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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby RustyCage » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:02 pm

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2013-09-10/statement-port-adelaide-accepts-sanfl-invitation

The Port Adelaide Football Club Board of Directors has today unanimously voted to accept a formal invitation from the South Australian Football Commission to allow the club’s AFL-listed players to play under its Magpies banner in the SANFL League competition from 2014 onwards.

The Club has agreed to a model which allows all of its AFL-listed players who are not selected to play in the AFL competition on any given match weekend to play for the Magpies in the SANFL League competition.

A pool of 15 contracted SANFL players will also be eligible to play in either the club’s SANFL League or Academy team in the Reserves competition.

There is to be no age limit on the players selected for the contracted SANFL player list.

The remainder of the club’s SANFL Academy team will be comprised of a list of players aged between 18 and 22 years.

In 2014, the club is still required by the SANFL to field a team in the U18 Maccas Cup, U16 Maccas Shield and U15, U14 and U13 talent squad competitions.

From 2015 the club will no longer be permitted to field sides in these competitions and the current Magpies recruiting zones will be redistributed among the other eight SANFL clubs.

The club has worked to develop a replacement junior program in order to retain links with its local communities, particularly in its Port Adelaide heartland and on the west coast of South Australia.

From the 2015 season at the latest, the club will replace its traditional junior structure with several development programs for junior footballers.

Those pathways will include metropolitan and country development pathways, an Aboriginal player program, a Multicultural program and a father/son academy.

Port Adelaide chief executive officer Keith Thomas said the opportunity to have all of the club’s players representing it in either the AFL or SANFL is an important step for the advancement of the club’s direction.

“We are now, finally, one club, and all of Port Adelaide’s players will exclusively play for Port Adelaide,” said Mr Thomas.

“This important decision allows us to field teams committed to excellence in the AFL and SANFL as a united club.

“We have worked closely with the league to negotiate this solution and we believe it is the best way forward for preserving our traditional identity in the SANFL competition.

“Port Adelaide will be called the Magpies and wear our traditional black and white guernsey in SANFL football – that is our iron-clad commitment to our supporters.

“We have also made the commitment to ‘playing the line’ in the SANFL, but of course we have always been about striving to win premierships in every competition we play in.

“One non-negotiable was that we must be able to maintain our commitment to both elite and grassroots football in South Australia. We are delighted to have achieved this through this proposal.

“I thank all of the key stakeholders who have helped achieve this outcome and extend particular thanks to our supporters who have been very understanding of the situation we have worked through over the last three to four months.”

The key points of the agreement between the SANFL and the Port Adelaide Football Club are:

» From 2014, all of Port Adelaide’s AFL-listed players will play for the club’s SANFL League team when not selected to play for the Power
» The SANFL League team will be supported by a pool of 15 contracted SANFL-only players
» Port Adelaide will operate an Academy team in the SANFL Reserves competition with a list of players aged 18-22.
» All Port Adelaide teams participating in the SANFL will continue to use the Magpies nickname and wear the club’s traditional black and white guernsey
» Port Adelaide is required to operate a conventional junior structure in 2014 including teams in the U18, U16 and talent squad competitions
» Port Adelaide must disband its conventional junior structure and recruiting zones from 2015
» Port Adelaide is permitted to attract sponsors for its SANFL team, providing these are not competing partners of the SANFL competition
» Port Adelaide SANFL memberships are permitted to be sold independently and in conjunction with Port Adelaide AFL memberships
» Port Adelaide will continue to play home matches at its traditional home ground Alberton Oval
» All Port Adelaide players are eligible to win the Magarey Medal
» Contracted pool of SANFL-only players are eligible to represent the state; AFL-listed players are ineligible to represent the state.
» Port Adelaide commits to ‘playing the line’ including:
- Not resting players and taking up elective surgery options
- SANFL doctor to provide second opinion on surgeries prior to end of season.

Port Adelaide Football Club – Football structure 2014, and 2015 onwards

Port Adelaide AFL
» Plays as the Power and wears current ‘V’ guernsey

Port Adelaide SANFL League
» Plays as the Magpies and wears traditional black and white guernsey
» Team composition permitted to include:
- Any AFL-listed players not selected to play for the Power
- Any members of a contracted list of 15 SANFL players

Port Adelaide SANFL Academy
» Plays as the Magpies and wears traditional black and white guernsey in the SANFL Reserves competition
» Team composition permitted to include:
- Any members of contracted list of 15 SANFL players not selected to play for the SANFL League team
- List of players aged between 18-22 years old

Port Adelaide U18 program
» As per current arrangements
» Ceases at the conclusion of the 2014 season

Port Adelaide U16 program
» As per current arrangements
» Ceases at the conclusion of the 2014 season

Port Adelaide talent squad programs
» As per current arrangements
» Ceases at the conclusion of the 2014 season

Port Adelaide junior development pathway programs
» A series of junior football programs that may include the following:
» A metropolitan academy
- A country academy
- An Aboriginal player academy
- An international player academy
- A father/son academy
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby PhilH » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:09 pm

DONE DEAL

Tuesday September 10 2013
SANFL COMPETITION – MEDIA STATEMENT

The SANFL can confirm that the Port Adelaide Football Club has accepted the proposed terms and conditions for the Magpies to act as an AFL ‘’support team’’ in 2014.

These terms and conditions were approved by the League Directors at a meeting on August 5.

This will see the Port Adelaide Magpies exist in the manner detailed below:

PORT ADELAIDE MAGPIES STRUCTURE

2014
• Port Adelaide Magpies league team exists as PAFC ‘support’ team
• Port Adelaide Magpies reserves team exists as PAFC ‘academy’ team
• Junior team and promotional zone responsibilities to remain with Port Adelaide Magpies.

2015
• Removal of Port Adelaide Magpies junior teams.
• Removal of Port Adelaide Magpies promotional zone.

PLAYER REGULATIONS AND SUPPORT STAFF STRUCTURE

PAFC AFL Listed players
• All PAFC AFL listed players (including Rookie listed) to play with the Port Adelaide Magpies support team should they not be in the Port Adelaide AFL team.

Top Up players – leadership player
• Port Adelaide Magpies support team can contract one ‘leadership’ player per season.
o 28 years and over, must have been on PAFC AFL or PAMFC list.

Top Up players – ‘Magpies listed’ contracted players
• Port Adelaide Magpies to provide a list of 15 players at the start of the season who can play at SANFL league level – contracts to be lodged with SANFL. (18 and above with no age ceiling to apply).
• Such players receive a maximum of $400 per match at SANFL league level, $100 at reserves level.

Academy team
• Port Adelaide Magpies to have an academy team in the SANFL reserves competition.
• This academy team to be populated through the Port Adelaide’s Magpies listed players (as detailed), existing PAMFC players, country, indigenous, international, father / son academies. (Players to be aged between 18-22).
• Such players receive a maximum of $100 per match at reserves level.

SANFL League Finals qualification
• No qualification criteria for AFL listed players during the SANFL finals series when the PAFC is still involved at AFL level.
• Should the PAFC not be involved at AFL level, a player must have played the majority of his Football at SANFL level, or 3 of the last 5 games at SANFL level to qualify.
• Port Adelaide Magpies would not qualify for SANFL Finals prize money or appearance fees.

Competition commitment
• Port Adelaide Magpies to commit to ‘playing to the line’.
o Will not rest players and take up elective surgery options.
o SANFL doctor to provide 2nd opinion on surgeries before end of season.
o Will commit in writing of these points, to be in Club and head coach charters.

Support Staff
• Port Adelaide Magpies to commit to not recruiting support staff directly from SANFL Clubs.

Home Venue
• PAFC will have a home venue, Alberton Oval and will play home games at this venue.
• Matches versus the AFC will be held at a neutral venue.

COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE

Commitment & Licence Fee
• 15 year term, reviewed annually by the SANFL.
• 12 month notice period for SANFL & SANFL Clubs to terminate agreement.
• Port Adelaide Magpies to forego $400K of their Club distribution in 2014.
• Port Adelaide Magpies to retain the balance of the Club distribution for servicing their zone in 2014.
• No distribution payable by the SANFL to Port Adelaide Magpies post the removal of PAFC promotional zones at the end of 2014 season.

Membership
• Port Adelaide Magpies memberships continue to be sold independently and in conjunction with the PAFC.

Branding
• To be branded Port Adelaide Magpies and wear ‘prison bar’ guernsey.

Sponsorship
• Port Adelaide Magpies to have the ability to attract sponsors for their support team. (no competing partners of the SANFL Competition – SANFL approval required)

Media
• PAFC to generate interest in SANFL Competition and other SANFL Clubs through media activation, social media and website.
• PAFC to assist SANFL in securing partners for commercial TV broadcast

Community Engagement
• PAFC to commit to working with SANFL Clubs (Should the SANFL Clubs opt in) in promoting pathways to AFL Football.
o In lead up to Magpies SANFL ‘away’ games, PAFC will help promote the home game in tandem with the SANFL Club within their promotional zone.
o PAFC to provide a Home Match speaker (player / official) to the Club that they are playing away against in the SANFL competition.

Transfer Fees
• To retain existing 1 – 35 listed Magpies players within the SANFL competition, transfer fees for these players to be set at 50% of transfer fee through SANFL points system.
• 36 – 50 listed Magpies players to transfer SANFL Clubs for zero fee.
• From 2014, Magpies listed 15 players can transfer to other SANFL Clubs for fee of $2,500.
• Players from the academy team to have the ability to move to other SANFL Clubs for zero fee.

COMPETITION STRUCTURE

State representation
• Magpies listed 15 players to have the opportunity to play State Football. AFL-listed players will not be eligible for selection.

Boundaries
• SANFL to establish a review of SANFL Club boundaries – with a view to completion by mid-2014.


The SANFL will establish a working party, as it is with the AFC, to work through finalising the appropriate regulations in preparation for the 2014 season.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:09 pm

The commission must be ousted immediately if it's infact true that the no age limit to its 15 contracted players was not approved by the directors.

How can we make this happen?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:13 pm

daysofourlives wrote:The commission must be ousted immediately if it's infact true that the no age limit to its 15 contracted players was not approved by the directors.

How can we make this happen?

Agreed these carnts need to be lynched immediately
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby whufc » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:14 pm

How much money do Port have to use on the 15 contracted players or is that another we will work it out later decision

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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:17 pm

whufc wrote:How much money do Port have to use on the 15 contracted players or is that another we will work it out later decision

This is the kick in the head when your already unconscious

Max of $400/game it says
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby klaan » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:19 pm

Jim05 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The commission must be ousted immediately if it's infact true that the no age limit to its 15 contracted players was not approved by the directors.

How can we make this happen?

Agreed these carnts need to be lynched immediately


Quotes from Davies from an updated Rucci article

"The age restriction was rescinded by the League Directors on August 29. When the demand for a salary cap on the magpies was dropped, so was the age restriction on top up players".

Top up players receive $400 from what I have read. There is no way any good Port player is staying for that amount when there is 5 spots per weekend available!
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:20 pm

One of the terms and conditions must be that Danny Butcher stays on Port's list for a minimum of 5 years.
See if they agree to that
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:21 pm

klaan wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:The commission must be ousted immediately if it's infact true that the no age limit to its 15 contracted players was not approved by the directors.

How can we make this happen?

Agreed these carnts need to be lynched immediately


Quotes from Davies from an updated Rucci article

"The age restriction was rescinded by the League Directors on August 29. When the demand for a salary cap on the magpies was dropped, so was the age restriction on top up players".

Top up players receive $400 from what I have read. There is no way any good Port player is staying for that amount when there is 5 spots per weekend available!

The decent players can get $1000 a week playing country footy and training one night a week, hopefully Port are only left with the duds that almost won them the ressies wooden spoon this year
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby sjt » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:23 pm

F$&@ the sanfl commission and the six gutless, spineless piss weak clubs directors. Youve destroyed our competition. When you get knocked out the finals and your players are gutted for missing an opportunity to win a flag (what they strive for). Or when an afl player on the equivalent money of a whole teams salary cap wins the Margarey then maybe you'll start to see the repercussions of your selfish weakness as the "guardians" of OUR competition.
Your decisions aren't justifiable otherwise you'd justify them. For $50,000 for f$&&@ sake!
I'll never attend the home ground of a yes voting club again, (with the exception of the reserves finals).
How can you fold so easily?
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby Aerie » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:24 pm

How much would an average player be on in the SANFL? Surely there are ways around this re cash payments, jobs, AFL promises etc. An age restriction should be enforced.
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:27 pm

Like the Cows model, I believe both can be re assesed every year and both clubs booted out.
How can we change our directors so that we can boot these clubs out next year?
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby UK Fan » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:28 pm

What was the quote at One Port merger "Port Magpies will never be Powers reserves"

Now by making port magpies powers reserves port Adelaide are truly One Club.

Well don't want to have to say the true motives for the merger have been revealed. But it was pretty obvious to all.

To quote Steven Summerton "we were never One Club".


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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby UK Fan » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:29 pm

sjt wrote:F$&@ the sanfl commission and the six gutless, spineless piss weak clubs directors. Youve destroyed our competition. When you get knocked out the finals and your players are gutted for missing an opportunity to win a flag (what they strive for). Or when an afl player on the equivalent money of a whole teams salary cap wins the Margarey then maybe you'll start to see the repercussions of your selfish weakness as the "guardians" of OUR competition.
Your decisions aren't justifiable otherwise you'd justify them. For $50,000 for f$&&@ sake!
I'll never attend the home ground of a yes voting club again, (with the exception of the reserves finals).
How can you fold so easily?
Shattered with football, shattered for football. I'm sure i'm not alone. How can you be so deaf to your members?
Cheats and corruption win.



Well said!!!
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby southee » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:41 pm

sjt wrote:F$&@ the sanfl commission and the six gutless, spineless piss weak clubs directors. Youve destroyed our competition. When you get knocked out the finals and your players are gutted for missing an opportunity to win a flag (what they strive for). Or when an afl player on the equivalent money of a whole teams salary cap wins the Margarey then maybe you'll start to see the repercussions of your selfish weakness as the "guardians" of OUR competition.
Your decisions aren't justifiable otherwise you'd justify them. For $50,000 for f$&&@ sake!
I'll never attend the home ground of a yes voting club again, (with the exception of the reserves finals).
How can you fold so easily?
Shattered with football, shattered for football. I'm sure i'm not alone. How can you be so deaf to your members?
Cheats and corruption win.


Agreed 100% !
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:42 pm

Aerie wrote:How much would an average player be on in the SANFL? Surely there are ways around this re cash payments, jobs, AFL promises etc. An age restriction should be enforced.


Yep

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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby klaan » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:44 pm

Although I don't agree with them having teams in the SANFL, Summerton should look at the history of his own Club. The Magpies won the flags at SANFL level and it was the Magpies who became the Power in the AFL.

If these two teams are to come in, anyone who doesnt acknowledge the delicacy around the PAFC situation lives in a simplistic world IMHO. I give this academy team 3 years maximum and from what i understand so do the Clubs. Then, both Clubs will be operating under the same rules which would be the best of this situation.
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby bays2011 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:46 pm

UK Fan wrote:
sjt wrote:F$&@ the sanfl commission and the six gutless, spineless piss weak clubs directors. Youve destroyed our competition. When you get knocked out the finals and your players are gutted for missing an opportunity to win a flag (what they strive for). Or when an afl player on the equivalent money of a whole teams salary cap wins the Margarey then maybe you'll start to see the repercussions of your selfish weakness as the "guardians" of OUR competition.
Your decisions aren't justifiable otherwise you'd justify them. For $50,000 for f$&&@ sake!
I'll never attend the home ground of a yes voting club again, (with the exception of the reserves finals).
How can you fold so easily?
Shattered with football, shattered for football. I'm sure i'm not alone. How can you be so deaf to your members?
Cheats and corruption win.



Well said!!!


Except he forgot to mention that it is not JUST for $50,000. There is also the vague suggestion there might be a commercial TV deal.

My club voted yes to this sh!t without the slightest effort to consult with members. I will never again be a member of my club. Disgrace.
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby sjt » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:59 pm

bays2011 wrote:
UK Fan wrote:
sjt wrote:F$&@ the sanfl commission and the six gutless, spineless piss weak clubs directors. Youve destroyed our competition. When you get knocked out the finals and your players are gutted for missing an opportunity to win a flag (what they strive for). Or when an afl player on the equivalent money of a whole teams salary cap wins the Margarey then maybe you'll start to see the repercussions of your selfish weakness as the "guardians" of OUR competition.
Your decisions aren't justifiable otherwise you'd justify them. For $50,000 for f$&&@ sake!
I'll never attend the home ground of a yes voting club again, (with the exception of the reserves finals).
How can you fold so easily?
Shattered with football, shattered for football. I'm sure i'm not alone. How can you be so deaf to your members?
Cheats and corruption win.



Well said!!!


Except he forgot to mention that it is not JUST for $50,000. There is also the vague suggestion there might be a commercial TV deal.

My club voted yes to this sh!t without the slightest effort to consult with members. I will never again be a member of my club. Disgrace.

If the sanfl and clubs can raise $1million to pay for it.
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Re: Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commissi

Postby southee » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:00 pm

bays2011 wrote:
UK Fan wrote:
sjt wrote:F$&@ the sanfl commission and the six gutless, spineless piss weak clubs directors. Youve destroyed our competition. When you get knocked out the finals and your players are gutted for missing an opportunity to win a flag (what they strive for). Or when an afl player on the equivalent money of a whole teams salary cap wins the Margarey then maybe you'll start to see the repercussions of your selfish weakness as the "guardians" of OUR competition.
Your decisions aren't justifiable otherwise you'd justify them. For $50,000 for f$&&@ sake!
I'll never attend the home ground of a yes voting club again, (with the exception of the reserves finals).
How can you fold so easily?
Shattered with football, shattered for football. I'm sure i'm not alone. How can you be so deaf to your members?
Cheats and corruption win.



Well said!!!


Except he forgot to mention that it is not JUST for $50,000. There is also the vague suggestion there might be a commercial TV deal.

My club voted yes to this sh!t without the slightest effort to consult with members. I will never again be a member of my club. Disgrace.


Come join a SANFL club that voted NO! ;)
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