Port Adelaide Reunification Exceeds Expectations!

[Booney]

[dedja]

Are you lost Booney? Did you mean to post that in the Third Test thread instead?

[Booney]

Are you lost Booney? Did you mean to post that in the Third Test thread instead?

Could have, but no. I'm also looking for a picture of blokes in various football guernsey's running around a round-about if you could find one.

[Sojourner]

Not sure how anyone can defend the PAFC losing over $6m in the last 3 years..

Its more like the SANFL losing it - they own the clubs licence, maybe then the blame should be directed at the license holder for allowing their investment to achieve that result. How many people would hold a share portfolio and just watch year after year as it loses money without taking any action to correct it? In the SANFL's case they just continue throwing money at it hoping it will solve the problem without actually addressing the issue of the stadium deal and lack of a proper pokies facility and so on.

[finn]

Sorry to drag up old ground but let's try to recount what Port's business plan was when it entered the AFL shall we?

Wasn't it based on attendances over 30,000? Now they are barely hitting 20,000.

One also wonders how bad Port's financial situation would be like without all the dough Allan Scott pumped into the club.

Anyway, just throwing it out there ...

Sure, but a business plan is just that, a plan, not a guaruntee. During 02-04 we had average crowds in the low 30k's and I feel a turn around on field in the next 2 years will see the numbers back in their seats. This will alleviate some of the issues and as mentioned in this thread the OneClub initiative appears to have been positive from the outset.

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according to this logic then, every time port go through a rough patch onfield, they'll need to get financial support from outside normal sponsorship and revenue streams... que?

[CENTURION]

Are you lost Booney? Did you mean to post that in the Third Test thread instead?

think again!

[Psyber]

Not sure how anyone can defend the PAFC losing over $6m in the last 3 years..

Its more like the SANFL losing it - they own the clubs licence, maybe then the blame should be directed at the license holder for allowing their investment to achieve that result. How many people would hold a share portfolio and just watch year after year as it loses money without taking any action to correct it? In the SANFL's case they just continue throwing money at it hoping it will solve the problem without actually addressing the issue of the stadium deal and lack of a proper pokies facility and so on.

If I owned the licence I'd have done the business-like thing and get a new sub-licensee that could draw more customers some time ago..

[spell_check]

Not sure how anyone can defend the PAFC losing over $6m in the last 3 years..

Its more like the SANFL losing it - they own the clubs licence, maybe then the blame should be directed at the license holder for allowing their investment to achieve that result. How many people would hold a share portfolio and just watch year after year as it loses money without taking any action to correct it? In the SANFL's case they just continue throwing money at it hoping it will solve the problem without actually addressing the issue of the stadium deal and lack of a proper pokies facility and so on.

If I owned the licence I'd have done the business-like thing and get a new sub-licensee that could draw more customers some time ago..

The cartel.

[Macca19]

according to this logic then, every time port go through a rough patch onfield, they'll need to get financial support from outside normal sponsorship and revenue streams... que?

Quite possibly correct...but then its the same for pretty much all AFL clubs. Look at the financial results for clubs that have gone through a bad patch on field and youll see that almost every one has ended up losing big big dollars. This is not defending Port, just stating that they arent robinson crusoe in this regard.

[Macca19]

Still, Adelaide have managed for many years to run a very healthy profit and returns to the SANFL clubs, Port never have generated a decent return to the SANFL clubs bar one or two years

And here we go again, and its not like it hasnt been written on here 10-20-30 times before. Port have given a dividend tot he SANFL clubs EVERY year for the past ten years. There has only been I believe TWO times ever that they did not give back a dividend and this was in the 90s. They pay a fixed amount, every year, regardless of profit or loss, just like the Crows do. It has been this way for nearly a decade and is an amount the SANFL has set for the clubs. They paid $355k this year, $344k last year.

Surely its not too difficult to expect regulars on this board to remember this before they go on yet another 'Port dont return a dividend' diatribe.

[Macca19]

That's not what the business plan said when you wanted to get the 2nd license

The footballing landscape across the AFL has changed dramatically since mid 1994. There was no pay tv back then and definitely no live against the gate. Now we have almost all our home games viewable live...sometimes even on free to air. There are more reasons for people not to go to the football these days than back then, as evidenced by both SA clubs steady decline in crowds since live againt the gate became a reality.

fwiw, Port averaged 30k a game across its first 9 seasons. Every Port supporter reecognises that our main issue is a large drop in attendances, but there are some valid reasonings behind some of this drop.

[DOC]

Macca.

Did Port supporters really hate the style of game under Mark Williams and did that impact on the crowd staying away?

[Macca19]

I think both on and offield reasons based around Choco didnt help with poor attendances. Bad on field form - especially at home and ridiculous after match press conferences, shifting the blame etc. had a lot to do with it.

[Barto]

I think both on and offield reasons based around Choco didnt help with poor attendances. Bad on field form - especially at home and ridiculous after match press conferences, shifting the blame etc. had a lot to do with it.

Hopefully the fans are behind Primus. He deserves a good go I reckon.

[Psyber]

Still, Adelaide have managed for many years to run a very healthy profit and returns to the SANFL clubs, Port never have generated a decent return to the SANFL clubs bar one or two years

And here we go again, and its not like it hasnt been written on here 10-20-30 times before. Port have given a dividend tot he SANFL clubs EVERY year for the past ten years. There has only been I believe TWO times ever that they did not give back a dividend and this was in the 90s. They pay a fixed amount, every year, regardless of profit or loss, just like the Crows do. It has been this way for nearly a decade and is an amount the SANFL has set for the clubs. They paid $355k this year, $344k last year.

Surely its not too difficult to expect regulars on this board to remember this before they go on yet another 'Port dont return a dividend' diatribe.

They haven't really given any dividend if it has had to be refunded as SANFL grants later - it is just SANFL money going around in circles.

[Barto]

Still, Adelaide have managed for many years to run a very healthy profit and returns to the SANFL clubs, Port never have generated a decent return to the SANFL clubs bar one or two years

And here we go again, and its not like it hasnt been written on here 10-20-30 times before. Port have given a dividend tot he SANFL clubs EVERY year for the past ten years. There has only been I believe TWO times ever that they did not give back a dividend and this was in the 90s. They pay a fixed amount, every year, regardless of profit or loss, just like the Crows do. It has been this way for nearly a decade and is an amount the SANFL has set for the clubs. They paid $355k this year, $344k last year.

Surely its not too difficult to expect regulars on this board to remember this before they go on yet another 'Port dont return a dividend' diatribe.

They haven't really given any dividend if it has had to be refunded as SANFL grants later - it is just SANFL money going around in circles.

No, no, no.. it's greedy nest of vipers robbing Port blind to prop up a second rate competition.

[Macca19]

Still, Adelaide have managed for many years to run a very healthy profit and returns to the SANFL clubs, Port never have generated a decent return to the SANFL clubs bar one or two years

And here we go again, and its not like it hasnt been written on here 10-20-30 times before. Port have given a dividend tot he SANFL clubs EVERY year for the past ten years. There has only been I believe TWO times ever that they did not give back a dividend and this was in the 90s. They pay a fixed amount, every year, regardless of profit or loss, just like the Crows do. It has been this way for nearly a decade and is an amount the SANFL has set for the clubs. They paid $355k this year, $344k last year.

Surely its not too difficult to expect regulars on this board to remember this before they go on yet another 'Port dont return a dividend' diatribe.

They haven't really given any dividend if it has had to be refunded as SANFL grants later - it is just SANFL money going around in circles.

Well not really. The money goes to the clubs, not the SANFL.

[spell_check]

Still, Adelaide have managed for many years to run a very healthy profit and returns to the SANFL clubs, Port never have generated a decent return to the SANFL clubs bar one or two years

And here we go again, and its not like it hasnt been written on here 10-20-30 times before. Port have given a dividend tot he SANFL clubs EVERY year for the past ten years. There has only been I believe TWO times ever that they did not give back a dividend and this was in the 90s. They pay a fixed amount, every year, regardless of profit or loss, just like the Crows do. It has been this way for nearly a decade and is an amount the SANFL has set for the clubs. They paid $355k this year, $344k last year.

Surely its not too difficult to expect regulars on this board to remember this before they go on yet another 'Port dont return a dividend' diatribe.

They haven't really given any dividend if it has had to be refunded as SANFL grants later - it is just SANFL money going around in circles.

No, no, no.. it's greedy nest of vipers robbing Port blind to prop up a second rate competition.

You're not a BigFooty regular are ya!

[Barto]

You're not a BigFooty regular are ya!

I think the 'nest of vipers' quote was from here, but the other thing is always a good laugh. Anyways, I'm off to visit Leigh Whicker who is currently snorting coke of a hooker's butt using one of the many $100 notes he took from the Port safe in the latest SANFL heist.

[spell_check]

You're not a BigFooty regular are ya!

I think the 'nest of vipers' quote was from here, but the other thing is always a good laugh. Anyways, I'm off to visit Leigh Whicker who is currently snorting coke of a hooker's butt using one of the many $100 notes he took from the Port safe in the latest SANFL heist.

Send me a postcard while you're there.