Rnd 6 - ANZAC Day - Eagles v Central POST GAME DISCUSSIONS

[diceman]

I have to agree with some of the posters regarding crap attendences for Central and the wiggles. If they haven`t built up decent crowd bases by now they never will!

[Squawk]

The Anzac day game is played between the Grand Finalists of the previous year
Nothing wrong with that
Teams earn the right to play on Anzac Day
Should never be an annual PA V NW thingamajib

I get pissed off seeing CO V ES in the AFL every year
Is this just a money grab ?
Why cant WB play ML every year ?
Anyways, the AFL should do what the SANFL do with the Grand Finalists
Its the fairest system
The criteria should never be which teams draw the biggest crowds

PS
SK to play an Anzac day game in NZ next season ?

Bit differant Mal, No one wanted to play on ANZAC day in the AFL, Essendon and Collingwood had the balls to get it up and running just like South did with Good Friday so they should keep it.

North Melbourne got Friday night football up and going, now they hardly get one while Collingwood and Essendon seem to have a mortgage on it. It's got nothing to do with who started what in the AFL, it's just what gets the most viewers on TV and the biggest crowd. The AFL is selling it's soul to maximise the numbers. Let's hope the SANFL doesn't go down the same path and keeps things fair for all clubs while giving everyone something they can call their own niche.

Norwood was the first club in Australia to start night footy in the 1950s.
Now everyone wants in on it.

Norwood's "problem" is that it is a team that draws crowds, day or night. So the league and many of the clubs all want Norwood playing at times and places that suit everyone else. So as PhilH pointed out, playing Norwood and Port on Anzac Day is seen as a waste of a crowd when you might only get 2,000 more. (4,700 the other week vs 6600 in 2010).

In my book, if you win the flag you earn the right to call yourself Premiers for a year. It's carp to say anyone éarns the right' to play on Anzac Day. They only earn a scheduling preference from the league to play on April 25.

Why not have a GF re-match scheduled in round one?

[Pseudo]

Port/Norwood is a respected rivalry that has evolved for well over 100 years. I rarely hear these supporters sooking and abusing the other club and its players. That is where I see a difference.

Well take off your earmuffs then.

[eaglehaslanded]

Good to see Delta Goodrem here in the crowd, supporting her Brother Trent and hanging around afterwards with the fans, having photos and signing autographs.

Didn't see her. Was she the one in the Central jumper wearing # 11

[eaglehaslanded]

Probably the worst rendition of the national anthem I've ever heard. Not sure it was the singers fault though, think it was more a sound system issue. Anyway on the outer it sounded terrible.

Agree about the national anthem. It was sung well but there was certainly an issue with the sound system.

[Big Phil]

Good to see Delta Goodrem here in the crowd, supporting her Brother Trent and hanging around afterwards with the fans, having photos and signing autographs.

Didn't see her. Was she the one in the Central jumper wearing # 11

Oh, good one, I don't think that has been used before

Nah, number 11 was the one out there in the winning side

[eaglehaslanded]

From what I was told, there was no singer LIVE there, it was a pre-recorded edition and played back through the audio system. If the PA announcer knew Delta was there, could have got her to do a live version, would have been a tad better

Not sure about that Big Phil. I heard her sing at the Logies recently and she was terrible. Almost as bad as Meatloaf at last years's AFL Grand Final.

[eaglehaslanded]

Good to see Delta Goodrem here in the crowd, supporting her Brother Trent and hanging around afterwards with the fans, having photos and signing autographs.

Didn't see her. Was she the one in the Central jumper wearing # 11

Oh, good one, I don't think that has been used before

Nah, number 11 was the one out there in the winning side

Yes mate true he was, it seems like we can only beat you in Grand Finals these days.

[Big Phil]

From what I was told, there was no singer LIVE there, it was a pre-recorded edition and played back through the audio system. If the PA announcer knew Delta was there, could have got her to do a live version, would have been a tad better

Not sure about that Big Phil. I heard her sing at the Logies recently and she was terrible. Almost as bad as Meatloaf at last years's AFL Grand Final.

Would have been better than what was played yesterday, surely?

[eaglehaslanded]

From what I was told, there was no singer LIVE there, it was a pre-recorded edition and played back through the audio system. If the PA announcer knew Delta was there, could have got her to do a live version, would have been a tad better

Not sure about that Big Phil. I heard her sing at the Logies recently and she was terrible. Almost as bad as Meatloaf at last years's AFL Grand Final.

Would have been better than what was played yesterday, surely?

Yes I agee with that.

[Big Phil]

Good to see Delta Goodrem here in the crowd, supporting her Brother Trent and hanging around afterwards with the fans, having photos and signing autographs.

Didn't see her. Was she the one in the Central jumper wearing # 11

Oh, good one, I don't think that has been used before

Nah, number 11 was the one out there in the winning side

Yes mate true he was, it seems like we can only beat you in Grand Finals these days.

Yeah, good point, I agree with that mate, but...

You mentioned Meat Loaf in the other post above - didn't he sing a song titled "2 out of 6 Aint Bad" ??!!

[whufc]

I have to agree with some of the posters regarding crap attendences for Central and the wiggles. If they haven`t built up decent crowd bases by now they never will!

What sometimes i think is forgetton when it comes to Central following is that generally away attendances wont be huge, you have to remember for a majority of Central supporters who live in the Northern suburbs away trips are generally at least 30 minutes away and at times as far as an 1 hour plus to say Noarlunga, then take into account alot of Dogs supporters are also from the barossa and your looking at fairly big travelling distances.

This also takes its toll on Central home games when away supporters are expected to generally travel 30 minutes plus to watch their side in games they generally have loss.

The supporters and interest are there as proven by the fact you can get 35K + to GF's involving the Dogs its just getting them there every week thats the issue.

[cennals05]

Norwood's "problem" is that it is a team that draws crowds, day or night. So the league and many of the clubs all want Norwood playing at times and places that suit everyone else. So as PhilH pointed out, playing Norwood and Port on Anzac Day is seen as a waste of a crowd when you might only get 2,000 more. (4,700 the other week vs 6600 in 2010).

In my book, if you win the flag you earn the right to call yourself Premiers for a year. It's carp to say anyone éarns the right' to play on Anzac Day. They only earn a scheduling preference from the league to play on April 25.

Why not have a GF re-match scheduled in round one?

Funny I didn't see any complaints from you in last years ANZAC day thread about it not being Port you were playing or that it was the Grand Finalists from the previous year. In fact you were very much looking forward to the game...

"Being a grand final re-match and on ANZAC Day, all the ingredients are there for another classic encounter."

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32452&hilit=anzac+day+2011+2011

So which is it? You had no problem with it being the Grand Finalists last year, but this year you have a problem? Make up your mind.

[sjt]

Norwood's "problem" is that it is a team that draws crowds, day or night. So the league and many of the clubs all want Norwood playing at times and places that suit everyone else. So as PhilH pointed out, playing Norwood and Port on Anzac Day is seen as a waste of a crowd when you might only get 2,000 more. (4,700 the other week vs 6600 in 2010).

In my book, if you win the flag you earn the right to call yourself Premiers for a year. It's carp to say anyone éarns the right' to play on Anzac Day. They only earn a scheduling preference from the league to play on April 25.

Why not have a GF re-match scheduled in round one?

Funny I didn't see any complaints from you in last years ANZAC day thread about it not being Port you were playing or that it was the Grand Finalists from the previous year. In fact you were very much looking forward to the game...

"Being a grand final re-match and on ANZAC Day, all the ingredients are there for another classic encounter."

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32452&hilit=anzac+day+2011+2011

So which is it? You had no problem with it being the Grand Finalists last year, but this year you have a problem? Make up your mind.

Damn posters that research I thought Squawks post was a bit "fishy".
Can the league just resolve this by striking a medal for Norwood supporters each year -engraved "but we have the most supporters"?

P.S Well in my book and the SANFL book it's not "carp" at all, it's a known fact.

[Gravel]

I don't accept that 30 minutes travel to get to the venue that your team is playing at is a valid excuse. Some 'soft' AFL supporters travel interstate fortnightly to support their team and State league supporters are also travelling interstate to support their teams in the Foxtel Cup.

[Grahaml]

If you want to reward clubs who get high attendances by playing them on ANZAC day then it should be the teams with the highest minor round attendance that get the gig.

Reality is though, the current format is perfect. All clubs should eventually get a chance to play on the day, we do the best to ensure a good hard contest and any player in league footy can in theory win the medal. I think locking out clubs and players while also pumping up the honour of winning the medal and playing the game is a bit insulting. ANZAC day should never have anything to do with how many paying customers we get, it should be about respecting our servicemen and celebrating the freedom we enjoy now to play a silly game.

[whufc]

I don't accept that 30 minutes travel to get to the venue that your team is playing at is a valid excuse. Some 'soft' AFL supporters travel interstate fortnightly to support their team and State league supporters are also travelling interstate to support their teams in the Foxtel Cup.

I agree but the average punter who has plenty of different options on to how to spend a saturday arvo may use travel distance as their make or break.

I personally have lots of mates who prefer to stay local (northern suburbs) so if Central are playing at Unley and Eastern Park are at home they will just stay down 'this' way and watch the ammos. imho just because you dont go to every game are you less of a supporter than some who does.

[Grahaml]

I don't accept that 30 minutes travel to get to the venue that your team is playing at is a valid excuse. Some 'soft' AFL supporters travel interstate fortnightly to support their team and State league supporters are also travelling interstate to support their teams in the Foxtel Cup.

Maybe you don't accept that, but some people don't want to travel. Unless you've been recently appointed to the position of "decider of what excuses football fans should be allowed to miss games for" then maybe you should toughen up and realise that every club has fans that don't want to travel far. Some only go to games they can walk to! Some don't go if the game is on TV, some if it's raining, some if the team isn't going well. It's been like that for over 100 years and Port Adelaide is no different.

[Booney]

I have to agree with some of the posters regarding crap attendences for Central and the wiggles. If they haven`t built up decent crowd bases by now they never will!

What sometimes i think is forgetton when it comes to Central following is that generally away attendances wont be huge, you have to remember for a majority of Central supporters who live in the Northern suburbs away trips are generally at least 30 minutes away and at times as far as an 1 hour plus to say Noarlunga, then take into account alot of Dogs supporters are also from the barossa and your looking at fairly big travelling distances.
This also takes its toll on Central home games when away supporters are expected to generally travel 30 minutes plus to watch their side in games they generally have loss.
The supporters and interest are there as proven by the fact you can get 35K + to GF's involving the Dogs its just getting them there every week thats the issue.

A full 30 minutes away? WOW!

Mate, anyone who lives in Adelaide can never, ever use traffic or travel distance as any type of excuse. Heading to play South away merely means leaving 30 whole minutes earlier than it would if you were playing West, Sturt or Glenelg away. With the express way Alberton is about 20 minutes from Elizabeth.

It isnt the travel that keeps people away from Elizabeth at Doggies home games. Be it warranted or otherwise it is the reputation Elizabeth has built up over the years. Not the travel time.

[whufc]

I have to agree with some of the posters regarding crap attendences for Central and the wiggles. If they haven`t built up decent crowd bases by now they never will!

What sometimes i think is forgetton when it comes to Central following is that generally away attendances wont be huge, you have to remember for a majority of Central supporters who live in the Northern suburbs away trips are generally at least 30 minutes away and at times as far as an 1 hour plus to say Noarlunga, then take into account alot of Dogs supporters are also from the barossa and your looking at fairly big travelling distances.
This also takes its toll on Central home games when away supporters are expected to generally travel 30 minutes plus to watch their side in games they generally have loss.
The supporters and interest are there as proven by the fact you can get 35K + to GF's involving the Dogs its just getting them there every week thats the issue.

A full 30 minutes away? WOW!

Mate, anyone who lives in Adelaide can never, ever use traffic or travel distance as any type of excuse. Heading to play South away merely means leaving 30 whole minutes earlier than it would if you were playing West, Sturt or Glenelg away. With the express way Alberton is about 20 minutes from Elizabeth.

It isnt the travel that keeps people away from Elizabeth at Doggies home games. Be it warranted or otherwise it is the reputation Elizabeth has built up over the years. Not the travel time.

If it was played at Adelaide Oval we would have got 35K there. Well thats what the Power keeps wanting us to believe.

You honestly dont think there is people that would rather travel 5 minutes up the road than drive 35-45 minutes down main north road or south road or through the city to spend there saturday arvo.