SANFL's 10th Team

[SANFLnut]

Still a poor option for top up players that impacts too much on local clubs. Mayes, Toumpas, Menzel, Grundy, Amato, Montgomery, Irra have all played some really exciting league footy for their clubs. To have these players plucked away from home SANFL clubs is not a good thing. Playing 15 reserves games for the Crows and then getting drafted to Hawthorn will not help the development of these kids.

SANFL clubs would not be obliged to release these players.

[pipers]

Still a poor option for top up players that impacts too much on local clubs. Mayes, Toumpas, Menzel, Grundy, Amato, Montgomery, Irra have all played some really exciting league footy for their clubs. To have these players plucked away from home SANFL clubs is not a good thing. Playing 15 reserves games for the Crows and then getting drafted to Hawthorn will not help the development of these kids.

SANFL clubs would not be obliged to release these players.

Agree, still a poor option, but less poor than basically every other proposal I have seen/heard. The idea is that by being listed as a top-up player for an AFL club they have effectively been drafted, but don't play AFL until either a) the following season, b) that AFL club suffers so many injuries that they are required to fill a spot for a few weeks.

[mighty_tiger_79]

The "Cost of Living" has hit all SANFL clubs.

All clubs are in trouble.

Let's all hope we all get through this.

so the GFC is responsible

[holden78]

Why make it soooooo hard, give back the AFL listed players as they ain't ours anyway.
Give the two AFL clubs spots in our Reserve comp and run with it.
That will shut them up and where they get their top up players from who cares!
Oh by the way, it will cost a small fee to play in OUR ressie comp so NO pinching SANFL clubs required players or that fee may rise above CPI
U18's is the most important for SANFL clubs anyway, that's not up for negotiation.

[Sky Pilot]

1. Crows to enter the SANFL with a reserves side and become the 10th team.
2. All Port listed playes to Alberton to play with the Magpies. (given a choice to stay at current SANFL club if it's their original home club)
3. Both AFL reserves teams only able to 'recruit' top up players from rookie list, buying them from other SANFL clubs (if previously contracted) or they must have not played SANFL in atleast X amount of years.
4. All remaining SANFL clubs allowed a higher salary cap and points allocation to recruit and maintain players and coaches etc.

Just thinking we need to keep the highest standard of footy we can here in SA; if the Crows and Power go to an AFL reserves league or some other crap break away conference what will happen to the quality of SANFL.

IF the only fear is thrashings/lack of $$$ I think the comp would become even in time if not from the onset due to the contrainst mentioned above and sponsors, fans, players would stay involved with a new exciting elite brand of football. Plus whats the alternative, sponsors fall away because the AFL influx is gone and the league no longer even gets TV coverage so whats the point...

Also understand the AFL clubs 'train' together more than the other 8 clubs but hell they are now anyway and 5-8 injuries and they're in strife having to use top up players who are either very fresh (rookies) or from outher leagues (less prepared)

I know Im not the only one to think of something similar to this but could it work?

This is all about keeping the Magpies alive and in the SANFL, not about the best interests of the SANFL, bye bye Magpies.

Power/Crows/Eagles/Dockers have their seconds sides in the VFL and the AFL to pay all the association and travel costs.

Get back to 8 SANFL clubs, without the Magpies, with no exixsting AFL players, play 3 rounds x 7 games; 1 home, 1 Away and 1 at Adelaide Oval, No byes - your team plays every week, gives every team a chance to play at the home of football in SA (ADELAIDE OVAL) before the final 4 go through to the finals that is in the best interest of the SANFL, its clubs and the supporters.

I am Go Legs, you know it will happen, make it happen.

Cheers,

X2. I think this makes too much sense to ever be considered by the SANFL

[beenreal]

Disappointingly some seemingly biased points.

Firstly no-one in their right mind is going to 'get rid of' a club such as Sturt or Port. Secondly the AFL is here to stay, the SANFL is NOT bigger or better than the AFL and IF we were stupid enough to let Adelaide and the Power play their entire list interstate then we'd simply be losing money to the Victorians for a range of reasons. Our brand of football will ultimately go backwards until the state league comp simply plays in the suburbs and at west lakes because once the AFL see there's no benefit to supporting the local comp you can bet your bottom dollar that Adelaide oval will magically become off limits for the SANFL or simply too expensive.

Bottom line the SANFL system has some flaws/holes in it that need to be addressed in an unbiased fashion for the betterment of football in this state. If the decision is for the AFL to go to a reserves league of there own then all AFL clubs must be forced into it. The flow on effect of this then must be for each state league to be heavily promoted above that of this new reserves league as the breeding ground for the afl. On reflection this might mean that kids who get drafted only play reserves for X amount of years and come back to state league footy no better without having actually played AFL..? But thats a side note..

Very well made irrelevant points you bring up!!

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Gee UK trolling another Port Adelaide post, who'd a thought?

Won't be a problem for much longer when the AFL takes back the Licences that both AFL clubs have paid for.

It'll be a pleasure to watch the SANFL clubs finally live within their means and most importantly stop bleating about how much AFL football is costing them.

[Wedgie]

Yeah, the SANFL clubs are shaking in their boots at the prospect of not having to fork out millions of dollars to prop up an incompetent club whilst continuing to receive risk free income from Adelaide Oval as well as having prime real estate at West Lakes to do with what they want.
There's only 1 current SANFL club that would be concerned about what's happening and they chose their own fate a while ago.

[mick]

Yeah, the SANFL clubs are shaking in their boots at the prospect of not having to fork out millions of dollars to prop up an incompetent club whilst continuing to receive risk free income from Adelaide Oval as well as having prime real estate at West Lakes to do with what they want.
There's only 1 current SANFL club that would be concerned about what's happening and they chose their own fate a while ago.

Hear Hear

[wild dog]

Disappointingly some seemingly biased points.

.... Secondly the AFL is here to stay, the SANFL is NOT bigger or better than the AFL and IF we were stupid enough to let Adelaide and the Power play their entire list interstate then we'd simply be losing money to the Victorians for a range of reasons. Our brand of football will ultimately go backwards until the state league comp simply plays in the suburbs and at west lakes because once the AFL see there's no benefit to supporting the local comp you can bet your bottom dollar that Adelaide oval will magically become off limits for the SANFL or simply too expensive.

A number of people think the SANFL is better than the AFL, and we are not just talking about the standard of football. So what is your bias, hopefully not another Port Power supporter wanting to weaken the SANFL further.

[wild dog]

Disappointingly some seemingly biased points.

Firstly no-one in their right mind is going to 'get rid of' a club such as Sturt or Port. Secondly the AFL is here to stay, the SANFL is NOT bigger or better than the AFL and IF we were stupid enough to let Adelaide and the Power play their entire list interstate then we'd simply be losing money to the Victorians for a range of reasons. Our brand of football will ultimately go backwards until the state league comp simply plays in the suburbs and at west lakes because once the AFL see there's no benefit to supporting the local comp you can bet your bottom dollar that Adelaide oval will magically become off limits for the SANFL or simply too expensive.

Bottom line the SANFL system has some flaws/holes in it that need to be addressed in an unbiased fashion for the betterment of football in this state. If the decision is for the AFL to go to a reserves league of there own then all AFL clubs must be forced into it. The flow on effect of this then must be for each state league to be heavily promoted above that of this new reserves league as the breeding ground for the afl. On reflection this might mean that kids who get drafted only play reserves for X amount of years and come back to state league footy no better without having actually played AFL..? But thats a side note..

Very well made irrelevant points you bring up!!

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Gee UK trolling another Port Adelaide post, who'd a thought?

Won't be a problem for much longer when the AFL takes back the Licences that both AFL clubs have paid for.

It'll be a pleasure to watch the SANFL clubs finally live within their means and most importantly stop bleating about how much AFL football is costing them.

The perfect example of a Port Power supporter chortling and wringing their hands at the thought of the SANFL getting their comeuppance and begging for scraps from the AFL. How has the Port Adelaide Football Club allowed themselves to be infiltrated with these types of people, so scathing towards the organisation that not only nurtured them but supported them through their darkest hours. Well you're right, Port Power will soon belong to the AFL and the old Port Adelaide will completely dissapear. Very sad for the culture and heritage of this state.

[beenreal]

Disappointingly some seemingly biased points.

Firstly no-one in their right mind is going to 'get rid of' a club such as Sturt or Port. Secondly the AFL is here to stay, the SANFL is NOT bigger or better than the AFL and IF we were stupid enough to let Adelaide and the Power play their entire list interstate then we'd simply be losing money to the Victorians for a range of reasons. Our brand of football will ultimately go backwards until the state league comp simply plays in the suburbs and at west lakes because once the AFL see there's no benefit to supporting the local comp you can bet your bottom dollar that Adelaide oval will magically become off limits for the SANFL or simply too expensive.

Bottom line the SANFL system has some flaws/holes in it that need to be addressed in an unbiased fashion for the betterment of football in this state. If the decision is for the AFL to go to a reserves league of there own then all AFL clubs must be forced into it. The flow on effect of this then must be for each state league to be heavily promoted above that of this new reserves league as the breeding ground for the afl. On reflection this might mean that kids who get drafted only play reserves for X amount of years and come back to state league footy no better without having actually played AFL..? But thats a side note..

Very well made irrelevant points you bring up!!

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Gee UK trolling another Port Adelaide post, who'd a thought?

Won't be a problem for much longer when the AFL takes back the Licences that both AFL clubs have paid for.

It'll be a pleasure to watch the SANFL clubs finally live within their means and most importantly stop bleating about how much AFL football is costing them.

The perfect example of a Port Power supporter chortling and wringing their hands at the thought of the SANFL getting their comeuppance and begging for scraps from the AFL. How has the Port Adelaide Football Club allowed themselves to be infiltrated with these types of people, so scathing towards the organisation that not only nurtured them but supported them through their darkest hours. Well you're right, Port Power will soon belong to the AFL and the old Port Adelaide will completely dissapear. Very sad for the culture and heritage of this state.

Are you sure you're not UK Fan in disguise?

[UK Fan]

Thank you for showing you have no idea about the "new" and "old" Port Adelaide Wild Dog

Thanks for continuing to nit pick at irrelevant points towards the argument.

INSERT smoke and mirrors!!!

[wild dog]

Thank you for showing you have no idea about the "new" and "old" Port Adelaide Wild Dog

Thank you for demonstrating how you view the situation. Begin chortling.

[wild dog]

Gee UK trolling another Port Adelaide post, who'd a thought?

Won't be a problem for much longer when the AFL takes back the Licences that both AFL clubs have paid for.

It'll be a pleasure to watch the SANFL clubs finally live within their means and most importantly stop bleating about how much AFL football is costing them.

The perfect example of a Port Power supporter chortling and wringing their hands at the thought of the SANFL getting their comeuppance and begging for scraps from the AFL. How has the Port Adelaide Football Club allowed themselves to be infiltrated with these types of people, so scathing towards the organisation that not only nurtured them but supported them through their darkest hours. Well you're right, Port Power will soon belong to the AFL and the old Port Adelaide will completely dissapear. Very sad for the culture and heritage of this state.

Are you sure you're not UK Fan in disguise?

Are you sure your a sanfl supporter. I think its obvious who the troll is.

[beenreal]

Gee UK trolling another Port Adelaide post, who'd a thought?

Won't be a problem for much longer when the AFL takes back the Licences that both AFL clubs have paid for.

It'll be a pleasure to watch the SANFL clubs finally live within their means and most importantly stop bleating about how much AFL football is costing them.

The perfect example of a Port Power supporter chortling and wringing their hands at the thought of the SANFL getting their comeuppance and begging for scraps from the AFL. How has the Port Adelaide Football Club allowed themselves to be infiltrated with these types of people, so scathing towards the organisation that not only nurtured them but supported them through their darkest hours. Well you're right, Port Power will soon belong to the AFL and the old Port Adelaide will completely dissapear. Very sad for the culture and heritage of this state.

Are you sure you're not UK Fan in disguise?

Are you sure your a sanfl supporter. I think its obvious who the troll is.

I'd attend at least one SANFL game per weekend, perhaps more if there's a good fixture, ie, night game at the Bay, Parade, etc.

Then I go back to hiding under my bridge.

[Champ]

Disappointingly some seemingly biased points.

.... Secondly the AFL is here to stay, the SANFL is NOT bigger or better than the AFL and IF we were stupid enough to let Adelaide and the Power play their entire list interstate then we'd simply be losing money to the Victorians for a range of reasons. Our brand of football will ultimately go backwards until the state league comp simply plays in the suburbs and at west lakes because once the AFL see there's no benefit to supporting the local comp you can bet your bottom dollar that Adelaide oval will magically become off limits for the SANFL or simply too expensive.

A number of people think the SANFL is better than the AFL, and we are not just talking about the standard of football. So what is your bias, hopefully not another Port Power supporter wanting to weaken the SANFL further.

My inital post and subsequent other posts have nothing to do with Port Power, Port Adelaide or me being a supporter or whatever of either of those clubs. I'm glad however it's created some good points and great debate however the notion of a hidden agenda on an internet forum is a bit far fetched.
I still stand by the point that if somethings not done all the die hard, anti AFL fans best be digging deep and attending games religiously well into the next generation of their family trees if South Australian Football is going to survive and more importantly prosper.
Sell, give away, hand back, raffle off, scrap book do what ever with the AFL licenses! As a proud South Australian I just want to see our state out and out promoted as the proven best football state, I want to see bumper crowds, passionate fans, the best footballers (coming back from or going into the AFL) all here in SA.

[wild dog]

Gee UK trolling another Port Adelaide post, who'd a thought?

Won't be a problem for much longer when the AFL takes back the Licences that both AFL clubs have paid for.

It'll be a pleasure to watch the SANFL clubs finally live within their means and most importantly stop bleating about how much AFL football is costing them.

The perfect example of a Port Power supporter chortling and wringing their hands at the thought of the SANFL getting their comeuppance and begging for scraps from the AFL. How has the Port Adelaide Football Club allowed themselves to be infiltrated with these types of people, so scathing towards the organisation that not only nurtured them but supported them through their darkest hours. Well you're right, Port Power will soon belong to the AFL and the old Port Adelaide will completely dissapear. Very sad for the culture and heritage of this state.

Are you sure you're not UK Fan in disguise?

Are you sure your a sanfl supporter. I think its obvious who the troll is.

I'd attend at least one SANFL game per weekend, perhaps more if there's a good fixture, ie, night game at the Bay, Parade, etc.

Then I go back to hiding under my bridge.

Are you sure you're not Tony Dey?

[wild dog]

I still stand by the point that if somethings not done all the die hard, anti AFL fans best be digging deep and attending games religiously well into the next generation of their family trees if South Australian Football is going to survive and more importantly prosper.
Sell, give away, hand back, raffle off, scrap book do what ever with the AFL licenses! As a proud South Australian I just want to see our state out and out promoted as the proven best football state, I want to see bumper crowds, passionate fans, the best footballers (coming back from or going into the AFL) all here in SA.

Thats if we keep the current model. 10 SANFL clubs and 1 AFL franchise seems a good fit. 2 AFL franchises with the SANFL at its current profile does not seem possible. Port Power is bankrupt and would not have been able to pay its way for the last couple of years if it weren't for the SANFL, which can no longer support such a marginal high risk venture. When things are going well it makes money, when not going so well it haemorrhages.

At least with the reserves issue the SANFL clubs have leverage. The benefits of fringe AFL players developing in a high level competition such as the SANFL outweighs the nuances of team tactics, not to mention the financial benefits. So IMHOtTalk about reserves teams from the AFL all you want, but the real issue we should be tackling first is what is the best model for football in this state.

[stan]

I cant see this working. Even the idea seems far fetched.

[Champ]

If the AFL is willing to float a second team in Sydney then there will be no way that South Australia will be reduced to one team.

If short sighted people want to bang on about the Power and have one team in the AFL and still refer to SA as the best state for football then....