AFL Reserves Discussion...

[zipzap]

So what are the league directors going to say next year when membership drops by 10-20 percent?

When crowds are down 20-30%?

It'll all be too late.

Personally, I think talk of memberships and crowds dropping by so much are being overstated. There might be a small drop, but for every person who hates this and refuses to go to games anymore there will be 99 who don't give a shit.

Macca, the ones who don't give a shit are the ones who pissed off to the Crows/Power years ago.

Those who remained have a little more spine than you give them credit for.

You know me. You reckon I'm bullshitting when I say I will never - NEVER - go to a Crows game in the SANFL?

That is what the bye is called now.

Yep, was thinking the same

[CedeNullis]

Thank you central and south for standing up for something that is so important to so many people. Tomorrow, I'll email both clubs to pass on my thanks and join the central 200 club. Next year I'll buy a south membership and plan to utilise the bar/lunch facilities before the game. Thank you for showing integrity (and common sense) when others couldn't.
We love the club and would have found it very difficult to not attend next year and support the team.
To the crows, you disgust me. You demonstrate so much of what is going wrong with some aspects of society.
To the other clubs, I just don't understand, inexplicable. I hope members vote each and everyone of you out.

Nicely put sjt.
I feel gutted for every SANFL fan. This will be the classic case of you don't know what you've got...until you lose it.
But you already knew that. That's why there are 200 pages plus on this topic.
Port Adelaide and the Adelaide Football club, working together to destroy the SANFL, Well done scumbags.

[BrekkyDJ]

My total respect for Centrals and Souths for voting NO to the proposal - showed real character.

To the other clubs... you've doomed the league to the same fate of the VFA.

[Pseudo]

Sorry if I've missed it, but what were the reasons that Central and South voted against the proposal?

Integrity and Relevance.

[southee]

Been a South supporter all my life.....go to games regularly, been laughed at and ridiculed for supporting them as I grew up.

I have never seen a premiership in the 40 years of my life but tonight I am so proud of the club I love and the stance they took.

Well done Centrals for fighting the fight too......the other 6 clubs should hang them selves in shame tonight!!!

Well done South Adelaide.

[csbowes]

10% at $150 dollars a membership (if a club has 1500 members thats 150 members gone there is $22500 gone there)



plus any money spent on game days (no less than $10 a game over 11 home games is $16 500)
plus any family members/mates who may come casually with them
plus any merchandise they would normally buy (spend $10 each a year on merch theres another $1500)
plus lose any revenue they spend from the clubrooms throughout the year dining etc etc
plus some of these people will no doubt be player sponsors etc etc

There almost goes the 50K a year! A you have lost patronage and those figures are being very kind, doubt to many people spend less than $10 at a day out of footy.

I agree with your figures, but I agree with others that only a percentage will walk away next year, 20% I think I said for crowds, I'm probably wrong.. I think its more likely that over the coming three years or so, as Port joins Woodville and maybe another club folds, that the league will become more like an ammo league with tiny crowds.

It's no longer the SANFL, its absolutely the AFLSA.

[sjt]

I wonder what the cost would be, to say a Norwood or north if a grigg or Johnston were to kick a match winning goal to eliminate them from the finals? More than $50k?

[whufc]

10% at $150 dollars a membership (if a club has 1500 members thats 150 members gone there is $22500 gone there)



plus any money spent on game days (no less than $10 a game over 11 home games is $16 500)
plus any family members/mates who may come casually with them
plus any merchandise they would normally buy (spend $10 each a year on merch theres another $1500)
plus lose any revenue they spend from the clubrooms throughout the year dining etc etc
plus some of these people will no doubt be player sponsors etc etc

There almost goes the 50K a year! A you have lost patronage and those figures are being very kind, doubt to many people spend less than $10 at a day out of footy.

I agree with your figures, but I agree with others that only a small percentage will walk away next year. I think its more likely that over the coming three years or so, as Port johns Woodville and maybe another club folds, that the league will become more like an ammo league with tiny crowds.

It's no longer the SANFL, its absolutely the AFLSA.

Agree, it will be over a 3-4 year period crowds will decline.

There will be the initial excitment from Crows fans about the reserves side but once their sitting 7th have South at Noarlunga on a rainy 11 degree day, the Crows are sitting 13th in the AFL the interest will have gone.

[FOURTH ESTATE]

I for one will not be renewing my membership for the future. Will celebrate the past and attend Hall of Fame nights to celebrate the past but nothing more.

TRIGG YOU ARE A LYING PIECE OF SH#T WITH NO INTEGRITY OR MORALS YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED FOR WHAT YOU DID. IF I EVER SEE YOU I WILL TELL YOU TO YOUR FACE WHAT I THINK OF YOU LOWLIFE SCUMBAG

[topsywaldron]

I wonder what the cost would be, to say a Norwood or north if a grigg or Johnston were to kick a match winning goal to eliminate them from the finals? More than $50k?

Missing the point.

There are a significant number of people smart enough to know when they're being sold a lemon and will say no thanks. Pretending that a comp comprising of one fifth of clubs who don't give a rats if they win or lose isn't the biggest, suckiest lemon of all time won't change the fact that it is indeed the biggest, suckiest lemon of all time.

Dion Hayman was spot on a few weeks back, integrity is all.

[Mic]

Sorry if I've missed it, but what were the reasons that Central and South voted against the proposal?

Common sense.

[sjt]

Sorry if I've missed it, but what were the reasons that Central and South voted against the proposal?

Common sense.

No benefit to sanfl clubs.

[Ecky]

It was interesting listening to Rucci interview Olsen on 5AA tonight. His answer to basically every question (what will they be called, what about top up players, etc etc etc... was the standard "umm..ahh...that is still to be decided". He just kept saying "they have been given an invitation" which amused my 2 year old son even -
"tation"?
"tation again?"
"tation again Daddy!"
"tation again Daddy!"

John Olsen - even two year old children are laughing at your handling of this!

I really can't believe that so many clubs voted yes with so many unknowns. A very dark day in the history of football in South Australia.

[dedja]

He handled the ETSA debacle the same way ... seemed like a good idea at the time apparently.

[csbowes]

I noticed I few posts back West was quoted as saying there are no finals qualification rules in place while the Crows are in the finals.

So... week off in the AFL finals, Crows can put half their team in the local finals?

[daysofourlives]

Now they are in I hope at least 2000 paying Crows supporters come every week and bring more money to the SANFL clubs.

They don't go to Power hosted Showdowns where their money goes to Power, why would they go to all away games in the SANFL?

[Cambridge Clarrie]

I noticed I few posts back West was quoted as saying there are no finals qualification rules in place while the Crows are in the finals.

So... week off in the AFL finals, Crows can put half their team in the local finals?

Doubt it. What benefit would that be? (unless they valued winning the sanfl premiership over the afl premiership...)

[southee]

I noticed I few posts back West was quoted as saying there are no finals qualification rules in place while the Crows are in the finals.

So... week off in the AFL finals, Crows can put half their team in the local finals?

Doubt it. What benefit would that be? (unless they valued winning the sanfl premiership over the afl premiership...)

I dont think Sanderson gives a RATS about winning in the SANFL comp.....from Adelaide Now.

Sanderson vowed to have the Crows play to win in the SANFL. But “the priority is to develop our young players to our game style.”

So pay $14 to see a team not wanting to win and experimenting with game styles and plans and a team that actually wants to win......what a farce!!!!

[csbowes]

I noticed I few posts back West was quoted as saying there are no finals qualification rules in place while the Crows are in the finals.

So... week off in the AFL finals, Crows can put half their team in the local finals?

Doubt it. What benefit would that be? (unless they valued winning the sanfl premiership over the afl premiership...)

I thought the same...

... but one thing I've learnt in business is don't give people the option to do something that's not good just because you don't think they'll ever exercise it.

[Dutchy]

I cant find the average SANFL crowds from recent years that was posted here recently, anyone got them handy?