Rd 14 Norwood v West Post Game Reviews

[bloods08]

Westies fans will watch with interest the outcome of Schmidt’s report. If he is let off then the umpire should be dropped, such was the impact of his decision on the game.

Why? The decision was correct, it's only whether it was reportable that is contentious. Jonas was put down after having taken a mark, this always has been, and always will be a 25 metre penalty. Then the player went on with it resulting in further penalty. The outcome of the report has no bearing whatsoever with the penalties or the outcome of the game.

They don't drop umpires for reporting a player who gets off.

I think you will find it was a straight 50m penalty but I agree it was there.

The umpire shouldn't get dropped for that decision though. Maybe for some others throughout the game .

[Rik E Boy]

Thanks for your usual irrelevant reply, Centurion.

PS: I wasn't impressed with the Norwood captain shouting a four letter word to the grandstand crowd with a minute or two to go.

Average.

OFFS, lighten up please, I try to see the lighter side of everything, don't take everything so seriously. You are dead for a very long time

THESE ROMANS ARE CRAZY!

regards,

REB

[whufc]

:lol:

West Adelaide you are a disgrace, great, watchable style of footy you have.

Rubbish game, rubbish skills.

Hughes broke the game open with 2 third quarter goals. Lower, Puopolo and Campbell excellent in the midfield, McGuiness a star in defence.

Norwood you are a disgrace, great, watchable style of footy you have.

As TNT stated you lot have struggled to kick 10 goals the last few weeks so its not just us.

As an aside, does anyone have the official free kick count for this match. Not the made up ones we'll see in the paper tomorrow.

Loved it how whenever Norwood went forward you didn't have a single forward past the centre of the ground. Every single time, 3 or 4 loose men standing in the hole.

Norwood did it a bit early, but then had more forwards the game wore on. West didn't change.

Nice way to stay in the game and limit the oppositions score, but you lost, so nicely done.

Oh oh your in trouble now NFC wait to be told how you know nothing about football West don't flood anymore than any other side, they are an attacking powerhouse and every team flood just as much as West despite scoring more points than them all season.

Good win to Norwood over the most boring side in the SANFL.

[Thiele]

does anybody know the result of the u/18s game?

West 10.7.67
Norwood 8.8.56

[redandblack]

no Legs fan has yet answered my assertion that you often started with 3 men behind the ball.

I agreed with you in my initial post r'n'b.

To my mind you're focussing on too narrow a definition of 'flooding'. Norwood do get extra numbers behind the ball however they attack more when they have it by running further and harder ahead of the play.

For me anyway that makes Norwood a more entertaining team to watch than Westies.

I acknowledge and respect your deep loyalty to your team, as I know you do mine, but I do have to say I admire your ability week in week out to watch what West dished up today.

On another point I think more should made of West's ill-discipline at crucial times, for example the late hit on Jonas that led to the goal that put us ahead, rather than the umpiring.

Well, leaving aside definitions of flooding, I have no trouble at all watching West each week. Why would I?

Many watched yesterday’s game and went home disgruntled, whether they won or lost. I saw a contest that I thought featured a Norwood side much harder at the footy than I’d seen for a long time. I saw my team put their heads over the ball all day, but just lack a little class and skill to win in the end. I saw an engrossing contest that wasn’t decided until late in the last quarter.

While so many only wanted to bemoan the low score, I saw plenty to keep me watching my team The alternative, not that I’m tempted, is to write my team (and the game) off, as many North ‘supporters’ are doing. I saw Ryan Anderson as our best, after being out for so long with injury. I saw Steve Morris as our second best, third game in after a knee reconstruction. I’m enjoying watching Jarrod Silvester becoming one of the best full-backs going around. I saw plenty of other reasons why I’d keep watching, not the least being that we’re on the way up and I see continuous improvement and 21 blokes having a go.

Yes, I’d like us to kick more goals. I’d like a key forward or two and another strong midfielder and if we did, perhaps we would. I know I’m wrong, of course, as all those people who see us once in a while know far better than me about our game and keep telling me we’re not kicking more goals because we’re flooding. I read an article during the week where almost all the SANFL coaches said that wasn’t so and I appreciate CK, mal and you correctly posting that both sides played men behind the ball. To me, it’s just the way footy’s played now, but what would the league coaches know?

Why do I keep watching Westies?

Because I enjoy watching them. Because I enjoy a contest and that’s what they’re giving me. If it’s good enough for Ryan Ferguson to keep playing for the jumper after being hospitalised twice this year, then it’s good enough for me to keep turning up, as I’ve done for longer than most on here.

It seems that so many left Norwood on Saturday unhappy. I was pissed off that we lost a game we could have won, but I wouldn’t have wanted to have spent my Saturday any differently, except for the result. As a bonus, I’d had time for a chat with several good Norwood footy people (including your good self, Mr Waldron) and now I get to look forward to next week’s game. (I have to say I wasn’t impressed by the comments of one Legs fan about our club on your site, but that’s your own site, so I’ll just put it away in the memory bank, SD….. I also gently suggest that to call Norwood's win a victory for football is just a little over the top).

That was my Saturday. Lucky enough to get a very close-up view and grateful for it.

So, that’s why I watch Westies. A great club, a club that’s had its highs and a lot more lows, but a club of so many wonderful football players and people.

So I’m naïve? Probably.

Rose coloured glasses? Certainly.

But I went home loving footy. My critics went home to whinge..

[White Line Fever]

Go Norwood 2nd on ladder, i might need to jump on the wagon and go see a few games.
Pretty hard when the majority of SANFL games are on at the same time as local footy.
Looking forward to retiring one day so my Saturday arvo's can be frothies on the hill!

[CK]

One general thought about the game, from close range - it was one of the more (legally) physical contests this year that I've seen. Some really good, hard, honest, physical clashes with players making the ball their object all day. A few big collisions in front of the stand rightly brought applause from both sets of supporters, with players prepared to put their bodies on the line throughout the day. Great advertisement for why SANFL is a far more superior game of football than what we see in AFL a number of times.

[fester69]

Magnificent post redandblack!!!!

[mal]

This happened after the game
WA went off first not one BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Red and Black every team zones and floods
Some more than others
WA consistently do it more than others [ in the games I watch them]
Its an acountable style of footy which has improved the respectability of the Flood and Tars and indeed has made them a respected opponent
That transition was a start for your club
But as I said preseason, after this season will WA barrackers expect a more loftier expectations adopting this style of footy ?

I will repeat on all flooders/zoners or whatever when it wins games [SK] its acceptable
When it improves teams [WA] its acceptable
When you are a good team that is playing ordinary [NA] it gets frustrating
Whenever the above teams have a bad year it is awful to watch

[Adelaide Hawk]

The thing that West Adelaide did that I liked was when they did bring the ball forward it was usually through the middle, quick and direct. They did the same against us at Richmond earlier in the year but had more talls up forward to take advantage of it. So the way they move the ball is very impressive, I just think they over-emphasize defence, and it is to their detriment. Still, coaching West is not my job, and if their supporters are happy with that, then who am I to argue?

[SDK]

If all teams played the style of football West Adelaide play then in a few years they would be playing to empty grounds.
The Norwood coaching staff knew what to expect and all we got out of that game was two points.
No entertainment.
No enjoyment.
No sense of victory.
That defensive bs will not win a premiership. Look at Centrals ...looks at Geelong !
Perhaps Andy Collins has to play that style when he has little talent at his disposal.
Perhaps West Adelaide would be better off when Andy goes back to Melbourne as rumored.

[whufc]

If all teams played the style of football West Adelaide play then in a few years they would be playing to empty grounds.
The Norwood coaching staff knew what to expect and all we got out of that game was two points.
No entertainment.
No enjoyment.
No sense of victory.
That defensive bs will not win a premiership. Look at Centrals ...looks at Geelong !
Perhaps Andy Collins has to play that style when he has little talent at his disposal.
Perhaps West Adelaide would be better off when Andy goes back to Melbourne as rumored.

That the sole reason im against constant flooding.

[nickname]

Great post R&B.

It was a horrible game to watch. The physicality was impressive but there was precious little entertainment value. But that, I'm afraid, is modern footy. AFL trends inevitably filter down to lower grades. Now that midfielders and forwards are expected to run into defence to help out, we can no longer leave a half-forward line and full forward line intact, bucking this trend, because the opposition will murder you around the ball, because they will have up to 6 more players there. We (SANFL clubs) can't expect to be immune from this effective defensive tactic. One of the only ways around this tactic discovered so far is high-risk playing on after taking possession and precision kicking. There's only a few AFL teams who can do it (and thus are worth watching). And it's a very big ask of semi-professional, 2nd tier players who, often, aren't playing AFL because of deficiencies like sub-standard kicking.

Unless two coaches ring each other during the week and agree to play their players in traditional positions, this is what we have to put up with for the time being.

Gavin Hughes kicked 2 goals from 50 metres (thus bypassing the congested forward lines) that seemed to come from nowhere. They were ultimately the difference at the end.

[redandblack]

If all teams played the style of football West Adelaide play then in a few years they would be playing to empty grounds.
The Norwood coaching staff knew what to expect and all we got out of that game was two points.
No entertainment.
No enjoyment.
No sense of victory.
That defensive bs will not win a premiership. Look at Centrals ...looks at Geelong !
Perhaps Andy Collins has to play that style when he has little talent at his disposal.
Perhaps West Adelaide would be better off when Andy goes back to Melbourne as rumored.

I'll say 3 things, SDK:

1 Read nicknames post to understand what's happening in SANFL football.

2 As for your statement about playing to empty grounds, perhaps you could explain how your argument stands up to West having a record increase in its crowds this year?

3 As for your humble statement about us having little talent, we play you again at Norwood in the last round.

[Adelaide Hawk]

As for your statement about playing to empty grounds, perhaps you could explain how your argument stands up to West having a record increase in its crowds this year?

Friday night games.

[SDK]

RedandBlack you misunderstand me. I was not referring to WA in particular, I meant if ALL teams played that style of football over time crowds would diminish. It is unattractive, and our great game should always be played in an attacking style.
The successful teams play attacking but hard tackling football.

[redandblack]

As for your statement about playing to empty grounds, perhaps you could explain how your argument stands up to West having a record increase in its crowds this year?

Friday night games.

The figures show it's not just that, AH.

[Psyber]

As for your statement about playing to empty grounds, perhaps you could explain how your argument stands up to West having a record increase in its crowds this year?

Friday night games.

The figures show it's not just that, AH.

The style has made Westies more competitive and meant closer games and a few wins. That has probably brought back some who had drifted away, and helped the numbers.
However, they will have to build from that and play a more attractive game that offers more hope of success to keep the increase going.

[topsywaldron]

Great posts r'n'b and in all fairness you could ask the same of me as to why I kept going week after week during Norwood's last decade. I'd probably share many of the same thoughts you explained above.

The week after losing by 158 points was a tough ask though.

[blood bath]

The tackle by Anderson? on Phillips on the Grandstand wing was one of the hardest tackles I have seen in years (AFL included). Thats what brings people through the gates.

Philosophical question: Would you rather your team win playing unattractive football or lose playing attacking football?