sjt wrote:Dutchy wrote:Macca19 wrote:Seniors:
16 Games
142 Disposals
58 Marks
11 Goals
2 times in the best players
Reserves:
7 Games
8 Goals
5 times in the best players
Id agree that he never got the consistent chances that he should have got, but then again, I dont think he made the most of the chances he did get either. Hes still some way from being an AFL player, hes not even a consistent SANFL player yet. Hes better than Deluca was, but not by a lot.
Hardly worth CDFC demanding $25k I would have thought, give the kid some credit, he obviously believes he can still make the AFL and by being told he is 3rd in line at the dogs they arent going to give him the game time he needs to improve
Griffen 12 games, Giles 16 games, plenty of opportunity/game time/chances.
A stat that may suprise is that to this point in time both Giles and Griffin have eached played 39 league games in their respective careers.
Jonathon Giles debuted at senior level in 2007 playing 12 games in that season, then another 11 in 2008 and as mentioned above 16 this season for a total of 39, with about 20 odd reserves games thrown in between.
Jon Griffin debuted in the seniors back in 2005 only playing a couple of league games, spent the majority of 06 in the reserves, only played the 6 games in 2008 and 12 games this year for a tally of 39 also.
Griffin managed to win a Premiership in 2007 against North while Giles was apart of the flags against Glenelg and his probable new side, Sturt. Whilst Giles may be 3rd in line when Griffin is fully fit, Joffa had plenty of opportunities to cement his spot and push for AFL selection throughout the injury interrupted periods of Griffin being out of the team.
Every time Griffin went down with an injury, Giles usually had 1 or 2 weeks to step in, perform and keep his spot making Griffin work his way back through the reserves. Having seen 95% of Giles performances over the last 3 or 4 seasons, I can confidently say he did not take that opportunity as well as he should have and in many ways, only has himself to blame.
Griffin would come back from injury and Roy Laird would bring him straight back into the senior side forcing Giles back to the reserves because his form did not justify keeping him in. Giles managed to get 2 Premiership Medals with the Dogs because in both respective finals series, the Adelaide Crows ruled Griffin out of SANFL action because of injury concerns.
At the end of the day, it is percieved lack of opportunity from Giles' perspective while everyone within Central would know that he was given ample opportunity to prove himself but never took those chances by the scruff of the neck. He needed to force Roy Laird to pick him and at the end of the day he forced Roy to drop him for Griffin because he just didn't have that consistancy at the higher level, so how would he get his game to the level for AFL selection.
The stats speak for themselves in that he has played the same amount of games as Griffin, I would suggest that whilst Giles has 2 premiership medallions and Griffin just 1, Joffa just didn't get as much out of himself as Griffin perhaps did when the time came to perform at league level. For mine as well, there always has been some doubt over Giles disposal by foot, does let him down on too many occasions whereas Griffin is much better skilled I feel.
