AFL Reserves Discussion...

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Have had a trawl through this thread and have not seen it mentioned . Please excuse if it has already been hashed out and I missed it.
Lets say the SANFL gets bent over and the afl clubs get into our comp. Then in two or three years time the **** at afl house conjure up a deal with Foxtell that they could have exclusive rights to televise the afl reserves comp. Another $75 million over three years. Bingo, theres the cash to run a reserves comp. Cows and Poot , the self centered barstards, jump at the opportunity and the SANFL are left to pick up the pieces and rebuild. Dont tell me that isnt a possibility.

On the subject of promotion of our comp, all Clubs should look at a recorded product from all games played, every weekend, available to be downloaded or streamed through the SANFL website. Sponsorship value for dollar with exposure on the net would be a great bonus.If not funded by the SANFL, I reckon a Club by Club production could be possible. Through the NAFC website for instance, Stellar Homes would love it. I for one would DEFINITELY !!!! be watching a replay of the game mid week or whenever to catch what you miss on matchday. What do you reckon?

Every Club would have any number of diehard supporters who would jump at the chance of producing a Club sanctioned product to be shown on the Internet. Hell, the guys who run this site could probably do it . WIN WIN I would have thought.

[marbles]

has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

was thinking just the same thing at about 3 this morning.

Squad members who didnt play yesterday ( including injuries)
Atkins, Brown, Dowdell, Ellis-Yeomen, Graham, Grigg, Hartigan, Jaensch, Johncock, Johnston, Joyce, Kloasen, Lyons, MacKay, Martin, McIntyre, Orval, Osborn, Riley, Shaw, Siggins, Tambling, L.Thompson, Walker, Wright

would these blokes beat Norwood?

[mighty_tiger_79]

has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

was thinking just the same thing at about 3 this morning.

Squad members who didnt play yesterday ( including injuries)
Atkins, Brown, Dowdell, Ellis-Yeomen, Graham, Grigg, Hartigan, Jaensch, Johncock, Johnston, Joyce, Kloasen, Lyons, MacKay, Martin, McIntyre, Orval, Osborn, Riley, Shaw, Siggins, Tambling, L.Thompson, Walker, Wright

would these blokes beat Norwood?

they would go close

[CENTURION]

which ones are injured though. take them out & they don't have a side. and there is the problem, where DO they get the extra players from?

[Jim05]

has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

was thinking just the same thing at about 3 this morning.

Squad members who didnt play yesterday ( including injuries)
Atkins, Brown, Dowdell, Ellis-Yeomen, Graham, Grigg, Hartigan, Jaensch, Johncock, Johnston, Joyce, Kloasen, Lyons, MacKay, Martin, McIntyre, Orval, Osborn, Riley, Shaw, Siggins, Tambling, L.Thompson, Walker, Wright

would these blokes beat Norwood?

Sturt already have half of them and look where they are

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

Scenario:
Adelaide are to play Sunday. Their Reserves are playing Saturday. 2 players are under an injury cloud, and being given every chance to prove their fitness by testing on the morning of the game.

The 2 emergency listed players who may need to cover them aren't allowed to play Saturday 'just in case' they are required.

Meanwhile 2 'Top up' players are used in the local comp game, so wherever the pool of 'Top ups' come from, loses 2 of their players.

If the original AFL listed players get through their test, the 2 AFL emergency players miss out on any game that weekend.

It happened last weekend with McKernan. Didn't play for Adelaide, or Glenelg.

Whomever the Top Up clubs are are going to be in the same situation the SANFL Clubs are now. Not really knowing if their players are going to be required in the Reserves team or the Top Up Club's team. And the AFL Clubs will still have players not getting a game due to the different competitions playing on different days.

An AFL Reserves Team playing on the same day at the same venue, is the only way they can get around this.

[areaman]

We certainly couldn't have change in this state of ours, let's continue to be a laughing stock of a state whether it be in football or in general and keep debating it for another 30 years. All for the reserves in the SANFL, I think over time would improve the standard and exposure of the comp. Die hard SANFL supporters remind me of that guy who thinks he has discovered a good band before anyone else and when they go mainstream and get popular he doesn't like them anymore.

It appears from the overall comments so far that Port fans are very progressive and open to change whereas everyone else is just stuck in the past and doomed to extinction.

How does this change sound to you:

It's been clear for quite a while that the PAFC in its current state is not sustainable. A few suggestions of change that might help:
- Potential relocation to another city to draw bigger and less fickle crowds. Hobart Power sounds like a good idea.
- Rebranding within SA. A name change to something like the Southern Power to attract people put off by the whole insular Port tribal mentality. Calling yourselves the Southern Power will highlight your link to SA - after all you complain a lot about the Crows calling themselvesThe Team For All South Australians. Perhaps you can embrace more of the SA part than the Alberton part of your identity.
- Change of colours to remove the black and white with a more vibrant feel to it.
- Get rid of 1870 off the back of your guernsey and get rid of silly references to history and tradition in that children's nursery rhyme of a club song.

I'm sure you guys can think of a few more ideas that will help Port out.

After all you guys are just so open to the idea of change.

Happy brainstorming.

[Reddeer]

Easy solution SANFL stand up and veto any AFL team in any of our comps.
Then let the crows work out where they might play if it is so important to Sanderson that they have that type of team.

[Barto]

Let them play Port every week.

[LPH]

Would that be called a 'Lowdown' or a 'Godown'?

[whufc]

We certainly couldn't have change in this state of ours, let's continue to be a laughing stock of a state whether it be in football or in general and keep debating it for another 30 years. All for the reserves in the SANFL, I think over time would improve the standard and exposure of the comp. Die hard SANFL supporters remind me of that guy who thinks he has discovered a good band before anyone else and when they go mainstream and get popular he doesn't like them anymore.

It appears from the overall comments so far that Port fans are very progressive and open to change whereas everyone else is just stuck in the past and doomed to extinction.

How does this change sound to you:

It's been clear for quite a while that the PAFC in its current state is not sustainable. A few suggestions of change that might help:
- Potential relocation to another city to draw bigger and less fickle crowds. Hobart Power sounds like a good idea.
- Rebranding within SA. A name change to something like the Southern Power to attract people put off by the whole insular Port tribal mentality. Calling yourselves the Southern Power will highlight your link to SA - after all you complain a lot about the Crows calling themselvesThe Team For All South Australians. Perhaps you can embrace more of the SA part than the Alberton part of your identity.
- Change of colours to remove the black and white with a more vibrant feel to it.
- Get rid of 1870 off the back of your guernsey and get rid of silly references to history and tradition in that children's nursery rhyme of a club song.

I'm sure you guys can think of a few more ideas that will help Port out.

After all you guys are just so open to the idea of change.

Happy brainstorming.

Great post

[Pseudo]

We certainly couldn't have change in this state of ours, let's continue to be a laughing stock of a state whether it be in football or in general and keep debating it for another 30 years. All for the reserves in the SANFL, I think over time would improve the standard and exposure of the comp. Die hard SANFL supporters remind me of that guy who thinks he has discovered a good band before anyone else and when they go mainstream and get popular he doesn't like them anymore.

It appears from the overall comments so far that Port fans are very progressive and open to change whereas everyone else is just stuck in the past and doomed to extinction.

How does this change sound to you:

It's been clear for quite a while that the PAFC in its current state is not sustainable. A few suggestions of change that might help:
- Potential relocation to another city to draw bigger and less fickle crowds. Hobart Power sounds like a good idea.
- Rebranding within SA. A name change to something like the Southern Power to attract people put off by the whole insular Port tribal mentality. Calling yourselves the Southern Power will highlight your link to SA - after all you complain a lot about the Crows calling themselvesThe Team For All South Australians. Perhaps you can embrace more of the SA part than the Alberton part of your identity.
- Change of colours to remove the black and white with a more vibrant feel to it.
- Get rid of 1870 off the back of your guernsey and get rid of silly references to history and tradition in that children's nursery rhyme of a club song.

I'm sure you guys can think of a few more ideas that will help Port out.

After all you guys are just so open to the idea of change.

Happy brainstorming.

[kickinit]

Just a question what media coverage do people think we will lose

-2 minutes a week on the 6.00 news services reading out the scores
-2 pages a week in the advertiser (newspapers will be dead in 5 years anyway)
-1 hour a week on 5AA

I wouldn't think the SANFL gets much exposure as it is on main stream media. It's more stations like Life FM and 5rph, the messenger papers and I would be pretty confident they would continue to support the SANFL.

This is the day and age where people go directly to the 'information' they want (thanks to search engines etc etc). Example being if someone really wants to find out a score they will go on the net and do so before they wait around for channel 9 to show them. Providing they can advertise smartly and have the information available when people go looking I think they will be fine.

I also wouldn't think there would be to many sponsors of the SANFL that are just because of the minimal main stream exposure we currently get.

I'd be more worried about the coverage of the game then anything. You wouldn't lose sponsor over tv news and paper, but I'd suggest there could be some lost because of the tv deal.

[Macca19]

has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

F: Mcintyre / Johnston / Johncock
HF: Tambling / Orval / Martin
C: Wright / Riley / Atkins
HB: Ellis-Yolmen / Shaw / Jaensch
B: Brown / Hartigan / L Thompson

R: Graham / Grigg / Lyons
I: Joyce / Siggins / Dowdell

Much like Ports, it certainly wont be dominating.

[the joker]

I think it's almost a certainty that both port and crows reserves will be in the league now. the AFL clubs would rather be in the SAAFL than the reserves. And the bosses at the SANFL doesn't want the comp to start losing media coverage and lose all AFL players and it will happen. Imagine next year tex walker comes back next year through the reserves, the media would all over that game, and if its in the SAAFL there would be a bigger crowd than SANFL.

I'll let the club know to order an extra pallet of beer, given Jarryd Lyons could be playing tomorrow and Matty Wright is.

I mean they going to bring at least an extra 1000 each through the gate....

I don't mean the crowds from every game, but next year tex walker will be coming back from a knee recon and that will bring huge crowds and main stream media. And SANFL bosses don't want him playing at Salisbury north when the dogs are playing south at Elizabeth in front of 1000.

[the joker]

has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

F: Mcintyre / Johnston / Johncock
HF: Tambling / Orval / Martin
C: Wright / Riley / Atkins
HB: Ellis-Yolmen / Shaw / Jaensch
B: Brown / Hartigan / L Thompson

R: Graham / Grigg / Lyons
I: Joyce / Siggins / Dowdell

Much like Ports, it certainly wont be dominating.

Yeah but if they leave the league or play reserves how much will the talent pool drop not having those players.
Some of the SANFL clubs AFL players are their best
North Matty wright is their best player,
Centrals wingnut is their best
Glenelg Lyons is in their best two players
Sturt would not get within 10 goals of any other side without AFL players

[Harry the Horse]

And how many of those blokes are available in September?
We don't need them.

[whufc]

Just a question what media coverage do people think we will lose

-2 minutes a week on the 6.00 news services reading out the scores
-2 pages a week in the advertiser (newspapers will be dead in 5 years anyway)
-1 hour a week on 5AA

I wouldn't think the SANFL gets much exposure as it is on main stream media. It's more stations like Life FM and 5rph, the messenger papers and I would be pretty confident they would continue to support the SANFL.

This is the day and age where people go directly to the 'information' they want (thanks to search engines etc etc). Example being if someone really wants to find out a score they will go on the net and do so before they wait around for channel 9 to show them. Providing they can advertise smartly and have the information available when people go looking I think they will be fine.

I also wouldn't think there would be to many sponsors of the SANFL that are just because of the minimal main stream exposure we currently get.

I'd be more worried about the coverage of the game then anything. You wouldn't lose sponsor over tv news and paper, but I'd suggest there could be some lost because of the tv deal.

Agree, though I'm not sure that the AFL reserves issue will be a factor in whether the ABC broadcasts games or not.

[kickinit]

Just a question what media coverage do people think we will lose

-2 minutes a week on the 6.00 news services reading out the scores
-2 pages a week in the advertiser (newspapers will be dead in 5 years anyway)
-1 hour a week on 5AA

I wouldn't think the SANFL gets much exposure as it is on main stream media. It's more stations like Life FM and 5rph, the messenger papers and I would be pretty confident they would continue to support the SANFL.

This is the day and age where people go directly to the 'information' they want (thanks to search engines etc etc). Example being if someone really wants to find out a score they will go on the net and do so before they wait around for channel 9 to show them. Providing they can advertise smartly and have the information available when people go looking I think they will be fine.

I also wouldn't think there would be to many sponsors of the SANFL that are just because of the minimal main stream exposure we currently get.

I'd be more worried about the coverage of the game then anything. You wouldn't lose sponsor over tv news and paper, but I'd suggest there could be some lost because of the tv deal.

Agree, though I'm not sure that the AFL reserves issue will be a factor in whether the ABC broadcasts games or not.

I think if the afl reserves are in or not it's still a major issue for the SANFL. If they have some sort of streaming on the net they could do a 15 second comercial before the game and at qtr time breaks for the major sponsor. I don't know what the cost of something like that would be but i'm sure there would be sponsors that would put in money for that exposure, which would mean no or minimal cost for supporters/sanfl.

[kickinit]

It appears from the overall comments so far that Port fans are very progressive and open to change whereas everyone else is just stuck in the past and doomed to extinction.

How does this change sound to you:

It's been clear for quite a while that the PAFC in its current state is not sustainable. A few suggestions of change that might help:
- Potential relocation to another city to draw bigger and less fickle crowds. Hobart Power sounds like a good idea.
- Rebranding within SA. A name change to something like the Southern Power to attract people put off by the whole insular Port tribal mentality. Calling yourselves the Southern Power will highlight your link to SA - after all you complain a lot about the Crows calling themselvesThe Team For All South Australians. Perhaps you can embrace more of the SA part than the Alberton part of your identity.
- Change of colours to remove the black and white with a more vibrant feel to it.
- Get rid of 1870 off the back of your guernsey and get rid of silly references to history and tradition in that children's nursery rhyme of a club song.

I'm sure you guys can think of a few more ideas that will help Port out.

After all you guys are just so open to the idea of change.

Happy brainstorming.

still crying after yesterday? funny thing is you only hear crows fans say " the team for all south australians" after you win. sure we won't hear that phrase this week.