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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby am Bays » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:14 pm

goraw wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:Weather wasn't that bad.
Reilly played well.
Sturt's pressure and tackling was intense.
Sturt's skills were very good.
Centrals were a rabble.
Sturt outmarked, outran and played centrals into the ground.
Smithy gave back a bit of what he got, nothing that a Gowans wouldn't have done.
Every dog has it's day and I think the Gowans' day is up. Only the umpires can help them now.


the only day the gowans day is up is when they retire, thats a stupid comment.


Agreed write teh Gowan's and Centrals off at your peril, IMO.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:21 pm

Well from what I saw today I'd be surprised if they go another season, so i think their time is about done. Sturt looked pretty fast against Centrals today and on more than a few occasions either Gowans were made to look pretty slow, so the only thing that I can see thay have to add to their team is experience, niggle and a bit of hard in and under. In short Centrals' older players were found wanting and were showed up. To centrals credit I thought they were going to lose all composure and go the biff but they held their heads pretty well.
And I've never written off Centrals, never, how could you.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Bluedemon » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:24 pm

Brucetiki wrote:First, well done to Sturt. Played some fantastic football today, and taught Centrals a lesson.

As for Centrals, they were a disgrace today. No other word can describe that disgraceful performance. 2 goals after quarter time (and one was from a Sturt brain fade) - PATHETIC. How many times did Sturt have loose players inside their 50. How many times did Centrals kick it straight to a Sturt player. Am I right in saying our last inside 50 for the second quarter was at the 4 minute mark (when Griffin kicked it out on the full). How often did the players not even attempt to make an effort. Hell, we were slower than Tiger Airways preparing a plane for boarding!

To say 'None played well' for Centrals was an understatement. The players should be ashamed of themselves for that effort.


That was bucket McKenzie that kicked it out on the full. That is the best 4 quarter effort that Sturt have played for a long time, ran in numbers and put the forwards pressure was good. Centrals werent helped with the 2 injuries in the first quarter but they still had 19 other players that should have done a good job. Quarter time it was set up for a cracker of a game but Sturt just blew that in the 2nd quarter.
Never write the dogs off though, it is not the finals time yet, that is where they are dangerous. Next 2 weeks for Sturt are some crucial games against North and Glenelg, it would be good to beat those 2 teams before we have a bye.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Voice » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:25 pm

Enjoyable day except for a Centrals twit hitting one of the Sturt Cheer Squad members in the back of the head :roll: . Real tough guy, punching someone when they're not looking.
Kudos to the cheer squad for not retaliating though.
Fun to beat the doggies like we did today but getting ahead of ourselves would not be a good idea because I don't see us being a true contender until we can knock off Glenelg and Centrals consistently (Glenelg we can't beat at all :roll: )
Having said this, nobody saw us being in this position and the new blood in our squad are really shining.
Having more fun this year than what I expected ;)
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Blue Boy » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:51 pm

Had a very good day - thanks boys !!!
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Big Phil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:31 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:Well from what I saw today I'd be surprised if they go another season, so i think their time is about done. Sturt looked pretty fast against Centrals today and on more than a few occasions either Gowans were made to look pretty slow, so the only thing that I can see thay have to add to their team is experience, niggle and a bit of hard in and under. In short Centrals' older players were found wanting and were showed up. To centrals credit I thought they were going to lose all composure and go the biff but they held their heads pretty well.
And I've never written off Centrals, never, how could you.


James Gowans did look pretty slow on the boundary line, showered up and in his causual attire after leaving the game late in the first quarter due to a game ending injury. Chris was down on his recent form today but so were the other fit 17 Centrals blokes on the field. I'm not sure if they are past it just yet Cutterman when they have been regularly getting in the Dogs best players in their first 7 wins of the year and were good enough to make the initial State squad. As a few have said, write the Gowans and Centrals off at your own peril, the real test will be come September.

Absolute 100% full credit to Sturt today, very much enjoyed the way they went about there footy today, very skillfull, team orientated and hard at side that exposed a few weaknesses in a severely undermanned Dogs outfit. Long way to go for Centrals based on today's performance and along with last week against the Eagles and again today, questions have to be asked of the players and where they are at in terms of mind set.

Losing J.Gowans, Sibenaler and Hardy wasn't the difference in the result at the end of the day but it meant the rest of the Dogs structure up field suffered due to the re-shuffling Roy Laird had to do. The dissapointing thing for Centrals after 1/4 time would have to be their lack of intensity around the ball and again, their skill level under pressure (credit to Sturt there) was very poor and is an area they have again been exposed and need to address immediately.

Once again, can't speak highly enough of the quality way in which Sturt went about it today. Have seen them live 4 or 5 times this year and they have won games comfortably without putting close to 4 quarters of consistant football together. Today, Luke Norman would have been extremely proud of the solid, 4 quarter effort put in by all 21 blokes who wore a Double Blue jumper today but now the onus would be on them to perform like that on a more consistant basis from week to week.

One player in particular Centrals have missed in recent weeks is their co-captain Paul Thomas. By no means does 1 player make a difference to a side that performed the way Central did today but his desire, commitment and determination is something the Dogs are sorely missing at present. The one thing that has so far and will continue to test Central is injuries. In recent years they have only had 1 or 2 serious injuries and hardly copped 'regular' injuries throughout the minor round.

So far this year they have had players unavailable at various times like Paul Thomas (fractured finger), Andrew Hayes (back now but just playing 2nd game after groin injury), Daniel Havelberg (hamstring), Richie Cochrane (hamstring), Ian Callinan (had hamstring issues earlier in the year), Ash Duncan (hamstring), Trent Goodrem (ankle), Daniel Schell (missed the start of the year with hamstring/groin), James Moss (hip) and now losing Hardy, J.Gowans and Sibenaler the Dogs are experiencing a higher number of injuries to key personel than in more recent years. At no stage this year I think they have had their best available 21 on the park.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby goraw » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:38 pm

with the need for rotations in the modern game, with the injuries the dogs had, is there a need for four on the bench now? obv it crippled the rotation to the max. i think yes.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby SnappyTom » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:46 pm

goraw wrote:with the need for rotations in the modern game, with the injuries the dogs had, is there a need for four on the bench now? obv it crippled the rotation to the max. i think yes.


Rotations are optional, not manatory.
Three on the bench is fine, IMHO.

A lot of hoo-haa being winded in this thread. We lost to the Iggles by an almost identical margin last season, and didn't have injuries to the extent (prior to and during game) that we're currently experiencing. Sturt got us at the right time, in the right mindset today, best team whipped our collective butts, simple as that. 2 premierhip points and some % to Sturt.

Goodrem, Thomas, Havelberg, Moss, Cochrane and Duncan all missing from this side, and the bye comes at the right time.

...and for those humoring the 'Chambers versus opposition' thoughts, yes in jest primarily - why not get a comparison as to how he has historically gone post-regular season, when it really counts. That's the premiership table worth seeing. :D :D

IIRC, we're 7-2, with a good %. I'll take that.

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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby leggies » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:49 pm

stampy wrote:i think you dont have to be einstein to realise that everyone but dogs fans are happy about this, let it continue, we need change in this comp.

Yes!!

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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Big Phil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:51 pm

goraw wrote:with the need for rotations in the modern game, with the injuries the dogs had, is there a need for four on the bench now? obv it crippled the rotation to the max. i think yes.


ABSOLUTELY !!

I pushed this issue on this very forum last year and in particular, the then North coach Andrew Jarman and Port coach Tim Ginevar strongly agreed that the concept needs to be adopted in the SANFL.

These 2 particular coaches were of this opinion more so because there side experienced a game, like Centrals today, where they had no choice but to return an injured player to the field because they had no one else to replace them.

I think I raised a poll on this topic, may have to give it a bump to see the opinions of others on this topic as I think it is relevant at present. We, the SANFL, are the only State League in the nation that still only has 3 interchange players.

By no means do I think we shoudl be doing this here so that we are in line with the rest of the nation and the AFL, my point and strength of opinion in this matter is more to do with being able to cover 3 injuries in a game (which I admit doesn't happen all that often) but mainly to give another player an opportunity to play for their club at league level.

With the change in format of our SANFL underage competitions, up to 30 young kids have fallen out of the system. Surely having a 4th interchange player will give that extra player an opportunity but help cover situations like today where Centrals had none on the bench.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby smac » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:54 pm

goraw wrote:with the need for rotations in the modern game, with the injuries the dogs had, is there a need for four on the bench now? obv it crippled the rotation to the max. i think yes.

And with the ball going out of bounds in every game of footy I have ever seen, I think the grounds should be bigger.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Big Phil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:27 pm

As an interesting side note...

Did anyone see the Shitzu that escaped the clutches of it's owner over neat the scorebaord during the last term of the reserves game and run onto the oval while the game was in progress ?

First of all, how the hell was the woman allowed to bring a dog to the football (unless she is vision impared but the breed of Dog didn't indicate) and why did she not have it on a lead ?

I guess in the mutt's defence, it is a dog park during the week and would have been in doggie heaven with all the smells the ground would have offered from fellow users of the ground !!
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby dedja » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:31 pm

Big Phil wrote:As an interesting side note...

Did anyone see the little Shitzu dog that escaped the clutches of it's owner during the last term of the reserves game and run onto the oval ???

First of all, how the hell was the woman allowed to bring a dog to the footy (unless she is vision impared) and why did she not have it on a lead the whole time ???

I guess in the Dogs defence, it is a dog park during the week and would have been in Doggie heaven with all the smells the ground would have offered from fellow muts !!


Mate, maybe she was just taking the mutt for a run off the leash and didn't realise they play footy there sometimes? ;)
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Big Phil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:40 pm

dedja wrote:
Big Phil wrote:As an interesting side note...

Did anyone see the little Shitzu dog that escaped the clutches of it's owner during the last term of the reserves game and run onto the oval ???

First of all, how the hell was the woman allowed to bring a dog to the footy (unless she is vision impared) and why did she not have it on a lead the whole time ???

I guess in the Dogs defence, it is a dog park during the week and would have been in Doggie heaven with all the smells the ground would have offered from fellow muts !!


Mate, maybe she was just taking the mutt for a run off the leash and didn't realise they play footy there sometimes? ;)


Well she was with the corporate tent that was positioned between the scoreboard and southern goals on the grassy outer. Again, the point I raise, is how on earth was she allowed to bring the dog into the arena in the first place ???
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby dedja » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:43 pm

the joker wrote:
am Bays wrote:
purch wrote:
the joker wrote:couple of massive weeks for the Roosters they will be second if they win the next two weeks and Glenelg beat Sturt


Relying on one opposition team to beat another, for a chance to go second on the ladder, sounds like a marvellous position to be.


Umm are West going to beat Glenelg?? I can't see North getting to 2nd until the end of June - pending results.
nah west dont have to beat glenelg,
it will be
Glenelg 9 and 2
North 7 and 3
Sturt 7 and 4
Centrals 7 and 3
eagles 6 and 4 and 1 draw. depending on percentage
if North Beat Sturt and Centrals, Glenelg beat West and Sturt and Centrals have a Bye then play North with the doggies and Roosters one game up their sleeve


LOL, and how many weeks before you're top?
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby dedja » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:45 pm

Big Phil wrote:Well she was with the corporate tent that was positioned between the scoreboard and southern goals on the grassy outer. Again, the point I raise, is how on earth was she allowed to bring the dog into the arena in the first place ???


I agree BP, and how did plugger's pig get on the SCG years ago?
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Big Phil » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:56 pm

dedja wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Well she was with the corporate tent that was positioned between the scoreboard and southern goals on the grassy outer. Again, the point I raise, is how on earth was she allowed to bring the dog into the arena in the first place ???


I agree BP, and how did plugger's pig get on the SCG years ago?


Who knows mate, but that very same comparison was raised during the day today. Silly from the people involved to bring their dog to an SANFL game, not sure what they were thinking ?
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby Jimmy » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:14 am

SnappyTom wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
SnappyTom wrote:
purch wrote:
Hey spelly, could you post a Chambers + all other clubs "premiership table"? Might be interesting
:D


Centrals premierships in Chambers time - 5
Chambers premierships with $turt - 1
Eagles premierships in Chambers time - 1
Glenelg, West, South, Port, Norwood and North all behind Chambers.

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simple it is...when all you needed to do was put a '1' in the chambers column...back on the yellow bus ST, its milk time ;)


I stand corrected, Jimmy. '1' it is, he must have made the difference on that day late in 2002.

Premiership table updated.

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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby dedja » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:23 am

I was at the Bay today so didn't see the game, but obviously from the score Sturt must have played exceptionally well.

I was somewhat surprised then when listening to LifeFM on the way home that most of their team picked North to beat Sturt in the next round.

Good to see most of the Sturt fans not getting too carried away ... enjoy the moment though.

To the Doggies, on a downer but expect them to bounce back hard.
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Re: RD10 Sturt v Centrals MATCH REVIEW

Postby purch » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:40 am

Big Phil wrote:As an interesting side note...

Did anyone see the Shitzu that escaped the clutches of it's owner over neat the scorebaord during the last term of the reserves game and run onto the oval while the game was in progress ?

First of all, how the hell was the woman allowed to bring a dog to the football (unless she is vision impared but the breed of Dog didn't indicate) and why did she not have it on a lead ?

I guess in the mutt's defence, it is a dog park during the week and would have been in doggie heaven with all the smells the ground would have offered from fellow users of the ground !!


Seeing it was the ressies, it probably got excited about so many bulldog "bitches" ;)
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