AFL RESERVES

[UK Fan]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

The SANFL only release very abridged financial reports but from what they publish you can see that gross revenue from AFL games in 2011 was $58.3m and based on the 2011 attendance split of 38/62 the 238,463 people who attended Port games generated revenue of $22.2m (Crows $36.1m). Based on the figures that Port and the Crows quote the NP margin appears to be in the 15% - 20% range, which is understandable given the high price of the food and drink at AAMI. A few years ago Duncanson quoted a figure of $50m net since 1997 - the 2011 figures support that comment.

If only Revenue = Profit

You've got all the figures. Show us :

A) Total revenue
B) Total profit.

If Port generated $22.2m from games at AAMI in 2011 I'd be interested in the profit the SANFL took from that.

Thankyou so much for asking Mr boon. I believe the attached report should answer your questions re : Ports profit/loss for sanfl.

Interesting reading!!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... public_rss

Got to love port fans.

[Booney]

Does that report cover 1997-2012? Love Port haters.

[UK Fan]

Does that report cover 1997-2012? Love Port haters.

I just don't think you've read the article close enough if you keep asking these question mr boon.

Wonders to self . Why does booney reenter this debate when he 100% agrees with me .

What is he trying to prove ??? I wonder......

[Booney]

Since 2007 - Port have been given $14m and change. Thankyou for demonstrating that.

Since 1997 - Port have generated $XXX for the SANFL. Please demonstrate that.






PS - Because I'd hate to see you have nothing to post about.

[CUTTERMAN]

You guys need to get a room. Don't see how this has anything to do with AFL Reserves and why it has been allowed to go on for so long. Start up a another topic maybe.

[JamesH]

who cares about Port..... they are an AFL franchise and we want to keep them away from the SANFL.... we have no obligation to them or the Crows. Let them both go and take their players... the only ones that are of any use are ones the clubs developed themselves.... off the top of my head the only interstate draftee that formed any real club bond with an SANFL club was Mark McKenzie

[FlyingHigh]

Geddes from Sturt?
James Ezard, Ryan Willits?

[sjt]

Ryan Williams.

[Booney]

Yeah, James wants all AFL listed players out of the SANFL anyway, and potential AFL recruits.

[am Bays]

You guys need to get a room. Don't see how this has anything to do with AFL Reserves and why it has been allowed to go on for so long. Start up a another topic maybe.

What, this thread is comedy gold, let them go I say!!

[CUTTERMAN]

Toby Thurstans.

[heater31]

Toby Thurstans.

Ian Perrie even though he had a different club to the one he was at on an AFL list.

[UK Fan]

Afl reserves league seems to be an interesting idea for afl/seven/foxtel. Extra running costs associated with running such a league is the biggest hurdle. Interesting timing for a league that has put so much of its $$$ into two extra teams . I will say afl/seven/foxtel has stated additions of GWS and GC as long term goals for a few years. I Cant recall an independent afl reserves comp being high on its quite public long term agenda.

Maybe seven/ foxtel have greater plans for afl coverage/foxtel cup expansion ???

[JamesH]

I forgot about Geddes... famous as the Crows first draft pick & he hung around Sturt a while.

My point was SANFL clubs tend to get little value from the AFL listed players unless they are home grown.... as they they are gone as soon as delisted.

If losing AFL listed players is the price to keep the Crows and Power out (my club may suffer the most as Salter, Redden, Petrenko, Luke Thompson, Chris Knights etc would leave) then let it be.

[holden78]

SA AFL teams can't afford to fund teams into the VFL, so ffs shut up until you get a hand out from the AFL! It doesn't seem to be hindering the Crows this year now they have a coach with some idea of how to go about winning. Crows and Port should be far more worried about their crowds being down and why? There is no tougher prep into AFL then a full game of SANFL ..... end of discussion.

[sjt]

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/l ... 6437642060

This could be worth another five pages, uk fan and booney?

[CENTURION]

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/league-halt-on-licence-debate/story-e6freck3-1226437642060

This could be worth another five pages, uk fan and booney?

"In business terms, AFL clubs are commonly valued on their earning capacity over the next decade, meaning if a club such as Adelaide stands to make a $2 million profit a year it is worth $20 million."

Does this mean that Port are worth MINUS $20million?

[holden78]

After the weekend, yes their worthless even their own fans will admit that

[topsywaldron]

I'd be happy for the SANFL to pay Port $10M to take their license back, the SANFL would be in front after about three years by my reckoning.

[JamesH]

yep the AFL killed off one basket case called Fitzroy with a history and replaced it with another basket case formed in 1996