AFL Reserves Discussion...

[kickinit]

(2) The already scarce coverage of the SANFL may make way for coverage of the SANFL Reserves (i.e. just the Crows and Power Reserves teams) in the paper and on the TV news etc. What's more, the broader public knowledge of the SANFL (which obviously is already much diminished on what it was twenty years ago) will now relate solely to the Reserves. The Crows may win the Reserves competition and most of the general sporting public will think they've won the league. Media like Channel 7 will be happy to let coverage of the SANFL League competition disappear.

But if we allow them to play in the League Comp there might be some "renewed" interest in the SANFL via the main stream media (MMM, 5AA, Tiser, Channels 7, 9 and 10) you can bet all the focus will be on the PAFC and Crows teams to the point it will appear to be a 2 team comp. At least with them in the Reserves Comp how much real interest will the main stream media have in reporting their games against other Reserves teams at 11.30 on a Saturday once the novelty wears off?

Personally i dont think main stream media is no where near as important as it once was.

With modern technology the SANFL and the 8 clubs are able to hit their demorgraphic directly via websites/forums/emails/bulk sms/facebook/youtube/twitter etc etc. This also relates to the modern generation alot better as well.

I was speaking to my 13 year old brother the other day about this and he was saying he has never watched any of the 5-6 o'clock tv news. If he wants to find out any news he will go to direct news websites like adelaidenow, heraldsun, ninesmn etc etc.

while it's great to hit that younger generation with the social media side of things, sponsor exposure isn't going to do too well that way. The youtube stream of games is good but they need to up the quality if it's going to happen more often. I can't believe with how far our TV technology has progressed over the last couple of years, that our local sports are is such bad state of tv coverage. Look at the SANFL, NBL, Cricket and Netball. We now have more channels and our sports hardly get seen or it's 1 match a week. You telling me that one of the stations couldn't afford to put the SANFL on one of the back channels for 2 hours on a friday saturday and sunday or whenever the games are played. Even though I didn't use but the NBL did a thing with iinet (could be wrong). The NBA does it where you can stream all live games or download them later to watch them. I'd prefer the sanfl to go along this line so at least the games can be watched later on instead of only streaming, like youtube. But they do need to look at doing something because it will play part with sponsor not having a great exposure, same thing happened in the NBL when their media exposure was cut some years ago.

[whufc]

Two posts in a row where i agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep some form of stream would be a great idea for the SANFL, i think they tried something similar by having a game live on youtube, im not sure how many hits it received and what costs were involved to make it happen but i think they should continue down some path of live streaming.

[kickinit]

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Two posts in a row where i agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep some form of stream would be a great idea for the SANFL, i think they tried something similar by having a game live on youtube, im not sure how many hits it received and what costs were involved to make it happen but i think they should continue down some path of live streaming.

I'd also like to see some form where the game could be downloaded and watched at a later time. For me the reason not getting to too many SANFL games is due to work commitments. I don't know about the NBL but I know the NBA one you could do different packages but there was a package for every game. Also some people don't have the internet speed to be able to stream a game at good enough quality to watch. I don't know about everyone else but i'd pay to be able to watch every magpies game and have the ability to download them to watch later. They could do deals for every game, the club of your choice games and even do single games for when people can't get to games.

[whufc]

:shock:

Two posts in a row where i agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep some form of stream would be a great idea for the SANFL, i think they tried something similar by having a game live on youtube, im not sure how many hits it received and what costs were involved to make it happen but i think they should continue down some path of live streaming.

I'd also like to see some form where the game could be downloaded and watched at a later time. For me the reason not getting to too many SANFL games is due to work commitments. I don't know about the NBL but I know the NBA one you could do different packages but there was a package for every game. Also some people don't have the internet speed to be able to stream a game at good enough quality to watch. I don't know about everyone else but i'd pay to be able to watch every magpies game and have the ability to download them to watch later. They could do deals for every game, the club of your choice games and even do single games for when people can't get to games.

Yep couldnt agree more!

At a guess i would say there would be a very high percentage of SANFL followers out there who would go to games but cant due to work, family and own sporting commitments and some form of stream set up would be perfect to keep their interests and therefore hoping they would continue to attend when they can rather than lose interest and stop attending.

So many different options they could go with and you wouldnt think overly expensive to do.

[kickinit]

:shock:

Two posts in a row where i agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep some form of stream would be a great idea for the SANFL, i think they tried something similar by having a game live on youtube, im not sure how many hits it received and what costs were involved to make it happen but i think they should continue down some path of live streaming.

I'd also like to see some form where the game could be downloaded and watched at a later time. For me the reason not getting to too many SANFL games is due to work commitments. I don't know about the NBL but I know the NBA one you could do different packages but there was a package for every game. Also some people don't have the internet speed to be able to stream a game at good enough quality to watch. I don't know about everyone else but i'd pay to be able to watch every magpies game and have the ability to download them to watch later. They could do deals for every game, the club of your choice games and even do single games for when people can't get to games.

Yep couldnt agree more!

At a guess i would say there would be a very high percentage of SANFL followers out there who would go to games but cant due to work, family and own sporting commitments and some form of stream set up would be perfect to keep their interests and therefore hoping they would continue to attend when they can rather than lose interest and stop attending.

So many different options they could go with and you wouldnt think overly expensive to do.

You put away the AFL reserves stuff and it is a major issue for the SANFL clubs. You only have to look at the NBL and how that went after their media exposure was cut. You think of the sponsor that only have a interest in the clubs for marketing, if their exposure is cut they are going to cut funding as well. It's almost like saying your almost going to cut someones tv commercial by half but expect them to pay the same amount.

For the followers it would more then likely bring more people back to the footy. Look at all the housing developments that have taken place out North. I'm sure there is a fair few people living out north now that don't follow Centrals. And more then likely have probably turned away or attend very few games because of the distant to travel.

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but watching the news on tv and watching a footy match on tv are 2 different things, does your brother watch footy now? or just get results from electronic media?

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:shock:

Two posts in a row where i agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep some form of stream would be a great idea for the SANFL, i think they tried something similar by having a game live on youtube, im not sure how many hits it received and what costs were involved to make it happen but i think they should continue down some path of live streaming.

I'd also like to see some form where the game could be downloaded and watched at a later time. For me the reason not getting to too many SANFL games is due to work commitments. I don't know about the NBL but I know the NBA one you could do different packages but there was a package for every game. Also some people don't have the internet speed to be able to stream a game at good enough quality to watch. I don't know about everyone else but i'd pay to be able to watch every magpies game and have the ability to download them to watch later. They could do deals for every game, the club of your choice games and even do single games for when people can't get to games.

Yep couldnt agree more!

At a guess i would say there would be a very high percentage of SANFL followers out there who would go to games but cant due to work, family and own sporting commitments and some form of stream set up would be perfect to keep their interests and therefore hoping they would continue to attend when they can rather than lose interest and stop attending.

So many different options they could go with and you wouldnt think overly expensive to do.

You put away the AFL reserves stuff and it is a major issue for the SANFL clubs. You only have to look at the NBL and how that went after their media exposure was cut. You think of the sponsor that only have a interest in the clubs for marketing, if their exposure is cut they are going to cut funding as well. It's almost like saying your almost going to cut someones tv commercial by half but expect them to pay the same amount.

For the followers it would more then likely bring more people back to the footy. Look at all the housing developments that have taken place out North. I'm sure there is a fair few people living out north now that don't follow Centrals. And more then likely have probably turned away or attend very few games because of the distant to travel.

sorry to pickonit, kickinit..........but it's THAN!!!!

[LMA]

We certainly couldn't have change in this state of ours, let's continue to be a laughing stock of a state whether it be in football or in general and keep debating it for another 30 years. All for the reserves in the SANFL, I think over time would improve the standard and exposure of the comp. Die hard SANFL supporters remind me of that guy who thinks he has discovered a good band before anyone else and when they go mainstream and get popular he doesn't like them anymore.

[UK Fan]

This always makes me laugh


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=aTEKSaau ... TEKSaauT9E

that must be old.

Very!!!

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the common theme here, Port supporters want AFL reserves in the SANFL but no-one else does. hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................

[the joker]

I think it's almost a certainty that both port and crows reserves will be in the league now. the AFL clubs would rather be in the SAAFL than the reserves. And the bosses at the SANFL doesn't want the comp to start losing media coverage and lose all AFL players and it will happen. Imagine next year tex walker comes back next year through the reserves, the media would all over that game, and if its in the SAAFL there would be a bigger crowd than SANFL.

[Jim05]

I think it's almost a certainty that both port and crows reserves will be in the league now. the AFL clubs would rather be in the SAAFL than the reserves. And the bosses at the SANFL doesn't want the comp to start losing media coverage and lose all AFL players and it will happen. Imagine next year tex walker comes back next year through the reserves, the media would all over that game, and if its in the SAAFL there would be a bigger crowd than SANFL.

The hype will eventually die down. I dont think media or fans go to watch a particular player.
Norwood's crowds were not any bigger because Tex was playing.
The general public couldnt give 2 hoots about reserves.
I regularly have attended Essendon reserve games over a long period and there is usually lucky to be 2 men and a dog there even if there is a star back playing.

[whufc]

Just a question what media coverage do people think we will lose

-2 minutes a week on the 6.00 news services reading out the scores
-2 pages a week in the advertiser (newspapers will be dead in 5 years anyway)
-1 hour a week on 5AA

I wouldn't think the SANFL gets much exposure as it is on main stream media. It's more stations like Life FM and 5rph, the messenger papers and I would be pretty confident they would continue to support the SANFL.

This is the day and age where people go directly to the 'information' they want (thanks to search engines etc etc). Example being if someone really wants to find out a score they will go on the net and do so before they wait around for channel 9 to show them. Providing they can advertise smartly and have the information available when people go looking I think they will be fine.

I also wouldn't think there would be to many sponsors of the SANFL that are just because of the minimal main stream exposure we currently get.

[whufc]

I think it's almost a certainty that both port and crows reserves will be in the league now. the AFL clubs would rather be in the SAAFL than the reserves. And the bosses at the SANFL doesn't want the comp to start losing media coverage and lose all AFL players and it will happen. Imagine next year tex walker comes back next year through the reserves, the media would all over that game, and if its in the SAAFL there would be a bigger crowd than SANFL.

The hype will eventually die down. I dont think media or fans go to watch a particular player.
Norwood's crowds were not any bigger because Tex was playing.
The general public couldnt give 2 hoots about reserves.
I regularly have attended Essendon reserve games over a long period and there is usually lucky to be 2 men and a dog there even if there is a star back playing.

Agree, personally I have never heard any mates (casual fans) say their going to the SANFL because of what AFL listed players are available in the game.

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I think it's almost a certainty that both port and crows reserves will be in the league now. the AFL clubs would rather be in the SAAFL than the reserves. And the bosses at the SANFL doesn't want the comp to start losing media coverage and lose all AFL players and it will happen. Imagine next year tex walker comes back next year through the reserves, the media would all over that game, and if its in the SAAFL there would be a bigger crowd than SANFL.

The hype will eventually die down. I dont think media or fans go to watch a particular player.
Norwood's crowds were not any bigger because Tex was playing.
The general public couldnt give 2 hoots about reserves.
I regularly have attended Essendon reserve games over a long period and there is usually lucky to be 2 men and a dog there even if there is a star back playing.

exactly.

[am Bays]

I think it's almost a certainty that both port and crows reserves will be in the league now. the AFL clubs would rather be in the SAAFL than the reserves. And the bosses at the SANFL doesn't want the comp to start losing media coverage and lose all AFL players and it will happen. Imagine next year tex walker comes back next year through the reserves, the media would all over that game, and if its in the SAAFL there would be a bigger crowd than SANFL.

I'll let the club know to order an extra pallet of beer, given Jarryd Lyons could be playing tomorrow and Matty Wright is.

I mean they going to bring at least an extra 1000 each through the gate....

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has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

[am Bays]

I think it's almost a certainty that both port and crows reserves will be in the league now. the AFL clubs would rather be in the SAAFL than the reserves. And the bosses at the SANFL doesn't want the comp to start losing media coverage and lose all AFL players and it will happen. Imagine next year tex walker comes back next year through the reserves, the media would all over that game, and if its in the SAAFL there would be a bigger crowd than SANFL.

I'll let the club know to order an extra pallet of beer, given Jarryd Lyons could be playing tomorrow and Matty Wright is.

I mean they going to bring at least an extra 1000 each through the gate....

And A1s better than SANFL reserves? Don't get me wrong each A1 has club has 4-5 players that are capable of playing league footy today (like each SANFL reserves team has). Where SANFL reserves has it over A1 clubs, and the A grade at country leagues is that the bottom six players in reserves teams are fitter and better skilled than the bottom six players at an A1 club.

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has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

was thinking just the same thing at about 3 this morning.

[Jim05]

has anyone listed what a Crows reserves line-up might look like? the players & calibre that would be on the park?

was thinking just the same thing at about 3 this morning.

Squad members who didnt play yesterday ( including injuries)
Atkins, Brown, Dowdell, Ellis-Yeomen, Graham, Grigg, Hartigan, Jaensch, Johncock, Johnston, Joyce, Kloasen, Lyons, MacKay, Martin, McIntyre, Orval, Osborn, Riley, Shaw, Siggins, Tambling, L.Thompson, Walker, Wright