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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:12 am
by MW
Dutchy wrote:“The SANFL competition is particularly strong and the evenness provides for great competition for all participating teams week-in and week- out. ”

Yep, Westies just had their first win for 364 days, pretty even comp there :lol: :lol:


Surely you are not blaming the Crows for Westies demise?

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:14 am
by Dutchy
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Part of that is true, but there needs to be greater incentive for Div 1 Ammo's and top country players to play SANFL, my point is there are plenty that have the skill and ability to play the level, there is not a lack on talent out there to have a robust strong top quality 2nd tier comp that is not reliant on 2 AFL teams. Keeping them at SANFL level is the key.

Conversely there are plenty of SANFL league players that come back to grassroots footy and struggle, that convinces me the gap is not that great.


Incentive = $$'s. From where?


Not all incentive is dollar based, make it a competition that these players want to be involved in, currently it's not that.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:26 am
by MW
Dutchy wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Part of that is true, but there needs to be greater incentive for Div 1 Ammo's and top country players to play SANFL, my point is there are plenty that have the skill and ability to play the level, there is not a lack on talent out there to have a robust strong top quality 2nd tier comp that is not reliant on 2 AFL teams. Keeping them at SANFL level is the key.

Conversely there are plenty of SANFL league players that come back to grassroots footy and struggle, that convinces me the gap is not that great.


Incentive = $$'s. From where?


Not all incentive is dollar based, make it a competition that these players want to be involved in, currently it's not that.


Don't you mean fans?

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:34 am
by Dutchy
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:“The SANFL competition is particularly strong and the evenness provides for great competition for all participating teams week-in and week- out. ”

Yep, Westies just had their first win for 364 days, pretty even comp there :lol: :lol:


Surely you are not blaming the Crows for Westies demise?


Not at all, this shows how disconnect the SANFL admin are, spruking the comp is so even, yet West don't have a win for a year?

Maybe if it was the Crows who hadn't won for a year it wouldn't have been said.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:38 am
by Pseudo
MW wrote:ADELAIDE denies it is investigating moving its reserves team into the VFL and says its 15-year commitment to the SANFL is unchanged.

"The coach has the full support and backing of the board..."

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:43 am
by Pseudo
MW wrote:“The SANFL enters into agreements with every intention to honour them."

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:13 am
by Jim05
am Bays wrote:
heater31 wrote:Page 75 of today's fish wrap.....Crows deny costing study into VFL move.


Just like they have denied everything else in this shit sandwich :roll:


Course they've costed it, that's why they're happy with the current arrangement - it's cheaper than playing 20 games in Victoria because there's no way the Vicitorian based VFL clubs want to pay for travel over here - not even for one game a year.

Correct 100%.
There has been interest from a couple of AFL Reserves sides in joining the VFL. Sydney and GWS in particular were investigating it but the Vic clubs are adamant all games must be played in Victoria unless the teams coming in can guarantee to cover travel costs

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:09 pm
by saintal
MW wrote:
Port Adelaide plays home games at Alberton but the Crows agreed to play all their games away, however last year hosted Sturt in one game at Thebarton Oval which drew a crowd of 3123 people.

Other grounds that may be considered for a base include Norwood and Noarlunga which hosted a Crows’ pre-season games. The major tenant at Thebarton Oval is the Adelaide Footy League and its chief executive John Kernahan said he was not aware of any plans by the Crows to bring more games there.


Interesting that the article overlooks the Ravens "home" game this year at Woodville, a game against bitter rivals the Power reserves that drew a meagre 1348 viewers. The Ravens hosting games is a waste of time/money for all concerned.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:24 pm
by another grub
**** the ravens

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:47 pm
by Pseudo
saintal wrote: The Ravens are a waste of time/money for all concerned.

EFA.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:38 pm
by StrayDog
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I said 2 months ago the Crows were looking seriously at this.


And TBH why wouldn't they. Why persist in a league where the majority (except for the bean counters) clearly don't want you there.

If that's the reason, then why push for the current arrangement in the first place?

If being so unloved in the SANFL is any surprise to them to this point, then they've had their heads further up their clackers than anyone has given them credit for.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:13 pm
by matt35
That all seems pretty simple to me. They've had a look at their options, (which they don't actually deny), and they're going nowhere.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:37 pm
by zipzap
Dutchy wrote:
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:“The SANFL competition is particularly strong and the evenness provides for great competition for all participating teams week-in and week- out. ”

Yep, Westies just had their first win for 364 days, pretty even comp there :lol: :lol:


Surely you are not blaming the Crows for Westies demise?


Not at all, this shows how disconnect the SANFL admin are, spruking the comp is so even, yet West don't have a win for a year?

Maybe if it was the Crows who hadn't won for a year it wouldn't have been said.


Bit like Parkinson in the first Budget of the year claiming all teams were starting on an equal playing field :shock:

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:46 am
by Booney
saintal wrote:
MW wrote:
Port Adelaide plays home games at Alberton but the Crows agreed to play all their games away, however last year hosted Sturt in one game at Thebarton Oval which drew a crowd of 3123 people.

Other grounds that may be considered for a base include Norwood and Noarlunga which hosted a Crows’ pre-season games. The major tenant at Thebarton Oval is the Adelaide Footy League and its chief executive John Kernahan said he was not aware of any plans by the Crows to bring more games there.


Interesting that the article overlooks the Ravens "home" game this year at Woodville, a game against bitter rivals the Power reserves that drew a meagre 1348 viewers. The Ravens hosting games is a waste of time/money for all concerned.


Wouldn't be canning 1348 to a home game if I were a Souffie.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:52 am
by MW
StrayDog wrote:
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I said 2 months ago the Crows were looking seriously at this.


And TBH why wouldn't they. Why persist in a league where the majority (except for the bean counters) clearly don't want you there.

If that's the reason, then why push for the current arrangement in the first place?

If being so unloved in the SANFL is any surprise to them to this point, then they've had their heads further up their clackers than anyone has given them credit for.


It was the best option at the time. Far better than allowing pleb coaches at SANFL level to control where and how your development players are playing.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:21 am
by cennals05
MW wrote:
StrayDog wrote:
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I said 2 months ago the Crows were looking seriously at this.


And TBH why wouldn't they. Why persist in a league where the majority (except for the bean counters) clearly don't want you there.

If that's the reason, then why push for the current arrangement in the first place?

If being so unloved in the SANFL is any surprise to them to this point, then they've had their heads further up their clackers than anyone has given them credit for.


It was the best option at the time. Far better than allowing pleb coaches at SANFL level to control where and how your development players are playing.


Yes Alistair Clarkson is such a pleb coach, imagine being a team that got beaten by him. You'd have to be pretty shit.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:24 am
by Jim05
MW wrote:
StrayDog wrote:
MW wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I said 2 months ago the Crows were looking seriously at this.


And TBH why wouldn't they. Why persist in a league where the majority (except for the bean counters) clearly don't want you there.

If that's the reason, then why push for the current arrangement in the first place?

If being so unloved in the SANFL is any surprise to them to this point, then they've had their heads further up their clackers than anyone has given them credit for.


It was the best option at the time. Far better than allowing pleb coaches at SANFL level to control where and how your development players are playing.

Yet Tex and several of the lads who played at Norwood credit their development to the coaches there at the time.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:01 pm
by PhilH
AFLSA .... it's coming ... once WA folds it would not be long.

https://thewest.com.au/news/perth/wa-footy-mulls-afl-tie-for-stadium-cash-ng-b88533851z

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:14 pm
by stan
PhilH wrote:AFLSA .... it's coming ... once WA folds it would not be long.

https://thewest.com.au/news/perth/wa-footy-mulls-afl-tie-for-stadium-cash-ng-b88533851z

Its definitely been interesting in terms of the stadium deal and the controlling interest.

It all comes down to the fact that the WAFL were left put of there version of the SMA.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:57 am
by Hazydog
I found the following quote interesting.... "It would not be changing the governance structure of the football commission but the concept of having a more aligned brand associated with the AFL we think has got some value. We have to work that through with the AFL — how that would work and what it would actually mean.”