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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby doggies4eva » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:03 pm

csbowes wrote:
dedja wrote:Well played Sturt, while a bit of a scare in the end deserved the win.

See you next week. ;)

Either way... for the good of the SANFL... no, for the good of the world... one of us MUST win it.


I'm very confident one of you will win it - the Prelim Final that is :lol:
We used to be good :-(
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby holden78 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:36 pm

Any knobhead can make moves , how about a gameplan that challenges our opponent beyond the obvious for next year , oh thats right , you wont be around heh Ron ............ and thats why ! OUR skill level is quite average , and considering that Fuller was quite highly skilled himself as a player , he should be ashamed that our younger players skills are as poor as they are . Anybody can promote young guys from the twos , but Fairy , Daniel and Allmond have not improved any aspect of their skills one little bit since the season began ! That was I thought the job of a coach , so again bye bye Ron . His one BIG recruit Cheep , he left to rot in the twos again ....... ah Fuller youve reaped what you have sown , again ! Finally its has to be said once again we are the slowest overall of all the 9 clubs , thats our biggest problem by far .
centrecirclelegend wrote:mickyj........believe me there were many changes during the game made by Ron......

the Eagles won the second half....the move of McGregor forward made a difference.....players were kicking to the top of the square.....

it was bad kicking for goal that cost the Eagles today in the third.....scoreboard pressure is a must in finals......

we were again exposed by pace and Sturt breaking our takles in the first half.....

the to the players credit they rallied and gave it everything they had for the second half......

Rimmington and Grocke were clearly our best......

sadly lack of a good pre season, missed games and age caught up with a few today!

hopefully the seconds can take the Grand Final ia a couple of weeks time.....they blew Sturt of the ground in yesterdays game!
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:44 pm

I'll be an interested observer in 10 years time to see whether the Eagles have achieved more than in the past 10.

The demonising of Ron Fuller just astounds me. Shame, shame, shame. [-X
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby SnappyTom » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:08 pm

Good to see Candice Keller knows SANFL thoroughly too.
From the AdelaideNow WebSite:
"...Yesterday's 10-point loss to the Double Blues in the first semi-final was a "good parallel" for Fuller's career, he said. After starting slowly the Eagles stormed home to threaten Sturt for the win late in the third term. However, the fairytale finish was not to be for Fuller who coached the club to a premiership in 2006 and grand final berths in 2001, 2004 and 2005. The Eagles played in the finals series every year Fuller was at the helm."...

...and of 2008? Did we play a final 8 last season...
Sheesh!

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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Mickyj » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:49 pm

dedja wrote:I'll be an interested observer in 10 years time to see whether the Eagles have achieved more than in the past 10.

The demonising of Ron Fuller just astounds me. Shame, shame, shame. [-X


Well normally I wouldn't agree with holden78 but he is correct when he says we as a footy club are slow.Hell West Adelaide proved that twice this year.
Our skill level was well below that of the top 3 .thats a fact as sturt showed yesterday
Cheep was dropped to the two's fact.We can argue if he is a good player or not .But he could have got in and got the ball out of the packs sunday as he was doing that saturday at City mazda.i also think he might be carrying an injury perhaps a hamstring problem.

I think as a bargain basement buy when Halimton left he was the man for the job .Mind u more than 1 flag in his tenure would have been nice.
From a fans point of view(I defended Ron pre 2008 mainly at games) I think Ron was showing signs of tiring as a coach in 08.this seems to have carried through to 09 with out dated game plans no plan B except for Kenny Mac.And very very slow to make tactical moves . Plus some very strange team selections one week hard ball getters all get dropped the next all the ball receivers get dropped and the hard ball getters all come back in. :shock: One league player looked like he was refusing to talk to Ron when taken off the ground Sunday.

And I like you will be interested in the next 10 yrs at fortress woodville.
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Mickyj » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:49 pm

SnappyTom wrote:Good to see Candice Keller knows SANFL thoroughly too.
From the AdelaideNow WebSite:
"...Yesterday's 10-point loss to the Double Blues in the first semi-final was a "good parallel" for Fuller's career, he said. After starting slowly the Eagles stormed home to threaten Sturt for the win late in the third term. However, the fairytale finish was not to be for Fuller who coached the club to a premiership in 2006 and grand final berths in 2001, 2004 and 2005. The Eagles played in the finals series every year Fuller was at the helm."...

...and of 2008? Did we play a final 8 last season...
Sheesh!

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I did post a comment at Adelaide Now about that ST
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby purch » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:58 pm

holden78 wrote:Any knobhead can make moves , how about a gameplan that challenges our opponent beyond the obvious for next year , oh thats right , you wont be around heh Ron ............ and thats why ! OUR skill level is quite average , and considering that Fuller was quite highly skilled himself as a player , he should be ashamed that our younger players skills are as poor as they are . Anybody can promote young guys from the twos , but Fairy , Daniel and Allmond have not improved any aspect of their skills one little bit since the season began ! That was I thought the job of a coach , so again bye bye Ron . His one BIG recruit Cheep , he left to rot in the twos again ....... ah Fuller youve reaped what you have sown , again ! Finally its has to be said once again we are the slowest overall of all the 9 clubs , thats our biggest problem by far .


:roll: Geez, he should be ashamed? How about some kudos and respect for a bloke that has got you into 4 GFs this decade, won you a premiership just 3 years ago and has only missed finals once. He obviously knows how to bring through young players, recruit the right people, and keep a club at, or near, the top. Pretty impressive record I reakon.
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:05 pm

purch wrote:
holden78 wrote:Any knobhead can make moves , how about a gameplan that challenges our opponent beyond the obvious for next year , oh thats right , you wont be around heh Ron ............ and thats why ! OUR skill level is quite average , and considering that Fuller was quite highly skilled himself as a player , he should be ashamed that our younger players skills are as poor as they are . Anybody can promote young guys from the twos , but Fairy , Daniel and Allmond have not improved any aspect of their skills one little bit since the season began ! That was I thought the job of a coach , so again bye bye Ron . His one BIG recruit Cheep , he left to rot in the twos again ....... ah Fuller youve reaped what you have sown , again ! Finally its has to be said once again we are the slowest overall of all the 9 clubs , thats our biggest problem by far .


:roll: Geez, he should be ashamed? How about some kudos and respect for a bloke that has got you into 4 GFs this decade, won you a premiership just 3 years ago and has only missed finals once. He obviously knows how to bring through young players, recruit the right people, and keep a club at, or near, the top. Pretty impressive record I reakon.


Yep, that's not too bad a record in my eyes... I reckon a South or West supporter would be very, very happy to have a coach that could boast such a record...
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby spell_check » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:23 pm

Hey purch, were you one of those people who thought it was funny we kept losing finals to Central? Why should we accept that? Losing finals all the time?
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:31 pm

Cambridge Clarrie wrote:
purch wrote:
holden78 wrote:Any knobhead can make moves , how about a gameplan that challenges our opponent beyond the obvious for next year , oh thats right , you wont be around heh Ron ............ and thats why ! OUR skill level is quite average , and considering that Fuller was quite highly skilled himself as a player , he should be ashamed that our younger players skills are as poor as they are . Anybody can promote young guys from the twos , but Fairy , Daniel and Allmond have not improved any aspect of their skills one little bit since the season began ! That was I thought the job of a coach , so again bye bye Ron . His one BIG recruit Cheep , he left to rot in the twos again ....... ah Fuller youve reaped what you have sown , again ! Finally its has to be said once again we are the slowest overall of all the 9 clubs , thats our biggest problem by far .


:roll: Geez, he should be ashamed? How about some kudos and respect for a bloke that has got you into 4 GFs this decade, won you a premiership just 3 years ago and has only missed finals once. He obviously knows how to bring through young players, recruit the right people, and keep a club at, or near, the top. Pretty impressive record I reakon.


Yep, that's not too bad a record in my eyes... I reckon a South or West supporter would be very, very happy to have a coach that could boast such a record...


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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Country Cousin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:39 pm

I normally wouldn't bother to reply to such a ridiculous comment as that of holden78 about Ron Fuller. But he sounds just like the fool sitting a few rows behind me yesterday, who started loudly running down the Eagles players almost from the first bounce. He was wearing their colours but I certainly wouldn't call him a supporter. I've long regarded Fuller as one of the best coaches in the SANFL and as a Sturt supporter it's no surprise at all that both Macgowan and Norman trained under him. Congratulations on a fine career Ron.
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Mickyj » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:42 pm

spell_check wrote:Hey purch, were you one of those people who thought it was funny we kept losing finals to Central? Why should we accept that? Losing finals all the time?


here here Spell check losing most finals is not acceptable in my book.I would enjoy being like centrals 10yrs 10 GFs and won most of them!!
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Mickyj » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:46 pm

Country Cousin wrote:that both Macgowan and Norman trained under him.


I spoke with the pairs Fathers when rick was coaching sturt and they claimed credit for the 06 flag.and according to both dads the pair needed to gang up on Ron to get moves made .
In 06 Ron was reported to have told people he was retiring from coaching everything looked set for Macgowan and Norman to step in and take over the reins .History tells us this didn't happen .
Would the pair have had better success than Ron at oval ave we will never know.

Word around the traps is players who were leaving the Club are now staying because ron is gone.

New era will begin soon then we may well be able to beat sturt again ;)
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:53 pm

Ok, whatever you guys think of Ron Fuller and your club is history, I think he's done a good job you've got a flag from him, never bottomed out and always been competitive. Now that he's gone surely you can afford him some respect.
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Columbo » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:45 pm

holden78 wrote:Any knobhead can make moves , how about a gameplan that challenges our opponent beyond the obvious for next year , oh thats right , you wont be around heh Ron ............ and thats why ! OUR skill level is quite average , and considering that Fuller was quite highly skilled himself as a player , he should be ashamed that our younger players skills are as poor as they are . Anybody can promote young guys from the twos , but Fairy , Daniel and Allmond have not improved any aspect of their skills one little bit since the season began ! That was I thought the job of a coach , so again bye bye Ron . His one BIG recruit Cheep , he left to rot in the twos again ....... ah Fuller youve reaped what you have sown , again ! Finally its has to be said once again we are the slowest overall of all the 9 clubs , thats our biggest problem by far .


I wondered how long it would take.....

No comments about Sam Fairclough last week after he put his body on the line on more than one occasion including right at the end to keep us in the game, Jarred Allmond obviously has shocking skills so much so that he was given the League Star Search Award, and maybe Nathan Daniel has had an up and down year but he has now had a year of league footy and that should only make him a better player for next year. As for Cheepy can see him developing a bit like Rimington has over the past couple of seasons, maybe under a new coach that may happen a bit sooner.

As i said in a previous thread i look forward to lots of positive comments from you next season :shock:
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby once_were_warriors » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:26 pm

[quote="holden78"]Any knobhead can make moves , how about a gameplan that challenges our opponent beyond the obvious for next year , oh thats right , you wont be around heh Ron ............ and thats why ! OUR skill level is quite average , and considering that Fuller was quite highly skilled himself as a player , he should be ashamed that our younger players skills are as poor as they are . Anybody can promote young guys from the twos , but Fairy , Daniel and Allmond have not improved any aspect of their skills one little bit since the season began ! That was I thought the job of a coach , so again bye bye Ron . His one BIG recruit Cheep , he left to rot in the twos again ....... ah Fuller youve reaped what you have sown , again ! Finally its has to be said once again we are the slowest overall of all the 9 clubs , thats our biggest problem by far .


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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Mickyj » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:31 pm

Columbo wrote:
I wondered how long it would take.....

No comments about Sam Fairclough last week after he put his body on the line on more than one occasion including right at the end to keep us in the game, Jarred Allmond obviously has shocking skills so much so that he was given the League Star Search Award, and maybe Nathan Daniel has had an up and down year but he has now had a year of league footy and that should only make him a better player for next year. As for Cheepy can see him developing a bit like Rimington has over the past couple of seasons, maybe under a new coach that may happen a bit sooner.

As i said in a previous thread i look forward to lots of positive comments from you next season :shock:


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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby Mickyj » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:36 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:Ok, whatever you guys think of Ron Fuller and your club is history, I think he's done a good job you've got a flag from him, never bottomed out and always been competitive. Now that he's gone surely you can afford him some respect.


Perhaps rather than fans speak with a senior player or two .
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Re: Sturt vs Eagles 1st Semi Final Review

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:52 pm

Just out of interest (for some reason this intrigues me even though we are going off topic) for those that believe that Ron had run his course before he decided to leave the job, what position did you expect the Eagles to finish year?

And what position do you expect to finish next year?
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