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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby southee » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:23 pm

Big Phil wrote:Yes, players do duck but if this is the case and it is obvious to all (as you are suggesting), the umpire generally calls 'play on - you ducked your head' which is accepted.

In the Backwell and Joel Cross scenario, the umpire was pretty much in perfect position to not only make the correct decision for high contact but also put Mouse in the book.

If the 'alleged duck' was as obvious as you are eluding to HP, surely the umpire would have called play on like I mentioned above, surely? Again, we'll have to agree to disagree :)


I shall repeat it....he did not duck his head it happened about 30 metres right in front of me!!!! :evil:
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Big Phil » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:27 pm

southee wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Yes, players do duck but if this is the case and it is obvious to all (as you are suggesting), the umpire generally calls 'play on - you ducked your head' which is accepted.

In the Backwell and Joel Cross scenario, the umpire was pretty much in perfect position to not only make the correct decision for high contact but also put Mouse in the book.

If the 'alleged duck' was as obvious as you are eluding to HP, surely the umpire would have called play on like I mentioned above, surely? Again, we'll have to agree to disagree :)


I shall repeat it....he did not duck his head it happened about 30 metres right in front of me!!!! :evil:


I'm not saying he did duck his head Southee, Hooray Punt is.

I agree with you and can see what happened clearly in the vision.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:34 pm

Big Phil wrote:Yes, players do duck but if this is the case and it is obvious to all (as you are suggesting), the umpire generally calls 'play on - you ducked your head' which is accepted.

In the Backwell and Joel Cross scenario, the umpire was pretty much in perfect position to not only make the correct decision for high contact but also put Mouse in the book.

If the 'alleged duck' was as obvious as you are eluding to HP, surely the umpire would have called play on like I mentioned above, surely? Again, we'll have to agree to disagree :)


Oh dear . It's not an "alleged" duck Phil ,it's just how I saw it.That's funny .I also never mentioned it was obvious did I ? I didn't mention the positioning of the umpire either , I couldn't give a flying toss if the ump was or wasn't in position , I never mentioned anything about that. My position was pretty good though , in front of screen probably baout 45 cm away ,directly in front ........... as shown on the Adelaide Now clip . ;)

Head over the ball no doubt , when about to be tackled he ducked to assure the umpire knew it was too high .Nothing more to it .
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Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:35 pm

Stribling not guilty. I thought it was deliberate.

Mouse is a different, and better player since he has been at North. ;)
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby southee » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:43 pm

Big Phil wrote:
southee wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Yes, players do duck but if this is the case and it is obvious to all (as you are suggesting), the umpire generally calls 'play on - you ducked your head' which is accepted.

In the Backwell and Joel Cross scenario, the umpire was pretty much in perfect position to not only make the correct decision for high contact but also put Mouse in the book.

If the 'alleged duck' was as obvious as you are eluding to HP, surely the umpire would have called play on like I mentioned above, surely? Again, we'll have to agree to disagree :)


I shall repeat it....he did not duck his head it happened about 30 metres right in front of me!!!! :evil:


I'm not saying he did duck his head Southee, Hooray Punt is.

I agree with you and can see what happened clearly in the vision.


Yeah mate I know Big Phil......HP is the expert :roll:
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:48 pm

OH FFS , so I don't agree with you or vice versa so you pathetically come back with that . Good response . Lets play the "I agree with you game" :roll:

Anyway move on , we disagree big deal .Enjoy school tomorrow Southee , don't forget your smok.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Dirko » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:54 pm

HOORAY PUNT wrote:Enjoy school tomorrow Southee , don't forget your smok.


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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:59 pm

:roll:

Does it really matter , seriously.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:54 am

Big Phil wrote:Yes, players do duck but if this is the case and it is obvious to all (as you are suggesting), the umpire generally calls 'play on - you ducked your head' which is accepted.

Incorrect. Replace "generally" with "rarely".
Used to happen several times a game. Ive seen it happen twice this year, they "generally" award the person who ducks with a free kick.


Backwell getting one game was fair enough but surpised to see a deliberate trip/kick which could easily potentially break someones leg let go. Looks like the tribunal are saying dont tackle or bump a player these days as we'll suspend you, just throw your boot at him and youll be fine. Mind you it was good to see Stribling kick the North player as its the first time Ive actually seen him hit someone accurately by foot. :lol:

Maybe his defence was it was accidental as he was aiming for the footy metres away. ;)
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby on the rails » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:03 pm

No issues with Backwell getting a game - he had plenty of time to adjust to the actions of the South player and not hit him high front on but how Stribling got off is "baffling". The view from behind (not shown on camera sadly) it looked like a deliberate licking out action and did cause Ryswyk some discomfort who was limping after the contact. I wonder what the outcome would have been if Ryswyk sustained an injury that put him out of the remainder of the game and also caused him to potentially miss this week?

Speaking to Leroy and a couple of other players who were nearby after the gamem they were in no doubt it was deliberate and he had a reasonable size bruise where the contact was made to show. It is one thing to trip by hand but throwing your leg out in a kicking motion is not on but unfortuntely the video footage didn't show what those looking up the ground from the Southern end saw. Just another example of inconsistency at the tribunal.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby StrayDog » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:37 pm

on the rails wrote:..... it looked like a deliberate licking out action and did cause Ryswyk some discomfort who was limping after the contact.

A few of those in the outer would have felt his discomfort.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby blueandwhite » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:27 pm

StrayDog wrote:
on the rails wrote:..... it looked like a deliberate licking out action and did cause Ryswyk some discomfort who was limping after the contact.

A few of those in the outer would have felt his discomfort.



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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Big Phil » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:46 pm

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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Hazydog » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:33 am

CAMPBELL, SUTHERLAND OFFERED ONE MATCH
NORWOOD midfielder Bryce Campbell will front the SANFL tribunal tonight to argue a one-week ban for forceful front-on contact.
Central District was yesterday considering whether to do the same and fight ruckman Jason Sutherland's one-game suspension for the same charge.
Campbell was reported in the first quarter of Norwood's loss to South Adelaide while Sutherland was reported in the second term of the Dogs' win over North Adelaide.

From http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6135048919

Gobsmacked on both accounts :shock:
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Wedgie » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:36 am

Not sure how anyone could be gobsmacked. As much as I disagree with the rule they enforce (which cost us having Mouse for the last game) they have been very consistent with it over the last couple of years.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:51 am

Absolute disgrace on both counts. Only seen footage of Sutherlands and looked nothing in it. Saw Campbells from about 30 metres away and it was just 2 guys going hard at the footy.
If thats what the SANFL is coming too then ive almost had enough
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby westcoastpanther » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:03 am

Wrong Jim, Campbell was always going to be in trouble. Would be 3 in AFL. I don't agree with it by the way, but it's been this way for a while now...
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby CedeNullis » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:10 am

Jim05 wrote:Absolute disgrace on both counts. Only seen footage of Sutherlands and looked nothing in it. Saw Campbells from about 30 metres away and it was just 2 guys going hard at the footy.
If thats what the SANFL is coming too then ive almost had enough

=D> I didn't see the Campbell's 'incident', but when a bump to the side is reportable, football has a problem.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby sjt » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:30 am

What an absolute disgrace the Sutherland decision is. I had to watch it again a couple of times this morning, to ensure I wasn't watching it as a "one eyed" supporter. It was a hip and shoulder to the side!! Looking at it again it shouldn't even have been a free kick! :evil: If you're not allowed to bump in the side anymore they should tell the players. I can't believe he'll miss a finals game on an obvious bump. I didn't see the incident happen initially and was relieved to see the video.Unbelievable.
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Re: Tribunal discussion/views/debate

Postby Jim05 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:41 am

westcoastpanther wrote:Wrong Jim, Campbell was always going to be in trouble. Would be 3 in AFL. I don't agree with it by the way, but it's been this way for a while now...

To miss a final and a possible Magarey is outrageous
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