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Re: Bamford gone

Postby heater31 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:42 pm

beenreal wrote:
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topsywaldron wrote:As the players not selected for the Power are currently spread over the eight other clubs what benefit is to Port to have a Power assistant coach the Magpies?

Unless I've missed something, I'm assuming the Power aligned draftees are distributed to the nine SANFL clubs via the mini draft as always?


When this "one club" merge happened it was stated, it was done purely for "off field" reasons i.e to save on admin. costs. Obviously it also helped the Power get the gaming license. It would be pretty hard to argue that reducing a clubs off field costs wouldn't also assist the club on field, by re-distributing funding. Now we hear all this propoganda about aligning the Magpies more closely on the field, with coaches and the ultimate aim of receiving all the "mimi-drafted" drafted players. I knew when this was all approved it was the thin edge of the wedge and they couldn't be trusted.


All I've heard is a load of bitching from SANFL clubs about how the PAFC is inconveniencing them with the use of OUR players. Simple answer, don't mini-draft them and let the Magpies pick them up. I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.



All I have seen is the AFL club treat the other SANFL clubs like dirt.

No wonder they complain when they have players pulled out from their care at a moments notice. Even more so when the player is loaned out from his original club due to having the bye. Then on game day leaving the guest club short when they have released all their squad players to local footy.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Jim05 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:58 pm

beenreal wrote:
sjt wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:As the players not selected for the Power are currently spread over the eight other clubs what benefit is to Port to have a Power assistant coach the Magpies?

Unless I've missed something, I'm assuming the Power aligned draftees are distributed to the nine SANFL clubs via the mini draft as always?


When this "one club" merge happened it was stated, it was done purely for "off field" reasons i.e to save on admin. costs. Obviously it also helped the Power get the gaming license. It would be pretty hard to argue that reducing a clubs off field costs wouldn't also assist the club on field, by re-distributing funding. Now we hear all this propoganda about aligning the Magpies more closely on the field, with coaches and the ultimate aim of receiving all the "mimi-drafted" drafted players. I knew when this was all approved it was the thin edge of the wedge and they couldn't be trusted.


All I've heard is a load of bitching from SANFL clubs about how the PAFC is inconveniencing them with the use of OUR players. Simple answer, don't mini-draft them and let the Magpies pick them up. I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.

Simple, ban all AFL listed players from the SANFL
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby CENTURION » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:07 pm

Jim05 wrote:
beenreal wrote:
sjt wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:As the players not selected for the Power are currently spread over the eight other clubs what benefit is to Port to have a Power assistant coach the Magpies?

Unless I've missed something, I'm assuming the Power aligned draftees are distributed to the nine SANFL clubs via the mini draft as always?


When this "one club" merge happened it was stated, it was done purely for "off field" reasons i.e to save on admin. costs. Obviously it also helped the Power get the gaming license. It would be pretty hard to argue that reducing a clubs off field costs wouldn't also assist the club on field, by re-distributing funding. Now we hear all this propoganda about aligning the Magpies more closely on the field, with coaches and the ultimate aim of receiving all the "mimi-drafted" drafted players. I knew when this was all approved it was the thin edge of the wedge and they couldn't be trusted.


All I've heard is a load of bitching from SANFL clubs about how the PAFC is inconveniencing them with the use of OUR players. Simple answer, don't mini-draft them and let the Magpies pick them up. I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.

Simple, ban all AFL listed players from the SANFL

totally agree.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Pseudo » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:36 pm

beenreal wrote:
sjt wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:As the players not selected for the Power are currently spread over the eight other clubs what benefit is to Port to have a Power assistant coach the Magpies?

Unless I've missed something, I'm assuming the Power aligned draftees are distributed to the nine SANFL clubs via the mini draft as always?


When this "one club" merge happened it was stated, it was done purely for "off field" reasons i.e to save on admin. costs. Obviously it also helped the Power get the gaming license. It would be pretty hard to argue that reducing a clubs off field costs wouldn't also assist the club on field, by re-distributing funding. Now we hear all this propoganda about aligning the Magpies more closely on the field, with coaches and the ultimate aim of receiving all the "mimi-drafted" drafted players. I knew when this was all approved it was the thin edge of the wedge and they couldn't be trusted.


All I've heard is a load of bitching from SANFL clubs about how the PAFC is inconveniencing them with the use of OUR players. Simple answer, don't mini-draft them and let the Magpies pick them up. I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.


Wasn't a problem before the Magpies sold themselves to the AFL entity.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Pseudo » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:38 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
beenreal wrote:I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.


Then I'm all for it.

I for one am sick of Norwood turning de-listed AFL footballers into better players and not receiving money for them, Pfeiffer, Phillips et al.

That's manifestly unfair and no amount of your mealy mouthed b*llshit can justify it.

Norwood should take a leaf out of Glenelg's book.

Damage the players psychologically by shunting them in and out of the reserves, then sell them to the Magpies when they're close to burnt out. :lol:
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby dedja » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:39 pm

beenreal wrote:All I've heard is a load of bitching from SANFL clubs about how the PAFC is inconveniencing them with the use of OUR players. Simple answer, don't mini-draft them and let the Magpies pick them up. I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.


The Bays did with Salopek by handing him 'back' to you, then he didn't want to stay there ... oh, and thanks for the transfer fee :lol:
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Pseudo » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:40 pm

CENTURION wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Simple, ban all AFL listed players from the SANFL

totally agree.

Would solve a lot of issues.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby beenreal » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:56 pm

Pseudo wrote:
CENTURION wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Simple, ban all AFL listed players from the SANFL

totally agree.

Would solve a lot of issues.


I agree, and if that's the case it should also solve the issue of SANFL clubs holding out their hands for the dividend.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Pseudo » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:03 pm

beenreal wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
CENTURION wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Simple, ban all AFL listed players from the SANFL

totally agree.

Would solve a lot of issues.


I agree, and if that's the case it should also solve the issue of SANFL clubs holding out their hands for the dividend.


Nope. If and when the SANFL sells its AFL teams for a very large sum, then and only then would the constituent clubs not be entitled to a return on their investment. The dividend is not a compensation for having to play second-string AFL players.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby UK Fan » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:18 pm

beenreal wrote:
Pseudo wrote:
CENTURION wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Simple, ban all AFL listed players from the SANFL

totally agree.

Would solve a lot of issues.


I agree, and if that's the case it should also solve the issue of SANFL clubs holding out their hands for the dividend.


How are the two subject related at all Beeny??? Do you think we get dividends cos the players who aren't selected for afl play in our league. Clueless. You really have no idea why sanfl clubs receive dividends do you??
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby dedja » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:22 pm

(with hands up) ooo, ooo, ooo, ooo (in a Horshack voice).

Mr Kotter, is it because the clubs own the licence through the SANFL? is that why they get a dividend?
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:42 pm

Shut up Horshack
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:01 am

topsywaldron wrote:
beenreal wrote:I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.


Then I'm all for it.

I for one am sick of Norwood turning de-listed AFL footballers into better players and not receiving money for them, Pfeiffer, Phillips et al.

That's manifestly unfair and no amount of your mealy mouthed b*llshit can justify it.


Norwood turned Pfeiffer and Phillips into "better" players?
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby holden78 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:10 am

Booney wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:
beenreal wrote:I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.


Then I'm all for it.

I for one am sick of Norwood turning de-listed AFL footballers into better players and not receiving money for them, Pfeiffer, Phillips et al.

That's manifestly unfair and no amount of your mealy mouthed b*llshit can justify it.


Norwood turned Pfeiffer and Phillips into "better" players?


That's not Norwood's job! Your Flowers recruiting track record is amongst the AFL's worst so stop trying to blame others that's why you are where you deserve to be.
I doubt any real dividend has come back to the SANFL from the Flowers in the last 15 years.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:16 am

Flowers? What's Icehouse got to do with this?
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:32 am

holden78 wrote:
Booney wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:
beenreal wrote:I for one am sick of seeing players paid by Port Adelaide playing against Port Adelaide.

Then I'm all for it.
I for one am sick of Norwood turning de-listed AFL footballers into better players and not receiving money for them, Pfeiffer, Phillips et al.
That's manifestly unfair and no amount of your mealy mouthed b*llshit can justify it.

Norwood turned Pfeiffer and Phillips into "better" players?

That's not Norwood's job! Your Flowers recruiting track record is amongst the AFL's worst so stop trying to blame others that's why you are where you deserve to be.
I doubt any real dividend has come back to the SANFL from the Flowers in the last 15 years.
Wasn't it 3 million given to them last year :roll:


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Re: Bamford gone

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:24 am

Booney wrote:Norwood turned Pfeiffer and Phillips into "better" players?


When they were de-listed by Carlton and Sydney respectively they weren't re-drafted that year. They then went back to Norwood and played for one and two years and were then picked up by AFL clubs.

Read that scenario how you will.
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Postby RustyCage » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:22 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
Booney wrote:Norwood turned Pfeiffer and Phillips into "better" players?


When they were de-listed by Carlton and Sydney respectively they weren't re-drafted that year. They then went back to Norwood and played for one and two years and were then picked up by AFL clubs.

Read that scenario how you will.


Good local league players so stand out and get noticed by AFL clubs, but average AFL players, leading to their delisting
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby Booney » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:29 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
Booney wrote:Norwood turned Pfeiffer and Phillips into "better" players?


When they were de-listed by Carlton and Sydney respectively they weren't re-drafted that year. They then went back to Norwood and played for one and two years and were then picked up by AFL clubs.

Read that scenario how you will.


So they were fringe AFL players who were delisted, relisted on the fringe and now (1) have been delisted.

To be honest, I dont know how the hell Phillips ended up on our list. Another baffling recruit.
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Re: Bamford gone

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:17 pm

Booney wrote:So they were fringe AFL players who were delisted, relisted on the fringe and now (1) have been delisted.


But why shouldn't Norwood (or any other league's players) be paid when the players are relisted if they've been off a list for a year?

Nick Lower, demonstrably a better player after a year with Bassett than after four or so with Mark Williams, a fact recognised by his re-drafting by Fremantle after Norwood spent a year providing facilities and coaches for him to train and play.

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