Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

[SDK]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !

[Jim05]

The SANFL they never said Norwood exceeded the salary cap.

Have they actually said they didn't?

Yes
http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/1950/

[whufc]

The SANFL they never said Norwood exceeded the salary cap.

Have they actually said they didn't?

Yes
http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/1950/

Yep they have definatly not exceeded the salary cap.

It fails to mention whether this was just an admin error or a deliberate attempt at breaching the cap as is being suggested by other posters. Thats my question!

[on the rails]

The SANFL they never said Norwood exceeded the salary cap.

Have they actually said they didn't?

Yes
http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/1950/

Yep they have definatly not exceeded the salary cap.

It fails to mention whether this was just an admin error or a deliberate attempt at breaching the cap as is being suggested by other posters. Thats my question!

So they didn't "offically" go over the Slary Cap but still managed to pay players outside the rules! Does it matter how you get caught but cheating is cheating!

[whufc]

Agree, the intention behind the breach will determine whether the fine is $50k or 50 cents.

Will the SANFL come down really harsh even if it is an admin error based on the fact it's the 3rd breach in not alot of years?

[SDK]

when clubs are struggling to stay afloat the SANFL want to send them broke like fining West and forcing them to sell off assetts to pay the xxxxing SANFL because of an admin error. Now they want more blood money from Norwood.
The SANFL is a joke run by fools and a bootlicker to the AFL. No AFL no salary cap !
The SANFL is in existence to SERVE the clubs not run them or send them broke.

[Ian]

when clubs are struggling to stay afloat the SANFL want to send them broke like fining West and forcing them to sell off assetts to pay the xxxxing SANFL because of an admin error. Now they want more blood money from Norwood.
The SANFL is a joke run by fools and a bootlicker to the AFL. No AFL no salary cap !
The SANFL is in existence to SERVE the clubs not run them or send them broke.

so what you are saying is the SANFL should be a toothless tiger that has no power to enforce the rules that are there to try and keep things a bit even and maybe save a club from spending beyond it's means, that make sense.............................

[Dogwatcher]

Two in 20 years, us Pies are doin' ok.

And when was the last one before that?

3 in 40 years ... the Bays are doing alright

We've got more teams to beat than your mob. Although...we do have a similar way of reaching GFs and then blowing them.

[fester69]

Agree, the intention behind the breach will determine whether the fine is $50k or 50 cents.

Will the SANFL come down really harsh even if it is an admin error based on the fact it's the 3rd breach in not alot of years?

When did the second breach occur?

[whufc]

Agree, the intention behind the breach will determine whether the fine is $50k or 50 cents.

Will the SANFL come down really harsh even if it is an admin error based on the fact it's the 3rd breach in not alot of years?

When did the second breach occur?

Not sure but i was correced by JK in another topic when i said this would have been a second offence and was told this would be a third.

[JK]

Agree, the intention behind the breach will determine whether the fine is $50k or 50 cents.

Will the SANFL come down really harsh even if it is an admin error based on the fact it's the 3rd breach in not alot of years?

From what I understand (and clearly this is from a Norwood perspective), IF we have breached, then it is most definitely unintentional and minor in terms of the money involved.

As for this potentially being a 3rd breach, I was once told that us and Westies had been fined a small amount ($5k or less) several years ago, ie mid or early 2000's.

It was news to me at the time I heard it.

[StrayDog]

when clubs are struggling to stay afloat the SANFL want to send them broke like fining West and forcing them to sell off assetts to pay the xxxxing SANFL because of an admin error. Now they want more blood money from Norwood.

Fair point. If clubs break the rules, who really cares, they're only rules. If they can't afford it the fine, don't worry about it.

Forget trying to enforce administrative discipline among the individual clubs. Pfft. Who do they think they are, a controlling body or something?

[PhilH]

Looks like SANFL is not alone in State League Salary Cap issues,

Falcons breach salary cap
EXCLUSIVE, John Townsend, The West Australian
March 18, 2013, 5:54


West Perth's bid to rebuild their list over the next two years has been put at risk by a salary cap breach that could see the club face a recruiting ban outside its zones.

As the Falcons celebrated their season-opening victory over East Perth, The West Australian can reveal that the club is being investigated by the WA Football Commission over payments that may have put it $5000 over last season's $217,000 salary cap.

West Perth claimed the breach was an oversight with payments from one match not being included in their annual return.

But extra payments may have been made to West Perth players because of the errant records.

West Perth said the person responsible for the error was no longer employed by the club and that chief executive Gerry O'Dea had discovered the breach and alerted the commission.

Under the WAFL's salary cap rules, a club will receive a mandatory two-year ban on recruiting from outside its metropolitan and country districts if found to have paid more than the cap. A club can be fined up to $25,000 for providing false or misleading salary cap information to the WAFL.

West Perth president Brett Raponi confirmed the investigation, but said it was the result of an accounting error rather than an attempt to rort the salary cap.

"It was a genuine administration error discovered internally by our CEO who brought it to the immediate attention of the WAFC," he said. "It amounts to $5000, so it is at the lighter end of the scale.

"We have had positive discussions with the WAFC to ensure internal mechanisms are in place to ensure this is not repeated."

A commission spokesman confirmed West Perth had triggered the investigation but did not know when it would be completed.

"The football affairs committee is investigating the matter and will advise a result on determination," the spokesman said.

No club has received a salary cap recruiting ban, though Swan Districts were at risk last season until the WAFL accepted the club's explanation for nine payments that took it $3218 over the 2011 cap.

Peel, Perth and West Perth have been fined over various irregularities in player contracts and a failure to include payments such as superannuation or injury payments in annual returns.

Perth were fined $10,000 over the contract of former captain Chris Bossong, a breach that came to light in 2009 when he attempted to transfer to rival club South Fremantle.

And the Thunder were fined $10,000 in 2011 after the WAFL was provided with confidential payment information from a disgruntled player in the fallout from Brock O'Brien's attempt to move to East Fremantle.

[topsywaldron]

If clubs break the rules, who really cares, they're only rules. If they can't afford it the fine, don't worry about it.

Forget trying to enforce administrative discipline among the individual clubs. Pfft. Who do they think they are, a controlling body or something?

Pretty sure most Centrals fans dismissed your very own salary cap breach with an airy wave of their well manicured hands.

'What's a few DVDs amongst friends etc etc'

[CENTURION]

If clubs break the rules, who really cares, they're only rules. If they can't afford it the fine, don't worry about it.

Forget trying to enforce administrative discipline among the individual clubs. Pfft. Who do they think they are, a controlling body or something?

Pretty sure most Centrals fans dismissed your very own salary cap breach with an airy wave of their well manicured hands.

'What's a few DVDs amongst friends etc etc'

we didn't know about it, it was managed MUCH better than these current affairs.

[am Bays]

If clubs break the rules, who really cares, they're only rules. If they can't afford it the fine, don't worry about it.

Forget trying to enforce administrative discipline among the individual clubs. Pfft. Who do they think they are, a controlling body or something?

Pretty sure most Centrals fans dismissed your very own salary cap breach with an airy wave of their well manicured hands.

'What's a few DVDs amongst friends etc etc'

we didn't know about it, it was managed MUCH better than these current affairs.

Pfft, Dodgy DVDs and Videos have been passed around Elizabeth since Cocky was an egg....

[Squawk]

Interesting....

"the WAFL accepted the club's explanation for nine payments that took it $3218 over the 2011 cap".

[Bunton]

Lots more to come on the Norwood front. Have had it confirmed by an impeccable source that Norwood have submitted several deliberately false contracts to the SANFL. The story that Norwood are trying to spin about Mcguinness' adjustment being lodged incorrectly is just a smokescreen to try and explain it away.

Expect book to be thrown at them as it is not their first breach in recent times. Unfortunate for SANFL as it leaves them open to criticism for having a tainted premier.

you been speaking the the guy I spoke to in November?

[JK]

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[Dogwatcher]

Everyone broke the salary cap, or infringed with incorrect documentation?