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[beenreal]

Geez you need some new material UK.

Port Adelaide and it's supporters have been filling the coffers of the SANFL for over 100 years and all you can focus on is the past 6-7 where the world has changed to such an extent that even the well supported AFC can't turn a profit. But I suppose that's Port Adelaide's fault as well.

As for the commission, it was the SA Football Commission that exiled the Magpies to Ethelton. It was the SA Football Commission that voted against the original merger (only to back down when Andy Dimetriou got involved). And it is the SA Football Commission that maintains the position that PAFC players can't all be grouped at the Magpies.

And this is despite the fact that since the merger, almost TWO years ago the football world has changed to the extent that all competing AFL clubs are moving towards their own reserves squads.

You're already accusing the PAFC of being a drain on finances and yet you want them to resource a 3Rd

[Ronnie]

Now why would the SANFL commission stipulate i wonder that the PAFC can't have all their players grouped together at the Magpies beenreal???

Nothing to do with how it would affect other clubs I suppose, no, if Port want but don't get it's the nasty commission all over again.

[on the rails]

Geez you need some new material.

Port Adelaide and it's supporters have been filling the coffers of the SANFL for over 100 years and all you can focus on is the past 6-7 where the world has changed to such an extent that even the well supported AFC can't turn a profit. But I suppose that's Port Adelaide's fault as well.

As for the commission, it was the SA Football Commission that exiled the Magpies to Ethelton. It was the SA Football Commission that voted against the original merger (only to back down when Andy Dimetriou got involved). And it is the SA Football Commission that maintains the position that PAFC players can't all be grouped at the Magpies.

And this is despite the fact that since the merger, almost TWO years ago the football world has changed to the extent that all competing AFL clubs are moving towards their own reserves squads.

You're already accusing the PAFC of being a drain on finances and yet you want them to resource a 3Rd

Stop trotting out that bullshit about the Magpies filling the SANFL's coffers for 100 yrs plus!! It took 7 teams (then from 1964 9) other teams for you to play against for starters so we (the other clubs) brought nil to the table or spectators to the games? Grow up and argue on some fact!

[UK Fan]

Geez you need some new material UK.

Port Adelaide and it's supporters have been filling the coffers of the SANFL for over 100 years and all you can focus on is the past 6-7 where the world has changed to such an extent that even the well supported AFC can't turn a profit. But I suppose that's Port Adelaide's fault as well.

As for the commission, it was the SA Football Commission that exiled the Magpies to Ethelton. It was the SA Football Commission that voted against the original merger (only to back down when Andy Dimetriou got involved). And it is the SA Football Commission that maintains the position that PAFC players can't all be grouped at the Magpies.

And this is despite the fact that since the merger, almost TWO years ago the football world has changed to the extent that all competing AFL clubs are moving towards their own reserves squads.

You're already accusing the PAFC of being a drain on finances and yet you want them to resource a 3Rd

Oh Scultzy!!! Different day same tired out persecution theories.

Not even Port fans believe the above BS anymore. I'll leave it to Booney to edumicate you.

You wouldn't one of those guys that can't accept when they are wrong are you ???

[beenreal]

Geez you need some new material UK.

Port Adelaide and it's supporters have been filling the coffers of the SANFL for over 100 years and all you can focus on is the past 6-7 where the world has changed to such an extent that even the well supported AFC can't turn a profit. But I suppose that's Port Adelaide's fault as well.

As for the commission, it was the SA Football Commission that exiled the Magpies to Ethelton. It was the SA Football Commission that voted against the original merger (only to back down when Andy Dimetriou got involved). And it is the SA Football Commission that maintains the position that PAFC players can't all be grouped at the Magpies.

And this is despite the fact that since the merger, almost TWO years ago the football world has changed to the extent that all competing AFL clubs are moving towards their own reserves squads.

You're already accusing the PAFC of being a drain on finances and yet you want them to resource a 3Rd

Oh Scultzy!!! Different day same tired out persecution theories.

Not even Port fans believe the above BS anymore. I'll leave it to Booney to edumicate you.

You wouldn't one of those guys that can't accept when they are wrong are you ???

Clearly I've learned from the master of "Cherry Picking quotes and trotting out the same old cr@p, ad nauseum. "Port Adelaide's a drain on the SANFL... Port Adelaide costs $14 Million, $14 Million, $14 Million... Blah, Blah, Blah......"

Or more simply, "Where's the next Port Adelaide Thread I can Troll?"

And I can't wait for Booney to "educate" me on what a bunch of Philanthropic Angels the SANFL Commission are.

[Apachebulldog]

It all turned to shite in 1997 the Magpies should of been folded up at the end of 1996 as most supporters wanted to join the big league AFL so bye bye.

[beenreal]

It all turned to shite in 1997 the Magpies should of been folded up at the end of 1996 as most supporters wanted to join the big league AFL so bye bye.

Well blame the SANFL Commission for that one too. They're ones that demanded the PAFC field an SANFL side but then shafted them off to Ethelton.

[Wedgie]

Geezus I'm dizzy, I can't believe how this conversation can go around in circles so much, and I'm blaming all of you not just one side of it! Give it up FFS!

[topsywaldron]

No reply to my post BR? Typical backsliding from you.

If it's that important the AFL players are grouped at the Magpies why didn't your club propose this when the OnePort proposal was made? Could it be that Port simply isn't a very cluey club? Or just incompetent? Watching your club flail about for the last few years leads me to suspect a hilarious mix of the two.

Personally I can't wait until your mob gets the license transferred to the AFL, watching you scrabble around for a new scapegoat to blame for you own manifest inadequecies is going to be highly amusing to the 90% of SA footy fans who just wish the Power would FOAD.

[UK Fan]

Geez you need some new material UK.

Port Adelaide and it's supporters have been filling the coffers of the SANFL for over 100 years and all you can focus on is the past 6-7 where the world has changed to such an extent that even the well supported AFC can't turn a profit. But I suppose that's Port Adelaide's fault as well.

As for the commission, it was the SA Football Commission that exiled the Magpies to Ethelton. It was the SA Football Commission that voted against the original merger (only to back down when Andy Dimetriou got involved). And it is the SA Football Commission that maintains the position that PAFC players can't all be grouped at the Magpies.

And this is despite the fact that since the merger, almost TWO years ago the football world has changed to the extent that all competing AFL clubs are moving towards their own reserves squads.

You're already accusing the PAFC of being a drain on finances and yet you want them to resource a 3Rd

Oh Scultzy!!! Different day same tired out persecution theories.

Not even Port fans believe the above BS anymore. I'll leave it to Booney to edumicate you.

You wouldn't one of those guys that can't accept when they are wrong are you ???

Clearly I've learned from the master of "Cherry Picking quotes and trotting out the same old cr@p, ad nauseum. "Port Adelaide's a drain on the SANFL... Port Adelaide costs $14 Million, $14 Million, $14 Million... Blah, Blah, Blah......"

Or more simply, "Where's the next Port Adelaide Thread I can Troll?"

And I can't wait for Booney to "educate" me on what a bunch of Philanthropic Angels the SANFL Commission are.

It's called referencing your argument schultzy!!!! You should try it.

Its alot more effective than regurgitating what former PAFC officials claim IMHO !!

[beenreal]

And since then, the majority of it's AFL competitors have moved towards maintaining their own Reserves squads.

The merger was a year ago. Changed your mind so quickly?

Why should I worry about what you question Topsy? The above post clearly demonstrates that you can't get your own facts right.

The Merger was November 2010. Back then (almost 2 YEARS ago) Richmond was happy to coexist with Coburg, now they're exiting the arrangement to field their own side.

Merely another example of how the external football landscape is changing but the SA Football Commission wants to maintain the status quo. Thus disadvantaging my club against it's AFL competitors.

[CENTURION]

I just wish something would happen!

[UK Fan]

And since then, the majority of it's AFL competitors have moved towards maintaining their own Reserves squads.

The merger was a year ago. Changed your mind so quickly?

Why should I worry about what you question Topsy? The above post clearly demonstrates that you can't get your own facts right.

The Merger was November 2010. Back then (almost 2 YEARS ago) Richmond was happy to coexist with Coburg, now they're exiting the arrangement to field their own side.

Merely another example of how the external football landscape is changing but the SA Football Commission wants to maintain the status quo. Thus disadvantaging my club against it's AFL competitors.

Bwwahhh!!! It's not that port adelaides former board were incompetent . It's the external landscape of football is changing so rapidly that no one could ever foresee this occurring .

Eventhough we told you when the reunification was approved this is exactly what will occur.

Comedy gold schultzy!!! Keep up the good work .

[UK Fan]

By default they will kill off the Maggies. If they want AFL reserves so badly then they are going to have to make a choice as to how they do it and at what cost, the monetary cost and the risk of dividing their supporter base once again.

My mail is that both the Crows and Port have conceded that they cannot field reserves teams in our League comp and the next best cost option is to field sides in our Reserves Comp. Port really want this because they can keep the Magpie supporters happy by playing that team in the prison bar black and white where as a stand alone AFL Reserves comp or the Power fielding a side in the VFL fopr example will ensure the Magpie and the Prison Bars are consigned to history.

The problem is with having the Power and Crows fielding sides in our reserves comp is that the Seniors will revert to 8 teams with the Magpies dropping out and the ressies will have 10? Good luck with trying to do the draw - you will have the absurd situation of having your exisiting club having it's seniors and reserves sides playing at different grounds on the same day so that would add addtional cost to the SANFL Clubs re support staff (Coaches / Trainers) alhtough most clubs only pay "petrol" money to their support staff who are in the main volunteers.k.

Wouldn't be that tough to work out with 9 teams.

Couldn't crows reserves play whoever has the bye ????

[wild dog]

If the SA Centre for Self Interest (SANFL Commission) maintains the position that the PAFC cannot use it's own Magpies, then no-one should be surprised when the PAFC explores other options to avoid being disadvantaged.

And let's not forget, it's the AFC that is threatening to pull all it's players from the SANFL next year.

The commission is a representative body. So it if it does have a self interest, it has the interest of the collective being the SANFL and community football clubs. The SANFL and community clubs have a real interest in seeing its AFL clubs financially strong to ensure a strong return to its constituents, and for those AFL teams to operate in a manner to ensure football in South Australia continues to thrive.

Just a bit loftier than the self interest of a few as you are trying to suggest. On the other hand for Port to explore options to ensure its not disadvantaged no matter the consequence to SA Footy smacks of selfishness and arrogance which is so, well, Port Adelaide like.

[beenreal]

Two years ago Richmond renewed their alliance with Coburg with a 3 year contract which they are in the process of terminating because their football landscape has changed as well. I suppose because that didn't have access to a crystal ball, their Board is incompetent as well?

Perhaps if you did some actual research instead of being completely fixated on childish name calling and the arbitrary lobbing of handgrenades towards Alberton you'd know this UK.

[Ronnie]

Two years ago Richmond renewed their alliance with Coburg with a 3 year contract which they are in the process of terminating because their football landscape has changed as well. I suppose because that didn't have access to a crystal ball, their Board is incompetent as well?

Perhaps if you did some actual research instead of being completely fixated on childish name calling and the arbitrary lobbing of handgrenades towards Alberton you'd know this UK.

It's not uncommon for AFL clubs like Richmond to do that, almost on a whim. The VFL as a competition has been shot to pieces by teams dropping in/dropping out, some with alliances, some stand alone, the whole comp has lost it's self respect you could say and once you've done that you don't get it back.

As long as the SA football Commission fights to maintain something better than that outcome for football in this state then I think the vast majority of people will back them in.

[FlyingHigh]

If the SA Centre for Self Interest (SANFL Commission) maintains the position that the PAFC cannot use it's own Magpies, then no-one should be surprised when the PAFC explores other options to avoid being disadvantaged.

And let's not forget, it's the AFC that is threatening to pull all it's players from the SANFL next year.

The commission is a representative body. So it if it does have a self interest, it has the interest of the collective being the SANFL and community football clubs. The SANFL and community clubs have a real interest in seeing its AFL clubs financially strong to ensure a strong return to its constituents, and for those AFL teams to operate in a manner to ensure football in South Australia continues to thrive.

Just a bit loftier than the self interest of a few as you are trying to suggest. On the other hand for Port to explore options to ensure its not disadvantaged no matter the consequence to SA Footy smacks of selfishness and arrogance which is so, well, Port Adelaide like.

Superb post amongst all the dross

[Psyber]

It all turned to shite in 1997 the Magpies should of been folded up at the end of 1996 as most supporters wanted to join the big league AFL so bye bye.

Well blame the SANFL Commission for that one too. They're ones that demanded the PAFC field an SANFL side but then shafted them off to Ethelton.

The second team for the "big league" should have been another composite side anyway.
The Power were never going to attract much support outside their Magpie base.
And, now, they can't even hold them.

And, IIRC, it was the Power management that made the decision to shunt the Magpies off to Ethelton so they could train at Alberton themselves.

PS: Well put wild dog!

[UK Fan]

Two years ago Richmond renewed their alliance with Coburg with a 3 year contract which they are in the process of terminating because their football landscape has changed as well. I suppose because that didn't have access to a crystal ball, their Board is incompetent as well?

Perhaps if you did some actual research instead of being completely fixated on childish name calling and the arbitrary lobbing of handgrenades towards Alberton you'd know this UK.

Do you think Richmonds board were smart by signing a 3 year deal with coburg Beeny ????

If Richmond have been caught off guard due to the ever changing landscape of football bs. Why did they start planning and collecting funds from it's members for a standalone reserves team playing out of punt road since 2010 with the "fighting tiger fund".

Have Coburg and Richmond merged recently that I wasn't aware of.Will Coburg die next year due to Richmonds need for a standalone reserves team ??? Or will they go independent and revert back to the lions.

See how it's kind of the complete opposite situation to Port/Port Magpies and completely irrelevant to the argument.

You produce more smoke and mirrors than a Chad Cornes Tribunal defence.