INS and OUTS for 2010

[Mickyj]

Brad Dabrowski annouced his retirement to the players at training tonight.

Damn and I missed training

[Mickyj]

Brad Dabrowski annouced his retirement to the players at training tonight.

would craig parry's arrival to wwt have caused him to make this decision ? or is it more to do with time or injuries ?

Work more than likely Bayman.
Though we were told he would play in 2010 perhaps he decided to concentrate on the Police Force .

That would mean Parry and Redden as the leading ruckmen

[Barto]

Can any Sturt fan tell me how a club that allegedly can't pay all its players on time (some are more special than others but they all do get paid eventually) can afford $50 000 in transfer fees for both these players, allegedly...

Any truth in the rumour that these allegations got a run in the Sunday Mail yesterday? I dont have a copy handy..

[am Bays]

Happy to be proven wrong...

[Barto]

Happy to be proven wrong...

Didn't answer the question.

[am Bays]

I believe other allegations were mentioned in todays fish wrappings

[Pseudo]

I believe other allegations were mentioned in todays fish wrappings

So if we're lucky, the article will appear on the AdelaideNow website by the middle of next week. Maybe.

[Big Phil]

Here's a few quotes from the recent Panther recruits...

http://guardian-messenger.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/a-liddle-help-for-south/

A Liddle help for South


VICS KICK IN: VFL recruits Xavier Gotch, Nick Liddle, Andrew
Horne and Dylan Joyce will add some strength to the Panthers.


SOUTH Adelaide has added a quartet of Victorian midfielders as it seeks to rebuild for the 2010 SANFL season.

Coburg onballers Andrew Horne and Nick Liddle have joined Williamstown recruits Dylan Joyce and Xavier Gotch as the Panthers look to add drive in the middle of the ground.

Horne, 21, was nervous and excited about signing with a new club, but is now looking forward to the year.

``They’ve got big grounds here and once we win the ball out into space, we can cut up a few teams,’’ he said. The 2008 VFL Team of the Year member said playing in the SANFL will be a lot different than the VFL.

``Each week, there are up to 15 AFL players in the team (in the VFL), so it can be hard to get a game there.’’

Horne will not begin full preseason training until after Christmas because of a slight case of osteitis pubis and is currently limited to swimming, cycling and boxing.

Fellow recruit Liddle, 21, won the best and fairest at Coburg in 2009.

``Coburg weren’t going so well, and I’d been there three years so it was a good opportunity for experience,” he said.

``My fitness is fine. I did a little bit of stuff by myself in Melbourne before coming over here, but training here was another step up, more intense.

``Firstly, I want to get into the team, and then be consistent, and hopefully play good enough each week to keep my spot in the side.”

South Adelaide football manager Neill Sharpe said the four midfield signings would be a key to the Panthers development in 2010.

``The club identified a need for midfielders and we’re fortunate to get these quality players,” he said.

``If they get though preseason well they should play straight up, but there are never any guarantees.

``We are looking for the guys to play the best footy they can.’’

The Panthers began preseason training last month and will play three trial games against SANFL teams, starting with the Eagles on Saturday, February 27, at Hickinbotham Oval.

South is again at home to take on Port Adelaide Magpies on March 13, then Norwood on March 20 at Coopers Stadium.

[Ronnie]

Happy to be proven wrong...

Why? what proof are you after?

[Big Phil]

Official announcement from the Eagles, confirming the retirement of Brad Dabrowski...

The WWTFC is saddened to announce the retirement of Brad Dabrowski after a total of 149 SANFL games (79 with West Adelaide, 70 with the Eagles), over a career that spanned 10 seasons.

The two time State representative, 2006 premiership player and Club vice captain said “Towards the end of the 2009 season my priorities in life had started to change. I came to the realisation that interests and goals outside of football which have had to be sacrificed due to the requirements of playing League football are now to become my main focus”.

“Ultimately, this has led me to make this decision and I look forward to having a winter in which I can pursue these interests with the same energy that I have approached my football”.

“I have thoroughly enjoyed my time at the Eagles and leave the Club with fantastic memories and many good friends and I wish everyone associated with the Club all the best for 2010”.

Eagles coach Michael Godden said of the decision “Both the Club and I have appreciated Brad’s honesty throughout his decision making process”.

“It really is a testament to the man that he put the Club’s interests first, in making sure that we were aware of the likelihood of him making this decision”.

“It allowed us to put a recruiting process in place to cover Brad should he make the decision to retire which has helped us immensely”.

Please join me in thanking Brad for his service to the Club and in wishing him all the best for the future.

[Big Phil]

A little piece from the Messenger website on Joffa Giles wanting out at Central...


http://eastern-courier-messenger.whereilive.com.au/sport/story/giles-wants-out-at-central/

Giles wants out at Central


SWAPPING SIDES: Central ruckman Jon Giles could be headed to Sturt.

JON Giles has told Central District he wants a transfer to another SANFL club because of a perceived lack of playing time.

Bulldogs CEO Kris Grant said the dual premiership ruckman believes being forced to play second fiddle to Jason MacKenzie in 2009 cost him his AFL career.

Giles, 21, was delisted by Port Adelaide at the end of the season after failing to crack in to the Power side during four seasons on the club’s list.

``He’s told us he doesn’t want to play here anymore,’’ Grant said.

``I think he believes he doesn’t get enough game time with us, which cost him his AFL spot.’’

Grant said Bulldogs coach Roy Laird had told Giles he would have greater playing opportunities in 2010, but the 199cm tapman was not convinced.

``We’re bitterly disappointed. For a bloke that’s played in two premierships for us to want to leave is just massively disappointing.’’

Grant said Sturt has asked for permission to speak with Giles, who hails from Kapunda in the Bulldogs zone.

``They’ve got to understand there’s a $25,000 transfer fee and we won’t be budging on that,’’ he said.

Giles has played 39 League games for Central and was a reliable back-up to MacKenzie during this season’s finals series.

He kicked the winning goal in the Bulldogs’ come-from-behind win over the Double Blues in the qualifying final.

[NFC]

I think Giles is decent. Don't rate his ruckwork much at all but as a forward he moves well, is agile and can get out on the lead. As I said though, as a ruckman he struggles and eventually he'll realise he's more of a forward than a ruckman.

[sjt]

It would be interesting to see what the current Sturt ruckmen think of this potential move.
It's disappointing news, I wonder if Sturt are prepared to pay the transfer fee.

[Big Phil]

It would be interesting to see what the current Sturt ruckmen think of this potential move.
It's disappointing news, I wonder if Sturt are prepared to pay the transfer fee.

Yeah, it would be very interesting from Angus Kurtze's and Jake Bowen's perspective as to their thoughts on the club chasing Joffa Giles.

Almost evryone would agree that Kurtze was the most improved ruckman in the comp over the last 2 seasons and was strongly touted to be picked up by Essendon last year, end of 2008.

That didn't eventuate and after the retirement of Simon Feast, Angus stepped up as lead ruckman to play very good football this year only to be overlooked for the Grand Final.

Now, he must be doubting what his true worth is as the club looks to get Giles over from Central. Bowen has always played second fiddle, apart from this finals series and he would now doubt whether he will drop to third in line and find himself in the magoos ?

Interesting times ahead in the Double Blue rucking department indeed !!??

[bloods08]

Kurtze may not be there next season. Have heard a few AFL clubs are quite keen for his services.

[Big Phil]

Kurtze may not be there next season. Have heard a few AFL clubs are quite keen for his services.

As they were last year as well but nothing eventuated then...

I would assume there would have been a few AFL scouts in Adelaide for the SANFL finals and if they had a keen eye on him, I wonder what they would have been thinking to see that he wasn't able to make the side for the league finals campaign.

I just wonder whether that would have or will affect his chances of being drafted at all ? I personally don't think he will get picked up, even as a mature age rookie, I would think James Meiklejohn would be more of a chance to get a spot on an AFL list.

On the other hand, maybe Kurtze has been assured he will eb rookie listed and therefore Sturt have realised they need to be on the front foot chasing a ruckman and Giles not wanting to play with the Dogs has coincided perfectly hence their desire to pick him up ?

Who knows, only time will tell...

[Big Phil]

I think Giles is decent. Don't rate his ruckwork much at all but as a forward he moves well, is agile and can get out on the lead. As I said though, as a ruckman he struggles and eventually he'll realise he's more of a forward than a ruckman.

Interesting you see him that way NFC, I actually see him as a better ruckman than a forward and having seen him play 90% of his career in the SANFL, the times he has been tried as a forward, barring maybe the final against Sturt this year, he hasn't performed IMO.

I think he is too slow off the mark and certainly doesn't do enough work defensively in terms of run down tackles and forward line pressure. As a ruckman, I think over the last 4 years, he certainly has matured and improved into a quality footballer.

I remember him as a skinny kid in the early days (we all remember the pictures in the 'Tiser comparing him at the time with then Power ruckman Matty Primus) being pushed off the ball way too easy and not doing enough work around the ground.

In the last 2 seasons, he has significantly improved in his tap work, has of course put more bulk on therefore not being pushed off the ball as easy and no doubt has increased his endurance capacity to work around the ground and get to more contests.

I called stats for a Central's reserves game that Giles played in late in the year and from memory he had something like 40 hitouts, 35 posessions, kicked a couple of goals and appeared on the tackles, sheppards and smothers tally. Three or four years ago, this would never have happened.

The only doubt I still have on him is his disposal. He drops the ball to his boot as opposed to guiding it and at times, his disposal and thinking can let him down. If he goes to Sturt and Kurtze and Bowen are still at Unley, it will be very interesting to see what unfolds there.

[The Apostle]

Giles not wanting to play for Centrals anymore doesn't make any sense to me...

[pantherfromwayback]

Giles not wanting to play for Centrals anymore doesn't make any sense to me...

This from a centrals supporter, I'm in complete & utter shock

[nickname]

It sounds like he's more interested in establishing an AFL career than playing in any more SANFL premiership sides.