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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby whufc » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:07 pm

Out of our 20 games, 7 times Central play teams who have a bye the previous week

Interesting!
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:10 pm

saintal wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Sturt v Port in June starts at 11.15am

:oops: :oops: :roll: Thats really going to draw the crowds...


Farcial isn't it.

It will be an even bigger farce if Sturt/Norwood season ticket holders have to buy a ticket to go to their respective curtain raiser.

Is it any coincidence that Sturt and Norwood are the 2 teams who have 2 home games against Port? It smells like a deal has been done with Sturt and Norwood - "bad luck you have to play a curtain raiser against Port, but to make up for it we've given you 2 home games against them which should get good attendances and money in the club coffers".
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Hopeful Jelly » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:13 pm

bayman wrote:have these clubs been given a reason ($) to agree to this ?

I think you are on the money Bayman.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby PhilH » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:30 pm

Norwood Season Ticket Holders, Sturt Season Ticket Holders and Port Magpies Home Match / Season Tickets
SURELY MUSTget access to AFL curtain raisers as part of their ticket.


Many have already paid for a these tickets prior to the schedule coming out.

They paid for entrance to 10 / 20 games, thats was contract offered by the Clubs / SANFL and that is what the purchaser agreed to when they bought a ticket.

In addition I believe they should receive access to the AAMI Stadium Members area for these games rather that set seats which scatters supporters everywhere.

It was also make for easier logistics as they could turn up to the members office window, show their SANFL ticket and get what is in effect a guest members pass for the day.

In fact all club Home Match / Season Ticket holders should in my opinion have access to the AAMI Stadium members area for finals but that is another matter.

As for car parking ... well thats not part of the contract BUT you can get a FREE Bus (Will they be early enough ??) or street parking may still be available at this early stage of the day.

At least an extra canteen / bar from the day goes to the SANFL and hence the 9 clubs.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Jim05 » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:27 pm

Thanks Phil
My brother and i havnt missed a match for that long i cant remember. We both take a child and are both members with free car park and grandstand seats. I am worried we will be forced to fork out additional money for these 2 curtain raisers. I have already paid my membership and was under the impression i would get into ALL games. I will still attend but surely this needs sorting out. I dont want to watch the afl match and dont want to pay top dollar for a match already included in my membership
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby prowling panther » Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:50 pm

I suggest Sturt and Norwood fans write a 'poor me' letter to Mr Demitrio at AFL HQ, he thought of the idea, he must have a solution to it.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Jardarf » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:17 pm

I noticed in Round 7 all games are Night matches (2 Friday night, 2 Saturday night). Isn't there a clause stating one game has to be played on Saturday afternoon to accommodate the ABC Tv requirements? I've come up with a few suggestions why this might be but hoping someone can set me straight about what's happening that round
1. We finally get SANFL football broadcast on tv on a saturday evening (highly unlikely as this will clash with AFL on another channel, which on this occasion will be Sydney V Power).
2. There will be no SANFL TV broadcast that day (which would annoy all of us).
or 3. The ABC gets to show the East Coast Eagles V Port Magpies Champions league match being played as a curtain raiser to the Sydney/Power game, but I'm pretty sure all those matches are sold to Foxtel.
Anyone got any other suggestions what's happening that round?
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Jardarf » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:33 pm

....and while I'm in a ranting mood....
How come there aren't more matches scheduled for Adelaide Oval?
6 games this year is a good start, but surely we can go back to the more fairer system where if any club has to play another for a 3rd time, then have at least one of those matches played at Adelaide Oval or a neutral venue to make it fair.
It's really unfair to make Central or South players and fans travel to the other end of the city more than once a year. That 3rd match scheduled at Noarlunga should be at Adelaide Oval, under lights or on a Saturday arvo would still be more appealing than the long trip to the other end of town.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Big Phil » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:00 pm

Jardarf wrote:I noticed in Round 7 all games are Night matches (2 Friday night, 2 Saturday night). Isn't there a clause stating one game has to be played on Saturday afternoon to accommodate the ABC Tv requirements? I've come up with a few suggestions why this might be but hoping someone can set me straight about what's happening that round
1. We finally get SANFL football broadcast on tv on a saturday evening (highly unlikely as this will clash with AFL on another channel, which on this occasion will be Sydney V Power).
2. There will be no SANFL TV broadcast that day (which would annoy all of us).
or 3. The ABC gets to show the East Coast Eagles V Port Magpies Champions league match being played as a curtain raiser to the Sydney/Power game, but I'm pretty sure all those matches are sold to Foxtel.
Anyone got any other suggestions what's happening that round?



I wouldn't be surprised if the ABC record one of the Friday night games and then replay it in the Saturday afternoon time slot...
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Jimmy » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:48 pm

Hopeful Jelly wrote:
saintal wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Sturt v Port in June starts at 11.15am

:oops: :oops: :roll: Thats really going to draw the crowds...


Farcial isn't it.

It will be an even bigger farce if Sturt/Norwood season ticket holders have to buy a ticket to go to their respective curtain raiser.


Tell me about it, that would be an insult. A joke.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Jimmy » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:51 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Jardarf wrote:I noticed in Round 7 all games are Night matches (2 Friday night, 2 Saturday night). Isn't there a clause stating one game has to be played on Saturday afternoon to accommodate the ABC Tv requirements? I've come up with a few suggestions why this might be but hoping someone can set me straight about what's happening that round
1. We finally get SANFL football broadcast on tv on a saturday evening (highly unlikely as this will clash with AFL on another channel, which on this occasion will be Sydney V Power).
2. There will be no SANFL TV broadcast that day (which would annoy all of us).
or 3. The ABC gets to show the East Coast Eagles V Port Magpies Champions league match being played as a curtain raiser to the Sydney/Power game, but I'm pretty sure all those matches are sold to Foxtel.
Anyone got any other suggestions what's happening that round?



I wouldn't be surprised if the ABC record one of the Friday night games and then replay it in the Saturday afternoon time slot...


They did this back in 98 when sturt played Norwood in rd 1 or 2.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby spell_check » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:38 pm

They might have for Round 2 1998 Jimmy, but I know they definitely did that for Round 11:

Norwood 2.2 2.8 4.9 4.12 (36)
Sturt 3.2 3.6 3.9 3.10 (28)
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Norwood: Harley 1.4, O'Brien, Cook 1.1, Direen 1.0, McIntosh 0.2, Cunningham, Fosdike 0.1, Rushed 0.2.
Sturt: Twitt, Kartinyeri 1.2, Irvin 1.0, AhChee, French, Standfield 0.1, Rushed 0.3.

Sometime from then until the last round of 2008, that was not an option. Therefore games such as the Glenelg/South playoff for a finals spot in 2006 had to be played on the Saturday up against the Crows final. And it deserved more than a paltry 1992 spectators.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Barto » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:16 pm

Just boycott the curtain raisers.
It's all the SANFL's fault.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Sojourner » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:52 pm

Barto wrote:Just boycott the curtain raisers.


Clearly those in charge of fixing the draw believe that the 7-8k of people that could have attended the stand alone match will largely turn up instead to the AFL match and given them a crowd increase as a result.

I am not sure why they didn't just take up with the suggestion of having the match after an AFL game, that way they still get their numbers, the SANFL fans can come afterwards with their home match ticket or get in at the usual SANFL entry price. People can be there to watch the game, run the bars and so on and not have the ludicrous situation of people standing up talking in front of people trying to watch the game. Instead the results are likely to be your suggestion above with a lot of angst to go with it.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:42 am

spell_check wrote:They might have for Round 2 1998 Jimmy, but I know they definitely did that for Round 11:

Norwood 2.2 2.8 4.9 4.12 (36)
Sturt 3.2 3.6 3.9 3.10 (28)
Norwood, 8253

Norwood: Harley 1.4, O'Brien, Cook 1.1, Direen 1.0, McIntosh 0.2, Cunningham, Fosdike 0.1, Rushed 0.2.
Sturt: Twitt, Kartinyeri 1.2, Irvin 1.0, AhChee, French, Standfield 0.1, Rushed 0.3.

Sometime from then until the last round of 2008, that was not an option. Therefore games such as the Glenelg/South playoff for a finals spot in 2006 had to be played on the Saturday up against the Crows final. And it deserved more than a paltry 1992 spectators.


I remember that game, crappy weather hence the low scores.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Voice » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:12 am

Barto wrote:Just boycott the curtain raisers.

Works ok for me though as I would have gone to see Carlton anyway. Looks like I'll be at the Sturt game at 11am, then off to the pub in between games as I'm not going to pay for drinks at AAMI, then back for the Carlton game. Won't have to change either as I'll just wear my double blue Carlton guernsey the whole day!
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Barto » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:27 pm

Sojourner wrote:
Barto wrote:Just boycott the curtain raisers.


Clearly those in charge of fixing the draw believe that the 7-8k of people that could have attended the stand alone match will largely turn up instead to the AFL match and given them a crowd increase as a result.

I am not sure why they didn't just take up with the suggestion of having the match after an AFL game, that way they still get their numbers, the SANFL fans can come afterwards with their home match ticket or get in at the usual SANFL entry price. People can be there to watch the game, run the bars and so on and not have the ludicrous situation of people standing up talking in front of people trying to watch the game. Instead the results are likely to be your suggestion above with a lot of angst to go with it.



That's way too intelligent. Must have the 'lesser' game first, it's tradition isn't it? Cant think outside the square can they?

Would be excellent for people just wanting to see their SANFL side, let them in after 3/4 time with the SANFL season ticket or for SANFL match prices. If people want to come in to check out an AFL game as well then they will come early and pay the full price. Might even get a couple of converts.

The way they have it now will just see people like myself back in the early days of AFL in Adelaide with curtain raisers. Pay full AFL ticket prices to see your team then leave before the "main" game.
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Dutchy » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:47 pm

Chandler said the other night they hadnt worked out how it was going to work for club members yet, therefore Id be giving the NFC and SFC as much feedback as possible before decisions are made. Esp as Port arent going to make $ if they allow season ticket holders/kids in for free

Port are doing this to make more $ no doubt, so if they get less than 30k to the double headers they will be considered failures. Personally I cant see them getting many more than their usual average. The first game of the might have a chance being the season opener but the Sturt game in June starting at 11.15am?

Are Port trying to get Sturt/Norwood fans to the game to try and convert them to the AFL animal?
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby Jim05 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:31 pm

If i go i will leave at end of sanfl game and wont spend a dollar at aami. Not interested in watching the power puffs
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Re: 2011 SANFL Draw

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:44 pm

Dutchy wrote:Chandler said the other night they hadnt worked out how it was going to work for club members yet, therefore Id be giving the NFC and SFC as much feedback as possible before decisions are made. Esp as Port arent going to make $ if they allow season ticket holders/kids in for free

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If port dont allow Season Tickets and kidds in for free then its a disgrace and the fans of NFC and SFC and any other club in the future playing a curtain raiser should be entitled to some compensation on their season tickets
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