should be), but the footy manager may soon loose that swagger he packs on game days


Mate you've had a few pot shots at the Footy Manager, whats your problem with him?


He's incompetent. Now he's cost the club $110k, surely he's looking for a new job? CEO must also be under some pressure after embarrassment of threatening to sue ditts and swearing to members at agm that they had done nothing wrong, yet club ended up pleading guilty.


Lol sometimes you almost start to sound as if you know stuff, but then let yourself down.

Batsanis and Cachia were pretty decent recruits last year that helped toward a premiership, so I guess what you call incompetent we call successful, probably says a bit about our clubs.
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby Bunton » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:02 am

Not that hard to be a genius when you have on open cheque book. Lets see what the guru brings in now!
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby JK » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:11 am

Bunton wrote:Not that hard to be a genius when you have on open cheque book. Lets see what the guru brings in now!


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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby SANFLnut » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:33 am

Have the SANFL said that Norwood did not go over total player payment cap or are posters on here taking Norwood's "word" for it?
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby Fricky » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:40 am

SANFLnut wrote:Have the SANFL said that Norwood did not go over total player payment cap or are posters on here taking Norwood's "word" for it?


The SANFL did come our and say this a few weeks back. Haven't heard if theyve changed their minds though
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby fester69 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:12 am

Bunton wrote:
Go Legs wrote:
holden78 wrote:The longer the Norwood issue goes unaddressed makes me think there is plenty there and the SANFL want to go through every lead.
Surely it will be all sorted though by round 1 for the sake of all!
Norwood are probably as helpful as tits on a bull at this stage :)


At the AGM last night re-confirmed by CEO as part of his speech, that we have no, repeat no; salary cap issues from the 2012 season

:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

Next question will be if he can remain CEO after this? Assume it is a no-brained that the Footy manager is gone


I have attended every AGM for 25 years and this was not said by the CEO. Fact.
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby Bunton » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:21 am

Go legs met have been at a differant agm
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Re: Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

Postby CENTURION » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:24 am

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