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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby Slots It Through » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:57 pm

scoob wrote:These players are contracted to play AFL not SANFL... If an SANFL club wants to pay the players contract for them to play for them in finals then go ahead.

Also opens up a can of worms for the AFL should they get injured and miss a year with a knee recon for example - or miss 70% of the preseason... should the SANFL pay out the players contract?



Well said. The other thing to consider, is that some of these players may not be certain to stay at Port or the Crows next season, so the AFL club may not want them to play SANFL finals because if they do get injured, the AFL club will have to pay for them whilst they are not even on the list.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby Jim05 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:08 pm

scoob wrote:These players are contracted to play AFL not SANFL... If an SANFL club wants to pay the players contract for them to play for them in finals then go ahead.

Also opens up a can of worms for the AFL should they get injured and miss a year with a knee recon for example - or miss 70% of the preseason... should the SANFL pay out the players contract?

Then the SANFL clubs should stick together and ban any of them playing during the season at all.
The Crows will no doubt want guys like Henderson to play SANFL this week if he is not picked for them so Centrals should just not pick him and make him sit this week.
The AFL clubs cant have it both ways, they use the SANFL at their whim. The sooner they get a reserves comp and piss off to the VFL the better
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AFL players games qualified

Postby RustyCage » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:24 pm

What rubbish. Why would the SANFL teams want to make their teams weaker just to spite other people?
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby on the rails » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:29 pm

pafc1870 wrote:Doubt sal or Mitch would be released to the magpies. Even though they don't seem to be a part of the Powers plans going forward, the club wouldn't want them to get injured and risk another club picking them up


Well given that Port have put our players (and some from other clubs) on ice with 1 minor round game to go I would hope that they do the same with the Magpie players this week let alone the finals! This will test the one club issues and the cynics?

Stewart was fit enough to travel to Melbourne and play if needed last weekend but all of sudden is not fit enough for at least the last minor round game? North have known for awhile he would need corrective surgery at seasons end as advised by the Power medicos but what made the injury so much worse when he sat on the sideline last week yet played the week before?

I have always been a big advocate of not relying on AFL listed players and there is always the risk of this type of thing happening or the unknown of them going up and down but the inconsistency this time of the year is baffling to say the least.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby FlyingHigh » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:33 pm

Slots It Through wrote:
scoob wrote:These players are contracted to play AFL not SANFL... If an SANFL club wants to pay the players contract for them to play for them in finals then go ahead.

Also opens up a can of worms for the AFL should they get injured and miss a year with a knee recon for example - or miss 70% of the preseason... should the SANFL pay out the players contract?



Well said. The other thing to consider, is that some of these players may not be certain to stay at Port or the Crows next season, so the AFL club may not want them to play SANFL finals because if they do get injured, the AFL club will have to pay for them whilst they are not even on the list.


The other side of the coin though is that young players show what they can do when the pressure is increased, such as Bernie Vince in 2005, Jarrad Redden and Seb Tape in 2010. I know Vince and Tape weren't on lists then and Redden already was, so just using them as examples, but it certainly helped their reputations as being able to take the next step.
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AFL players games qualified

Postby RustyCage » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:36 pm

The sooner he has the op, the sooner he is back to full fitness and can start training again. I'm sure if sal or banner needed an op they would have it this week too.

Maybe it's the one club thing that's allowing Port players to play at other SANFL clubs this week too, or would mentioning any other team than the magpies go against your anti port rant?
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby on the rails » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:41 pm

pafc1870 wrote:The sooner he has the op, the sooner he is back to full fitness and can start training again. I'm sure if sal or banner needed an op they would have it this week too.

Maybe it's the one club thing that's allowing Port players to play at other SANFL clubs this week too, or would mentioning any other team than the magpies go against your anti port rant?


Anti-Port? Maybe - but the sooner the Power get Reserves and the Magpies disolve into history then we won't have to worry will we!
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby sjt » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:47 pm

pafc1870 wrote:The sooner he has the op, the sooner he is back to full fitness and can start training again. I'm sure if sal or banner needed an op they would have it this week too.

Maybe it's the one club thing that's allowing Port players to play at other SANFL clubs this week too, or would mentioning any other team than the magpies go against your anti port rant?


It's more interesting to see what players are allowed to play for the teams still trying to get a spot in the 5 (competing against Port Magpies)-North, Eagles and Glenelg. Central (have none) Norwood (have the bye), West, South and Sturt aren't relevant re position on the ladder, but are depending on who they play.
Teams picked Thursday will be interesting.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby scoob » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:53 pm

Jim05 wrote:
scoob wrote:These players are contracted to play AFL not SANFL... If an SANFL club wants to pay the players contract for them to play for them in finals then go ahead.

Also opens up a can of worms for the AFL should they get injured and miss a year with a knee recon for example - or miss 70% of the preseason... should the SANFL pay out the players contract?

Then the SANFL clubs should stick together and ban any of them playing during the season at all.
The Crows will no doubt want guys like Henderson to play SANFL this week if he is not picked for them so Centrals should just not pick him and make him sit this week.
The AFL clubs cant have it both ways, they use the SANFL at their whim. The sooner they get a reserves comp and piss off to the VFL the better


You pretty much sum up the answer - the crows are still alive and need a player to continue playing so he will be paid by the AFL club to play (benfitial to both SANFL & AFL clubs)... Port on the other hand are finished - why would they risk their financial investment when it only has the potential to negatively effect the AFL team in the future.

If you had a racehorse would you let it run when it wasn't fully fit or had a niggle for someone else to take the prize money?

If the SANFL team don't want the influence of the AFL players in their clubs and the 'circus' that comes with it - there is a simple course of action don't particate in the mini draft at the start of the year and/or remove any AFL players from your club.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby o five » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:28 pm

Crows and Power reserves team in the VFL is what any true SANFL supporter should be wanting now after this kick in the teeth again by Port. Honestly how can you build a team around a select few of AFL listed players who you have to play and must play in their selected positions during the minor round, only to be ruled out when it comes to the business end of the year. :x
Yes I agree that they are contracted to the AFL teams, but that is not helping my team or any other in the SANFL.
Move them all on to a feeder comp like the VFL where it don`t mean squat if you win a premiership.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby beenreal » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:29 pm

pafc1870 wrote:What rubbish. Why would the SANFL teams want to make their teams weaker just to spite other people?


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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby scoob » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:44 pm

o five wrote:Crows and Power reserves team in the VFL is what any true SANFL supporter should be wanting now after this kick in the teeth again by Port. Honestly how can you build a team around a select few of AFL listed players who you have to play and must play in their selected positions during the minor round, only to be ruled out when it comes to the business end of the year. :x
Yes I agree that they are contracted to the AFL teams, but that is not helping my team or any other in the SANFL.
Move them all on to a feeder comp like the VFL where it don`t mean squat if you win a premiership.


As I said - don't play them if its an issue for your club come finals time... and with out them there may not be a business end of the year.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby Slots It Through » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:08 pm

on the rails wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:Doubt sal or Mitch would be released to the magpies. Even though they don't seem to be a part of the Powers plans going forward, the club wouldn't want them to get injured and risk another club picking them up


Well given that Port have put our players (and some from other clubs) on ice with 1 minor round game to go I would hope that they do the same with the Magpie players this week let alone the finals! This will test the one club issues and the cynics?

Stewart was fit enough to travel to Melbourne and play if needed last weekend but all of sudden is not fit enough for at least the last minor round game? North have known for awhile he would need corrective surgery at seasons end as advised by the Power medicos but what made the injury so much worse when he sat on the sideline last week yet played the week before?

I have always been a big advocate of not relying on AFL listed players and there is always the risk of this type of thing happening or the unknown of them going up and down but the inconsistency this time of the year is baffling to say the least.


Its already been done, they wrapped up John Butcher, Jacobs and Surjan. Last season they made Brett Ebert unavailable for SANFL finals (if we had made it). A couple of weeks ago the Power dropped Daniel Stewart back to North for one week, just to play against the Magpies. Not alot of favouritism there.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:35 pm

Slots It Through wrote:
on the rails wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:Doubt sal or Mitch would be released to the magpies. Even though they don't seem to be a part of the Powers plans going forward, the club wouldn't want them to get injured and risk another club picking them up


Well given that Port have put our players (and some from other clubs) on ice with 1 minor round game to go I would hope that they do the same with the Magpie players this week let alone the finals! This will test the one club issues and the cynics?

Stewart was fit enough to travel to Melbourne and play if needed last weekend but all of sudden is not fit enough for at least the last minor round game? North have known for awhile he would need corrective surgery at seasons end as advised by the Power medicos but what made the injury so much worse when he sat on the sideline last week yet played the week before?

I have always been a big advocate of not relying on AFL listed players and there is always the risk of this type of thing happening or the unknown of them going up and down but the inconsistency this time of the year is baffling to say the least.


Its already been done, they wrapped up John Butcher, Jacobs and Surjan. Last season they made Brett Ebert unavailable for SANFL finals (if we had made it). A couple of weeks ago the Power dropped Daniel Stewart back to North for one week, just to play against the Magpies. Not alot of favouritism there.

North have lost 4 of their players as well.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby Mic » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:13 pm

How would Power afford a reserves team when they can't even afford a league team?
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby Brad » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:01 pm

Port Power can go and get stuffed.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby Mic » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:15 pm

Brad wrote:Port Power can go and get stuffed.


They're already stuffed.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:32 pm

Mic wrote:How would Power afford a reserves team when they can't even afford a league team?

coz the players get paid less?
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby ORDoubleBlues » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:29 pm

Without knowing the full list of not availables for both AFL clubs, I hope there's not a situation like the Myke Cook one last year where a player is ruled out by the AFL club and then ends up getting delisted anyway.
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Re: AFL players games qualified

Postby the wizard » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:01 pm

i can understand stewart and moore not made available to play, but blee who played the first 15 or so games and gets call up cose of injures, then not made available cose of sore back,when he has got a week off hopefully before our next game smells a bit off to me
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