AFL Reserves Discussion...

[beenreal]

Who will be boycotting games when there team plays against the crows and powers reserves?

just the ones with no loyalty to there club. I also wonder if they would show up if they ever played a grand final against a crows or port team.

I know hundreds of people that are waking away from this sport all together because of the decision to have crows and power reserves in the SANFL. I sure I know I won't be attending another SANFL game because of it.

Although disappointing, that's your choice. It is clear that like many misguided souls, you follow colours, not the club.

I'll be there on the terraces, like I have been for 40 years watching the Port Adelaide Football Club, playing and winning in both the $ANFL and the AFL.

[heater31]

Unfortunately I think you maybe standing on those terraces by yourself....

[Booney]

When the umpire holds the ball aloft to start Round 1 in 2014, there will be people there watching, make no mistake. There might not be as many, but there will still be people there.

[bays2011]

When the umpire holds the ball aloft to start Round 1 in 2014, there will be people there watching, make no mistake. There might not be as many, but there will still be people there.

So as long as three men and a dog are there for round 1 next year all will be well? That's a relief. Maybe the comp isn't rooted after all.

[Booney]

When the umpire holds the ball aloft to start Round 1 in 2014, there will be people there watching, make no mistake. There might not be as many, but there will still be people there.

So as long as three men and a dog are there for round 1 next year all will be well? That's a relief. Maybe the comp isn't rooted after all.

Well done, thats exactly what I meant.

[BrekkyDJ]

I guess the poor crowd today was all the crows fauilt

Yep ur probably right

Couldn't imagine holdens getting a huge turnout to anything these days with most people knowing its dead within a year or two

Alot of people I spoke to at my work weren't interested, common line was

'The comp is f**ked next year I'm not wasting my time or spending my money on $7.60 beers'

$7.80 or $8.20 for super dry.

Your kidding me! All year long at Port Melbourne (during Home and Away) we charged $4.50 for a can of VB or Carlton Draught.

Price went up to $5 during the finals.

[heater31]

I guess the poor crowd today was all the crows fauilt

Yep ur probably right

Couldn't imagine holdens getting a huge turnout to anything these days with most people knowing its dead within a year or two

Alot of people I spoke to at my work weren't interested, common line was

'The comp is f**ked next year I'm not wasting my time or spending my money on $7.60 beers'

$7.80 or $8.20 for super dry.

Your kidding me! All year long at Port Melbourne (during Home and Away) we charged $4.50 for a can of VB or Carlton Draught.

Price went up to $5 during the finals.

All canned beer prices have been around the $6.

My Club Sturt were the worst ($7 I think) I found, but we have no money so understandable.

Cheapest was the West Adelaide Past Players bar at Richmond.

Bring your credit card champ when you come over in a couple of weeks.....

[UK Fan]

Prospect Rsl $4 beers

[UK Fan]

Who will be boycotting games when there team plays against the crows and powers reserves?

just the ones with no loyalty to there club. I also wonder if they would show up if they ever played a grand final against a crows or port team.

I know hundreds of people that are waking away from this sport all together because of the decision to have crows and power reserves in the SANFL. I sure I know I won't be attending another SANFL game because of it.

Agreed, but we are all terrible fans when compared to the awesomeness that is Tassie Blues.

[Jim05]

Your kidding me! All year long at Port Melbourne (during Home and Away) we charged $4.50 for a can of VB or Carlton Draught.

Price went up to $5 during the finals.

Still over the odds for that cats piss

[SimonH]

Is this a sign of things to come?
In the WAFL today minor Premiers Claremont were thrashed by the West Coast Eagles reserves and bundled out of the finals. The Eagles Reserves will now play in the Grand Final next week

East Perth looked like a different side today, Claremont just couldn't match them physically.

I think it's a sign of things to come in the WAFL but the SANFL may be a different case with the reserves sides being filled with top up players.

But isn't there only a handful of Eagles in that team? Its not a full AFL side until next year?

So why were they physically superior? Can we be sure it wasn't just a shocker from Claremont?

Just curious on your thoughts...

Simple. East Perth are a full-blown WAFL club with its own roster of established WAFL-standard players, including its 2 listed best players for the PF being state players (one of them the state captain) in the WAFL team that beat the VFL earlier in the year. Light years away from a team that has topups comprised entirely of fringe (reserves) players or ammos.

I'm not necessarily advocating for one system or another (I'm only advocating that the whole 'AFL reserves in state comps' idea is a dud), but that's your difference right there.

[Aerie]

Some of the main concerns people have with this concept revolve around:

1) AFL teams being too strong
2) AFL teams being too weak
3) AFL teams resting players at the end of the season, making an AFL team in finals a farce
4) Having our season shortened and therefore competing with AFL finals, Ammos etc when previously we've at least had GF week on its own

There has been talk of an 18 round h&a season with everyone playing each other twice.

I would have a 22 round season, including a state game and with three split rounds (June/July/August when the weather is crap).

The season starts March 21st - the same week Crows and Power play their Round 1 game.
The minor round finishes September 12th - the weekend of the AFL Semi Finals.

Crows play 4 SANFL teams 3 times and Port play the other 4 SANFL teams 3 times - swapped over each year. One of the 3 games played against an AFL club is fixtured in the SANFL clubs country zone, therefore every SANFL team gets a game in it's country zone against an AFL team each season.

The Crows and Power are drawn to play the lowest teams in the final 2 rounds of the season, as that is likely when they'll be at their weakest.

The AFL teams only compete for the minor premiership. They know exactly how long their season will be - hopefully not too long for the Campbell Heath's of this world.

The SANFL finals are a top 4 (the top 4 SANFL teams) over 3 weeks. Semi Finals x 2 (at suburban ground), Prelim Final (at suburban ground), Grand Final still on October Long Weekend at Adelaide Oval.

Sorry, there is no solution with regards to the integrity of the whole competition thing when the AFL teams are playing. But perhaps this is a reasonable scenario for all involved (except those Port supporters who actually believe they will be fair dinkum at SANFL level).

[Tassie Blues]

Who will be boycotting games when there team plays against the crows and powers reserves?

just the ones with no loyalty to there club. I also wonder if they would show up if they ever played a grand final against a crows or port team.

I know hundreds of people that are waking away from this sport all together because of the decision to have crows and power reserves in the SANFL. I sure I know I won't be attending another SANFL game because of it.

Agreed, but we are all terrible fans when compared to the awesomeness that is Tassie Blues.

well the SFC will still get my membership money next year and I will go to a game or two if I am back in Adelaide so compared to those walking away I am an awesome SANFL supporter.

I wont exaggerate and claim I know hundreds of SANFL supporters but of the few I do know they are all still going to games next year and one said they would still go and support the dogs even if they were dropped to the Barossa league.

I guess we will all have to wait until this time next year to see how many have given the SANFL away but I would be very surprised if memberships across all clubs are down by more than 1000 members. Clearly with the extra game each week average crowd numbers will be up next year.

[topsywaldron]

I guess we will all have to wait until this time next year to see how many have given the SANFL away but I would be very surprised if memberships across all clubs are down by more than 1000 members. Clearly with the extra game each week average crowd numbers will be up next year.

You name another business that would go out of its way to drive away its core customer base.

By my (really) rough reckoning a drop of 1000 members would account for about a 6-7% drop in membership, not too many other businesses would be super happy with that.

You could also make a pretty fair case that if 1000 members and with them their membership/seasonticket/beer/pie/merch money it would cancel out the 400K upside in Crows payments. We're not talking about fly by night go if the weather's nice types like Beenreal here.

[The Sleeping Giant]

well the SFC will still get my membership money next year and I will go to a game or two if I am back in Adelaide so compared to those walking away I am an awesome SANFL supporter.

I wont exaggerate and claim I know hundreds of SANFL supporters but of the few I do know they are all still going to games next year and one said they would still go and support the dogs even if they were dropped to the Barossa league.

I guess we will all have to wait until this time next year to see how many have given the SANFL away but I would be very surprised if memberships across all clubs are down by more than 1000 members. Clearly with the extra game each week average crowd numbers will be up next year.

You don't know jack. Wouldn't be surprised if 1000 members walked away just from the magpies.

The 2 games a year will be Sturt v Cows? I would call you a typical Cows supporter, not an sanfl supporter.

[Tassie Blues]

well the SFC will still get my membership money next year and I will go to a game or two if I am back in Adelaide so compared to those walking away I am an awesome SANFL supporter.

I wont exaggerate and claim I know hundreds of SANFL supporters but of the few I do know they are all still going to games next year and one said they would still go and support the dogs even if they were dropped to the Barossa league.

I guess we will all have to wait until this time next year to see how many have given the SANFL away but I would be very surprised if memberships across all clubs are down by more than 1000 members. Clearly with the extra game each week average crowd numbers will be up next year.

You don't know jack. Wouldn't be surprised if 1000 members walked away just from the magpies.

The 2 games a year will be Sturt v Cows? I would call you a typical Cows supporter, not an sanfl supporter.

oh please chicken little the sky is not falling! If Ports 2014 SANFL membership is over 1000 less than the 2013 memberships I will buy you and me a Port membership in 2015. (providing your still interested in SANFL by then)

The games will be who ever Sturt play on the weekends I can get to Adelaide. It will be a weekends that both Sturt and Crows(AFL) play. What you call me is completely up to you as it has no impact on my life but I know I am as much an SANFL support as everyone else on here.

[UK Fan]

well the SFC will still get my membership money next year and I will go to a game or two if I am back in Adelaide so compared to those walking away I am an awesome SANFL supporter.

I wont exaggerate and claim I know hundreds of SANFL supporters but of the few I do know they are all still going to games next year and one said they would still go and support the dogs even if they were dropped to the Barossa league.

I guess we will all have to wait until this time next year to see how many have given the SANFL away but I would be very surprised if memberships across all clubs are down by more than 1000 members. Clearly with the extra game each week average crowd numbers will be up next year.

AWESOME!!!

[Tassie Blues]

well the SFC will still get my membership money next year and I will go to a game or two if I am back in Adelaide so compared to those walking away I am an awesome SANFL supporter.

I wont exaggerate and claim I know hundreds of SANFL supporters but of the few I do know they are all still going to games next year and one said they would still go and support the dogs even if they were dropped to the Barossa league.

I guess we will all have to wait until this time next year to see how many have given the SANFL away but I would be very surprised if memberships across all clubs are down by more than 1000 members. Clearly with the extra game each week average crowd numbers will be up next year.

AWESOME!!!

thanks

[csbowes]

Although disappointing, that's your choice. It is clear that like many misguided souls, you follow colours, not the club.

I'll be there on the terraces, like I have been for 40 years watching the Port Adelaide Football Club, playing and winning in both the $ANFL and the AFL.

I'm a fan of Port Adelaide... but it isn't Port Adelaide in the SANFL.

I don't accept that... its Port Power competing in a Magpie guernsey. Might as well have Sturt wear the prison bars.

[beenreal]

Although disappointing, that's your choice. It is clear that like many misguided souls, you follow colours, not the club.

I'll be there on the terraces, like I have been for 40 years watching the Port Adelaide Football Club, playing and winning in both the $ANFL and the AFL.

I'm a fan of Port Adelaide... but it isn't Port Adelaide in the SANFL.

I don't accept that... its Port Power competing in a Magpie guernsey. Might as well have Sturt wear the prison bars.

Sorry CSB, it is, was and always will be the Port Adelaide Football Club