2010 Under 18's Grand Final - West Adelaide vs Glenelg

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

Best Players from the Club:

Equal 1st Matt Snook and Jacob Carger
3rd Brad Agnew
4th Clint Diment
5th Ben Kennedy
6th Darcy Armfield

[Mark_Beswick]

Better have a go at Wisdens as well

In years to come when you are trying to plan for your clubs reuinion and find players, good luck if you dont have a full name or initial. With our population now over 21 Million, double up of christian names and surnames is increasing.

On my database there are now 22,000 names. You would be amazed how many have the same first and last name. Also, there are some players with the same first and last names playing in the same season at times AND sometimes in separate comps.

My stats record state players from WA, TAS, SA, VFL, AFL, QLD.... Even the AFL private database has the full names of players and in the future, I suspect that privacy police will not allow full names to be printed. They have withdrawn the alphabetical electoral rolls now.

The AFL prints first names and initials of players where double ups occur. I have heard this paranoid american argument before BUT if you go back to stats in the 1890's to the 1970's, initials are given for all team line-ups and footy budgets.

Hopefully this puts a different side to the story

one last example

M. Hepple (FC which one?) or your clubs H. Hawke at NAFC - Middle initials help distinguish which player on an honour board - looks a darn sight better than bert hawke or Harry on an honour board and stops confusion in years to come when we look back at current day media reports which glance over sanfl stat. If you are a sturt supporter, there are no stats in the last annual report. So it is better to be as accurate as possible in the now.

[robranisgod]

Better have a go at Wisdens as well

In years to come when you are trying to plan for your clubs reuinion and find players, good luck if you dont have a full name or initial. With our population now over 21 Million, double up of christian names and surnames is increasing.

On my database there are now 22,000 names. You would be amazed how many have the same first and last name. Also, there are some players with the same first and last names playing in the same season at times AND sometimes in separate comps.

My stats record state players from WA, TAS, SA, VFL, AFL, QLD.... Even the AFL private database has the full names of players and in the future, I suspect that privacy police will not allow full names to be printed. They have withdrawn the alphabetical electoral rolls now.

The AFL prints first names and initials of players where double ups occur. I have heard this paranoid american argument before BUT if you go back to stats in the 1890's to the 1970's, initials are given for all team line-ups and footy budgets.

Hopefully this puts a different side to the story

one last example

M. Hepple (FC which one?) or your clubs H. Hawke at NAFC - Middle initials help distinguish which player on an honour board - looks a darn sight better than bert hawke or Harry on an honour board and stops confusion in years to come when we look back at current day media reports which glance over sanfl stat. If you are a sturt supporter, there are no stats in the last annual report. So it is better to be as accurate as possible in the now.

Your missing the point completely.

It is incorrect English to refer to someone as H Ron Phillips. That is an americanisation of the language. The correct way is either Horace Ronald Phillips or H.R.Phillips or Ron Phillips, never the American, H Ronald Phillips. You mention Wisden, they never mention A Paul Sheahan, or K Doug Walters.
It is either A.P. Sheahan, K.D. Walters, or Paul Sheahan and Doug Walters or Andrew Paul Sheahan and Kevin Douglas Walters.

Can we just stop being American and get back to our roots for a while.

[Dutchy]

[MagareyLegend]

Best Players from the Club:

Equal 1st Matt Snook and Jacob Carger
3rd Brad Agnew
4th Clint Diment
5th Ben Kennedy
6th Darcy Armfield

Clint Diment was the best and most influential player out of that lot on Sunday.

Ben Kennedy was actually well beaten by Laird who was West's best player.

I guess we all see it differently.

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

Diment is certainly top notch!

Careful ML else you'll upset Bayman if you don't rate Kennedy as a legend

[MagareyLegend]

Diment is certainly top notch!

Careful ML else you'll upset Bayman if you don't rate Kennedy as a legend

Sorry, can seriously play though no question.

[Mark_Beswick]

The English langauge is evolving at a great rate -

To hold onto something based on culture of one country or another is a lippery slope. After all, archaic English found in some dicitionaries published in the old motherland are words and ideals not part of societal standards today - One would hat to think that we fit into this category below where:

""Tradition is the living faith of the dead,
traditionalism is the dead faith of the living."

My mother was a Pome so I certainly have no problems with the English or the Yanks where my many of my cousins are born.
If a footy club doesnt like the ordering of names and initials, their boards will act accordingly when they write their own annual reports and update their honour boards.

I think the most important aspect is getting the information accurate - Anyone can disseminate the raw data how they then see fit for whatever purpose they intend of it -

I will refrain from further discussion on this topic and get back to Footy conversation here-on-in.

[grant j]

DVD of game now available on the SANFL website

[bayman]

Diment is certainly top notch!

Careful ML else you'll upset Bayman if you don't rate Kennedy as a legend

absolute rubbish 85wagy, everyone sees a game differently & surely thats fine ?, i think you don't like him would be more to the point, anyway i thought kennedy was good without being outstanding, i thought his smother & subsequent goal was the spark that set them alight, young matt snook got the medal & yet another 6 or 7 could have easily earned it as well

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

Diment is certainly top notch!

Careful ML else you'll upset Bayman if you don't rate Kennedy as a legend

absolute rubbish 85wagy, everyone sees a game differently & surely thats fine ?, i think you don't like him would be more to the point, anyway i thought kennedy was good without being outstanding, i thought his smother & subsequent goal was the spark that set them alight, young matt snook got the medal & yet another 6 or 7 could have easily earned it as well

I agree, this forum gives people the opportunity to discuss their differing opinions, and isn't that what I said in my earlier post Bayman?

Not sure if Bayman is jestfully trying to bait me or not , but I can't see any point in writing out the whole team list.
The players I named are the ones I thought people who don't follow the U18s comp usually, may be interested in watching.
Bayman mentioned a couple he wants to add, no worries. Thats what a forum is for.
For people who are interested Re: Bayman's players to watch - James Hinge wears 29, and Ben Kennedy 1.

I wasn't the one who mentioned that Kennedy's opponent was awarded WAFC Best Player award, so not sure why you think I don't like him