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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby on the rails » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:12 am

Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:There's no rules stopping SANFL clubs associate with other sporting club. There is a rule that currently stops Port and the Power from merging though (for a least a few more hours anyway).
No new rules at all.
As stated before SANFL clubs have previously had associations with many other clubs.

If the Port members went out and bought a club they could afford like a bridge club or a connect 4 board I'm sure the NAFC would have no objections. ;)


Might as well buy a club, sure cant buy ( or even fall arse backwards ) into a Premiership.


Spoken like a true, bitter and twisted arrogant Port supporter.

Can you find anything else to whinge about? If your supporters spent more time trying to fix your clubs issues instead of blaming everyone else and in particular the North Adelaide Football Club for no good reason I might add, then you might not find yourselves in the shit pile you do at present.

Perhaps the PAMFC Management / Board should approach ours re making good business decisions e.g we could tell you how poor a choice the POW Hotel purchase was! Still you might not have to worry about that if the One Port deal goes through - that will be a Port Power asset then and you will be the poor little brother - once again.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Dutchy » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:16 am

Can someone confirm that Gerard has no involvement in Clipsal anymore?
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Wedgie » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:18 am

Dutchy wrote:Can someone confirm that Gerard has no involvement in Clipsal anymore?

He sold it a few years ago and kept the Mistral part of the business.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby on the rails » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:22 am

Wedgie wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Can someone confirm that Gerard has no involvement in Clipsal anymore?

He sold it a few years ago and kept the Mistral part of the business.


Which is part of the Gerard Corporation and is in fact a bigger business than when he owned Clipsal.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:23 am

Wedgie wrote:
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:There's no rules stopping SANFL clubs associate with other sporting club. There is a rule that currently stops Port and the Power from merging though (for a least a few more hours anyway).
No new rules at all.
As stated before SANFL clubs have previously had associations with many other clubs.

If the Port members went out and bought a club they could afford like a bridge club or a connect 4 board I'm sure the NAFC would have no objections. ;)


Might as well buy a club, sure cant buy ( or even fall arse backwards ) into a Premiership.


Exactly! :lol:


:lol: By the look of otr's comments, perhaps Gerard could shell out for a sense of humour or two.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Dutchy » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:26 am

I want a North Adelaide v Port Power preseason game, reckon you could pack out Alberton with this clash! :lol:
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:27 am

on the rails wrote:
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:There's no rules stopping SANFL clubs associate with other sporting club. There is a rule that currently stops Port and the Power from merging though (for a least a few more hours anyway).
No new rules at all.
As stated before SANFL clubs have previously had associations with many other clubs.

If the Port members went out and bought a club they could afford like a bridge club or a connect 4 board I'm sure the NAFC would have no objections. ;)


Might as well buy a club, sure cant buy ( or even fall arse backwards ) into a Premiership.


Spoken like a true, bitter and twisted arrogant Port supporter.

Can you find anything else to whinge about? If your supporters spent more time trying to fix your clubs issues instead of blaming everyone else and in particular the North Adelaide Football Club for no good reason I might add, then you might not find yourselves in the **** pile you do at present.

Perhaps the PAMFC Management / Board should approach ours re making good business decisions e.g we could tell you how poor a choice the POW Hotel purchase was! Still you might not have to worry about that if the One Port deal goes through - that will be a Port Power asset then and you will be the poor little brother - once again.


Financial member of both the PAFC and PAMFC. Season ticket holder to both the PAFC and PAMFC. Regularly purchase merchandise from the clubs. Regularly patronise the Prince of Wales and the Port Club. Gave a significant ( compared to my income ) financial donation to the PAMFC at the start of 2010.

I think I'm pulling my weight.


LMFAO - A good business decision would be to stop wasting big $$ on mugs who cant play/coach and spend some time developing the most important thing in a football club, the team on the field.

* Just read Dutchy's comment *

That would be great! Gerard could shout us all a snag and onions! :lol:
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Dutchy » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:31 am

Booney wrote:[
LMFAO - A good business decision would be to stop wasting big $$ on mugs who cant play/coach and spend some time developing the most important thing in a football club, the team on the field.



Didnt your club just re employ one of them?
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:54 am

on the rails wrote:North won't - Glenn Elliott will. As well as a CEO's Salary at North, he also receives (to his family trust company) consultant fees from both Grand North and the Northern Tavern at present. The same applies to his wife in her marketing / sponsorship role. This arrangement has caused concern to many at the NAFC and has done so for a number of years.


On the surface that appears completely shonky especially with family members involved. Not a good look.

Any chance independently minded people will be running for the Board this year?
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby on the rails » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:02 am

topsywaldron wrote:
on the rails wrote:North won't - Glenn Elliott will. As well as a CEO's Salary at North, he also receives (to his family trust company) consultant fees from both Grand North and the Northern Tavern at present. The same applies to his wife in her marketing / sponsorship role. This arrangement has caused concern to many at the NAFC and has done so for a number of years.


On the surface that appears completely shonky especially with family members involved. Not a good look.

Any chance independently minded people will be running for the Board this year?



Good question but the last time the members tried to even up the Board bias Bohdan ran off to Gerard in tears and then we the members got sent the blackmail letter! I would think that would happen again if the present Board didn't like certain nominees running against them?
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby on the rails » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:08 am

Booney wrote: LMFAO - A good business decision would be to stop wasting big $$ on mugs who cant play/coach and spend some time developing the most important thing in a football club, the team on the field.


Is that earth shattering statement based on the present Magpies or the one that used to be a SANFL powerhouse?

As for wasting big $$$ on mugs - have you checked your list in recent years re the big $$$ recruits who were duds LOL :D ?
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Macca19 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:08 am

From Norths website announcement that never was:

There are many variables in terms of how each SANFL Club conducts its’ business, however the sanctioning of a merger/business arrangement for any Club has the potential to create an uneven SANFL playing field. Some of the concerns behind this position, but not limited to same, are as follows:

•Direct reduction in administration costs, not available to all SANFL Clubs
•Access to AFL Club membership data bases , within Adelaide that is 30,000 plus
•Access to potential sponsors, direct, linked or perceived. This is particularly relevant when one considers the lesser commercial appeal of a standalone SANFL Club
•Access to a wide range of football operation services
We well understand that assurances shall be offered, however history shows that assurances are always diluted over time.


Dont know how the people running the North Adelaide Football Club could have written this announcement with a straight face.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby on the rails » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:12 am

Macca19 wrote:From Norths website announcement that never was:

There are many variables in terms of how each SANFL Club conducts its’ business, however the sanctioning of a merger/business arrangement for any Club has the potential to create an uneven SANFL playing field. Some of the concerns behind this position, but not limited to same, are as follows:

•Direct reduction in administration costs, not available to all SANFL Clubs
•Access to AFL Club membership data bases , within Adelaide that is 30,000 plus
•Access to potential sponsors, direct, linked or perceived. This is particularly relevant when one considers the lesser commercial appeal of a standalone SANFL Club
•Access to a wide range of football operation services
We well understand that assurances shall be offered, however history shows that assurances are always diluted over time.


Referenced to a merger with a club playing the same code in a higher profile and funded league. Obviously you are too blinded in your hatred for the NAFC to realise Adelaide United play a completlely different code??? :roll:

Good try but back to the drawing board for you!
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby ca » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:15 am

on the rails wrote:
Macca19 wrote:From Norths website announcement that never was:

There are many variables in terms of how each SANFL Club conducts its’ business, however the sanctioning of a merger/business arrangement for any Club has the potential to create an uneven SANFL playing field. Some of the concerns behind this position, but not limited to same, are as follows:

•Direct reduction in administration costs, not available to all SANFL Clubs
•Access to AFL Club membership data bases , within Adelaide that is 30,000 plus
•Access to potential sponsors, direct, linked or perceived. This is particularly relevant when one considers the lesser commercial appeal of a standalone SANFL Club
•Access to a wide range of football operation services
We well understand that assurances shall be offered, however history shows that assurances are always diluted over time.


Referenced to a merger with a club playing the same code in a higher profile and funded league. Obviously you are too blinded in your hatred for the NAFC to realise Adelaide United play a completlely different code??? :roll:

Good try but back to the drawing board for you!


I have heard a few Port people make the same comments as Macca19, but surely they are very different situations and you really can’t compare the two. It will be interesting to see how it all works.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:18 am

on the rails wrote:
Booney wrote: LMFAO - A good business decision would be to stop wasting big $$ on mugs who cant play/coach and spend some time developing the most important thing in a football club, the team on the field.


Is that earth shattering statement based on the present Magpies or the one that used to be a SANFL powerhouse?

As for wasting big $$$ on mugs - have you checked your list in recent years re the big $$$ recruits who were duds LOL :D ?


If you can tell me who we have wasdted "Big $$" on I'd be wanting to know where the "Big $$" came from...! ;)
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Jase » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:29 am

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redden whites wrote:What about Griffen and his comments linking Adel Utd and Adel City as we . "we used to win grand finals regularly" :evil: :evil:
Sorry Greg NFI, there are about 10,000 we's attend each week today who were not prepared to sit with fellow soccer fans with Olive skin and watch a side that one year had 7 players play in a NSL socceroos team classed as a full international.
"We " my friggin arse Pal.


Agreed, comparing the Adelaide City who had success on the field especiay in big matches when they were the underdogs and are doing well financially with the choking and broke AU is ridiculous.

Geez, I miss the days when Adelaide had a soccer club on the national stage to be proud of.


Yeah you're right, those two Asian Champions League appearances were a disgrace, winning the Premiership Plate, two grand final appearances (both loses, the 1st embarassing, the 2nd a travesty of justice)... They should be ashamed of themselves indeed...

Clown... :roll: :roll:
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Wedgie » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:37 am

You could sum that up in a more succint manner: "No championship"
Tell me how they did in the Finals of each of those comps.
I'm sure Glenelg supporters are real happy about their last 3 years too.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Macca19 » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:39 am

on the rails wrote:
Macca19 wrote:From Norths website announcement that never was:

There are many variables in terms of how each SANFL Club conducts its’ business, however the sanctioning of a merger/business arrangement for any Club has the potential to create an uneven SANFL playing field. Some of the concerns behind this position, but not limited to same, are as follows:

•Direct reduction in administration costs, not available to all SANFL Clubs
•Access to AFL Club membership data bases , within Adelaide that is 30,000 plus
•Access to potential sponsors, direct, linked or perceived. This is particularly relevant when one considers the lesser commercial appeal of a standalone SANFL Club
•Access to a wide range of football operation services
We well understand that assurances shall be offered, however history shows that assurances are always diluted over time.


Referenced to a merger with a club playing the same code in a higher profile and funded league. Obviously you are too blinded in your hatred for the NAFC to realise Adelaide United play a completlely different code??? :roll:

Good try but back to the drawing board for you!


Typical of a Port hater to push the hypocrisy aside completely out of hand. Why does it matter that its a different code? North supposedly have an issue with SANFL clubs cutting admin costs and opening themselves up to sponsorship links that not all SANFL clubs have the option of....and they go and do the same thing.

And really....why would I hate North Adelaide? Theyve given me years of joy!

PS: Adelaide United have done well and have been a consistent player over the past few years...but theres no denying their big game results have been disastrous (cue 119 etc.)
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby cripple » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:40 am

SDK wrote:WTF ! Sharing admin costs ? What using the same computer ?
Magpies and Power are both football clubs and will use the same training facilities and gym ect ect. same common interest supporter base.
What the hell has soccer got to do with Roosters football ? Do they pull the goal posts down on Wednesdays ?
Apart from our ethnic brothers what football supporter has any interest in soccer. Like watching paint dry !
Dual membership of the best game on earth with the most boring meaninless game of all time ?
WTF does Glenn Elliott know about soccer ??????????????

Smacks of a hidden agenda to me.


You can count me as one, and heaps of my mates at least. Whilst not all are overly concerned about the a-league, the EPL is massive and many members of gen y cant get enough if it. Times have changed.
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Re: Adelaide United - the North Adelaide connection

Postby Wedgie » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:44 am

LOL, soccer would suit Gen Y, a perfect match!
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