beenreal wrote:CUTTERMAN wrote:finn wrote:If the Magpies become a reserves side of the Power, what happens to Port's under 18 and reserves sides? Do they become a feeder side to fill in the reserves and what happens to the Magpies country zones as they would then be the only club with a designated zone? What happens to SANFL players drafted by the Power? What happens to those supporterswho don't identify solely with either - eg the kid in the prelim budget who was a Magpies and Crows supporter?
Merging administration would give the Magpies more money to spend as this would be covered by the AFL club and potentially the tv earnings etc from the AFL (correct me if wrong here). The SANFL have loaned the Power money - would this then be used to pay Magpie admin costs?
I also believe that if a reserves side is ok'd then adelaide will understandably want their own leading to a further draining of players from the local clubs to fill this side. It seems to be a thin edge of wedge stuff to me and one step closer to the AFL being godfather to all competitions.
North, Sturt, Norwood all had financial problems brought about by bad business decisions, especially with regards to location of pokie emporiums, Port Magpies are paying the price for locating theirs within earshot of the Power club and relocation to another site within their zone, or renovation within the present site may change their receipts. I don't believe that the other SANFL clubs should pay for these bad decisions with a threat to the competition.
I'm happy to be convinced of the need to merge especially if it upholds the strength and integrity of the SANFL.
Well put Finn, and I hear myself say again, what happens when Sturt or any other SANFL club is on the verge of folding, who do they merge with?
AND, can someone please explain how PAMFC can be so financially strained if their attendences are equal to that of Sturts as is their memberships and probably the income generated by TPOW compared to Barzaar for Sturt, add to that Sturts matchday expenses are considerably more than any other club in the comp.
This is bullshit bullshit bullshit, once again this is BULLSHIT!
This arsehole club will be the end of the SANFL.
Still smarting from the Grand Final loss?
I've tried rationally explaining why the reunification should take place. Why losing 75-85% of our revenue impacts on our on-field performance. Why having another club sharing the same name, the same oval and appealing to the same supporter base has impacted on our off-field performance.
But people like you don't want to listen.
So I give up. In fact, I'm glad it pisses you and ALL your Port hating brethren off, to the max!
The reunification is going to take place. Our club is going to be put back together. And there is NOTHING you, or Leigh Whicker and his nest of Vipers at the SANFL can do about it!
God that felt good!
Not smarting from a reserves GF loss at all, was a great effort by your boys, so don't be inane.
I'm talking about the health, future and HONEST viability of the SANFL as a stand alone competition. I used Sturt as an example as we have alot of current things in common with the PAMFC financially and concerning crowds. membership etc.
75-85% of your revenue is impacted by sharing a name with another club? There's not many revenue streams for SANFL clubs apart from sponsors, membership, game day takings, fundraisers and draft prospects, on most of these Sturt and Port are pretty well equal (I have no financial place at SFC, but can't really see too many obvious differances) so I can't see how Sturt can still be viable and you guys have your backs against a wall and choose to go for what SEEMS to be the easy option.
To put it simply, how can Sturt be viable and PAMFC not? We are still paying off Barzaar,
question, do PAMFC own the POW outright? Cause if they do then they are in a much better financial position than the SFC, ie both clubs are still trying to make a go of their licenced venues(somewhat unsuccessfully) and Sturt don't yet own Barzaar outright, from what I understand.
So, don't call me a *edited*, and that I haven't listened, I have and I'm trying to understand this all and I still haven't got any real answers, only that you share a bloody name...big deal!
There's other clubs in the league struggling in the financial stakes and on the field, so you're not special, you're one of us, so stop putting yourselves before your mates, we're all in this together.
Finally, I want PAMFC to play in the SANFL and I want them to be viable, but I don't want them to be given any special treatment that will harm the comp or what will never be available to the other 8 clubs. My outlook is for the whole of the SANFL (not an anti Port one nor a pro Sturt one), I just see this as a way that the AFL can manipulate more control over OUR comp and thus give up on more our our history and viability for a strong future. Remember this, the AFL are masters of talk, deception and selling an ideal, but unfortunately the "ideal", the "story" is far from the reality of what the outcome will be, so try to look at the bigger picture and into the future and other possibilities of what just might really happen but of course if your club is happy with an SANFL with an Adelaide and Power reserves side playing in it and feel that it's not going to be compromised then far be it from me or anyone else to tell you that you're making another bad decision for yourselves and for all of us, but we'll be eternally gracious that you made that decision just as we were when a true national comp was sold out of any possibility thanks to WA and your good, well meaning selves.
The reunification is going to take place. Our club is going to be put back together. And there is NOTHING you, or Leigh Whicker and his nest of Vipers at the SANFL can do about it!
Sounds like you're in bed with the devil, if so then you're ******!
'PAFC don't want any advantages in the SANFL. It would only take away from any achievements we earned.'
Keith Thomas ABC 891 Radio, 21/6/14.