Ron Fuller on club zones

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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby am Bays » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:50 pm

Bump

I wonder if the topic of Ronnies Blog this week will be: "Why South are denying their country and Metro U/17s a chance to compete in the SANFL U/17s championships by being the only SANFL club not fill a side"

Would be interesting to read Souths reasons for not taking the opportunity to a) promote their club in their zones, b) give a talented junior coach in their leagues a chance to coach a representative side, c) give bottom aged U18 kids a chance to play in key positions in a representative team to see how they perform in different positions, and d) expose kids to sports science preparation standards??

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Kudos to Sturt and Norwood for combining with another club to give some extra kids frrom their zones a chance to play in the carnival on one of the days.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:58 pm

Is that the same "sports science" that is used to prepare Australian fast bowlers?
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby smac » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:22 pm

Not a lot wrong with the science, just need to convince the selectors to listen to it.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby holden78 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:00 am

Ron's not deflecting from South's onfield performances re. time wasting trip to stroke the old ego via the Roxtel Cup; say it ain't so ;)
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby am Bays » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:27 pm

*bump*

Interesting draft boundary for the zones released by the SANFL today, as tweeted by MMCM!
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby RustyCage » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:49 pm

Zone blow for battling Double Blues

MURRAY Bridge will become a South Adelaide feeder area and Kangaroo Island aligned to Norwood under a proposed shake-up of SANFL recruiting zones.

Draft changes were circulated to clubs this week, and the realignment of the River Murray Football League, from Sturt to South, is likely to cause the most angst.

RMFL president Mick O'Hara - whose league includes seven clubs, Mannum, Meningie, Jervois, Mypolonga, Tailem Bend and the Murray Bridge-based Imperials and Ramblers - said he wasn't impressed with the suggested changes.

Port Adelaide, North Adelaide and Central District were the least affected clubs.


South will gain an extra 915 young males in its zone, with West Adelaide (+439) and Glenelg (+234) also set to pick up added numbers.

Sturt (-641), Woodville-West Torrens (-475) and Norwood (-238) are the big losers.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/zone-blow-for-battling-double-blues/story-e6freckc-1226530006123
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby Bunton » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:53 pm

What a joke outcome. South who have by far the lowest number of participants allocated to them loose one crp league and pick up another crap league, while Glenelg who have by far the most participants get an even bigger population.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby am Bays » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:55 pm

Probably because, by the SANFLs own admission, its participation numbers are dodgy or at best not as accurate as the ABS's Census data.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby RustyCage » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:03 pm

Bunton wrote:What a joke outcome. South who have by far the lowest number of participants allocated to them loose one crp league and pick up another crap league, while Glenelg who have by far the most participants get an even bigger population.



surely South gaining 915 kids isn't a bad thing?
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby zipzap » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:04 am

pafc1870 wrote:
Bunton wrote:What a joke outcome. South who have by far the lowest number of participants allocated to them loose one crp league and pick up another crap league, while Glenelg who have by far the most participants get an even bigger population.



surely South gaining 915 kids isn't a bad thing?


Not for them anyway :evil:
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby Jim05 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:24 am

pafc1870 wrote:
Bunton wrote:What a joke outcome. South who have by far the lowest number of participants allocated to them loose one crp league and pick up another crap league, while Glenelg who have by far the most participants get an even bigger population.



surely South gaining 915 kids isn't a bad thing?

Bad for the kids :lol:
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby SDK » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:49 am

SANFL is about traditions, tribal and relationships between lower clubs and schools. How can changing those traditions etc help the game and its development. The comments from the Riverland football League say it all.
South have a big area with the developing Southern area , they just do bugger all with it !!!
A club struggling to survive like Sturt and the SANFL remedy is to rip the guts out of its traditional development areas.
Also the traditional Norwood area where most people follow the Redlegs and have since birth is slowly being erroded to Sturt who in turn lose their traditional areas. How is this helping anyone ?
Give xxxxing KI to South ffs, it is right alongside their current area. Not knocking KI by the way.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby holden78 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:13 am

Over to you Ronny, can't wait for his take on this one :)
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby finals fever » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:45 am

With Tony Bamford, the new Talent Manager starting at SAFC I think you will find the participation in the development areas will pick up significantly. He was a major player in setting up the highly successful development teams / academies throughout the Eyre Peninsula for Port Adelaide. If you have a look at the squads for PAFC this year, alot of the younger players have come from their zones and now playing reserves / league footy.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby Bluedemon » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:06 am

The SANFL are doing their best to make sure Sturt die. Sturt have built up a good relationship with the River Murray League. Why do South gain a league that has been built on well by Sturt? Do something right with your zone first South.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby Wedgie » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:25 am

Sturt screwed again.
The SANFL are sending a strong message.
"Dont develop you areas as you'll probably just lose it to a club that does stuff all in its area and whinges it has no kids drafted or wanting to play for them."
Rewarding incompetence and discouraging decelopment.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby darley16 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:29 am

"South have a big area with the developing Southern area , they just do bugger all with it !!!"
That statement believed by many is absolute rubbish, we don't have a big area in the South, West & Glenelg have the lion's share, that's the problem! As for doing bugger all with what we've got is again spoken by those who follow the noise of the crowd, talk to club about the countless hours spent by many over many years in the tireless work conducted in so many facets of not just footy but broader community activities undertaken by the club. This effort is massive and largely at the clubs cost for little return thus far but it will not be given up by the club, South work their limited zone as hard as any other, if not harder as both the SFL and GSFL have some unfounded hostility towards the SANFL.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby Ronnie » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:42 am

I thought Sturt were the big losers in the last review?
Club's develop their zones in the expectation that any changes that occur will be relatively minor and not devastate either their metro or country areas. In that way the hard work they put in basically should carry on from one review to the next.
In this case a club's entire country zone has been picked up and lifted from one club to another. :shock:
What does taking a baseball bat approach actually say about the previous reviews? Have the figures drastically changed since the last time? I didn't think Sturt's figures were that outstanding anyway.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby am Bays » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:47 am

darley16 wrote:"South have a big area with the developing Southern area , they just do bugger all with it !!!"
That statement believed by many is absolute rubbish, we don't have a big area in the South, West & Glenelg have the lion's share, that's the problem! As for doing bugger all with what we've got is again spoken by those who follow the noise of the crowd, talk to club about the countless hours spent by many over many years in the tireless work conducted in so many facets of not just footy but broader community activities undertaken by the club. This effort is massive and largely at the clubs cost for little return thus far but it will not be given up by the club, South work their limited zone as hard as any other, if not harder as both the SFL and GSFL have some unfounded hostility towards the SANFL.

Sorry Darley absolute facts are after the last distribution of the four "southern" clubs (south, west, sturt and Bays) glenelg had the lowest absolute number of kids in their zone. North had the lowest of all the clubsNow I think the distribution is done so all clubs have the same number plus or minus 5% but in absolute terms you have more eligible kids than us to work with and develop into league footballers.
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Re: Ron Fuller on club zones

Postby Wedgie » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:47 am

Ive lived in the south since 1991. I played football for a club in souths zone for 10 years, my son has played 6 years of primary school footy in souths zone and hes also played one year of club. Ive been involved at two clubs and have knkwn dozens of players and club board members for several clubs. Both of my kids had been through Auskick too.
My kids and I have encountered more people from the Crows, Port, the 36ers and the NRL as well as countless other sporting bodies than from South!
If South are working as hard as the other clubs then god help the SANFL.
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