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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby wycbloods » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:32 am

sjt wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
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SJABC wrote:So both players throw a punch and nothing :roll:


Chris didn't throw a punch.



Just an elbow.

More accurate. Not in the same league as Hartlett's jumping elbow on Switala, which drew blood and forced him from the ground though. Hartlett, guilty only one match. The tribunal is a lot more lenient nowadays. Point of difference to the AFL.


Hartlett didn't get suspended.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby whufc » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:33 am

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whufc wrote:the norwood forum is great for outrageous comments. like the bloke in the post game review who said the crowd was more than 50 per cent norwood talk about being one eyed.


Actually, there was a huge red and blue contingent on the eastern wing so I wouldn't be surprised if there were more than 50% Norwood people there. You guys were even complimentary about our turn out! Regardless, we cant win - as I said before, you guys laid the pressure on thick for the Norwood crowd to attend. Fair enough. Not unreasonable in many ways at all. I even promoted the car parking arrangements. And come the Norwood faithful did. Hey, they didn't even want us to leave because they locked the gates on Goodman St! Yet after the game, the Norwood faithful are described (by some) as bandwagoners on here and on CDFC Info. Comments about new merchandise, etc etc etc. Realistically, few people would drive all that way to Elizabeth if they were bandwagoners.

If you want to discuss bandwagoners, here's a stat to think about:

CDFC membership figures
1999 - 1,150
2000 - 1,362 (year won first flag)
2001 - 1,936 (year after first flag - up 42%, where'd they come from?)

2006 - 2,940
2007 - 2,305 (the year after the 2006 GF loss - down 22%, where'd they go?)

it was a great turnout by norwood but to think there was more norwood supporters there than central fans is ridiculous. that would mean there would have been more than 1700 norwood fans.

that is almost the funniest thing i have ever read.

as for bandwagoners every club has em every club needs em im only talking about the turnout and no way was there more norwood supporters than dogs. i spent the whole game behind either goals and members side wing and apart from the spirit i saw no more than 50 norwood people
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby sjt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:38 am

wycbloods wrote:
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SJABC wrote:So both players throw a punch and nothing :roll:


Chris didn't throw a punch.



Just an elbow.

More accurate. Not in the same league as Hartlett's jumping elbow on Switala, which drew blood and forced him from the ground though. Hartlett, guilty only one match. The tribunal is a lot more lenient nowadays. Point of difference to the AFL.[/quote]

Hartlett didn't get suspended.[/quote]

Sorry, you're correct. He was found guilty and reprimanded. That helps put things in perspective.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Pseudo » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:49 am

sjt wrote:
SJABC wrote:So both players throw a punch and nothing :roll:


Chris didn't throw a punch.

Soft. :lol:
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby am Bays » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:52 am

sjt wrote:
wycbloods wrote:Hartlett didn't get suspended.


Sorry, you're correct. He was found guilty and reprimanded. That helps put things in perspective.


Hmm an elbow to the head..... and no games, Dear Mr Avatar how do you fell about that.... (especially as it was in response to incident 3 mins before hand - the retaliation excuse)...

Inconsistant you make up your mind - I know I have....
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Big Phil » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:57 am

Whilst this thread isn't specifically about the Gowans' twins, many may be surprised that between them, they have only been reported about half a dozen times. Yes, they have fronted the tribunal on a few extra occassions, being on the other end a couple of times as well.

In 10 years of league football between them, from what I have been able to find out, they been suspended for a total of 3 games and they were all for James from the 2007 GF incident with Schubert.

See for yourself, makes for some interesting reading:

2003:

2nd Semi Final, Chris Gowans was reported for striking West Adelaide's Shane Tuck with an elbow, was given a reprimand, not sure of reporting umpire?



2004:

Round 2, James was reported for striking Glenelgs' Paul Sherwood in the third quarter by Gary Fila. He was given a reprimand.

Round 3, Chris was reported for kneeing Eagles' Paul Lindsay by Craig Doddridge; and was found not guilty.

Round 7, Norwoods' Russell Haythorpe was reported by Richard Williams for striking Chris, Haythorpe received a 2 game suspension.



2006:

2nd Semi Final, Chris was reported for striking the Eagles Dale Symmons with an open hand slap to the face, classified as 'wreckless'. Was given a reprimand.



2010:

Round 17, Chris (and Sam Rowe) were reported via video review for striking Norwood's Rowe in an incident after the final siren. Chris Gowans found not guilty, Sam Rowe given a reprimand.


Unable to confirm the year the following 2 incidents took place involving either Gowans' twin being at the tribunal but David Clarke was reported for striking Chris when he was playing for South Adelaide, not sure of the outcome there.

Also, I can't remember his christian name but there was an incident involving a Sturt player with Smith as the surname I think who was sent to the tribunla for wiping blood on Chris in a game at Unley a few seasons ago. I think the Sturt player was a doctor or med student from memory.

Whilst I agree the Gowans boys push the limits more often than not, the talk that they get away with everything with the umpires is not tru IMO, I would think they would have the most 25m penalties paid aginst them combined than many may actually think.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby JK » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:03 am

Big Phil wrote:Whilst I agree the Gowans boys push the limits more often than not, the talk that they get away with everything with the umpires is not tru IMO


The fact they've only been reported 6 times might defeat your argument mate ;)

I love the way these boys play and barring the one incident in the Grand Final (which received due punishment), I've not actually ever seen them do anything thuggish .. Niggly, annoying, provactive yep, but that's football and players need to be able to cope with that everytime they take the field.

Im sure they're no angels and they have transgressed before, just as Im sure they been transgressed against, but I think some incidents have been blown out of proportion a little as time goes by.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:08 am

I'm sorry CP, but you wont get me helping in your argument to defend them.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:12 am

That's all right Booney, I'm sure you won't get many of us defending the Port thugs of years past either ;)
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby sjt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:22 am

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Big Phil wrote:Whilst I agree the Gowans boys push the limits more often than not, the talk that they get away with everything with the umpires is not tru IMO


The fact they've only been reported 6 times might defeat your argument mate ;)

I love the way these boys play and barring the one incident in the Grand Final (which received due punishment), I've not actually ever seen them do anything thuggish .. Niggly, annoying, provactive yep, but that's football and players need to be able to cope with that everytime they take the field.

Im sure they're no angels and they have transgressed before, just as Im sure they been transgressed against, but I think some incidents have been blown out of proportion a little as time goes by.


I agree. Thanks BP for actually incorporating some facts. What they show is Chris has been found guilty twice (no games) and James has been found guilty twice (three games). A pretty good record for two guys over the last, almost eleven years and over 400 games.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Booney » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:25 am

Dogwatcher wrote:That's all right Booney, I'm sure you won't get many of us defending the Port thugs of years past either ;)


So you're admitting they are thugs then? Cool, end of debate. Well played DW, saved us all a little time. :lol:
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby whufc » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:47 am

Constance_Perm wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Whilst I agree the Gowans boys push the limits more often than not, the talk that they get away with everything with the umpires is not tru IMO


The fact they've only been reported 6 times might defeat your argument mate ;)

I love the way these boys play and barring the one incident in the Grand Final (which received due punishment), I've not actually ever seen them do anything thuggish .. Niggly, annoying, provactive yep, but that's football and players need to be able to cope with that everytime they take the field.

Im sure they're no angels and they have transgressed before, just as Im sure they been transgressed against, but I think some incidents have been blown out of proportion a little as time goes by.


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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:49 am

Booney wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:That's all right Booney, I'm sure you won't get many of us defending the Port thugs of years past either ;)


So you're admitting they are thugs then? Cool, end of debate. Well played DW, saved us all a little time. :lol:


No, no, not at all.
Aggressive, annoying - yes.
Thugs? No.
Thugs aren't allowed to play any more. Hounded out of the game. Not saying it's a bad thing.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Apachebulldog » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:34 pm

Great decisions all round this is the SANFL real football and not AFL well done tribunal.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby staritski » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:07 pm

Big Phil wrote:Whilst this thread isn't specifically about the Gowans' twins, many may be surprised that between them, they have only been reported about half a dozen times. Yes, they have fronted the tribunal on a few extra occassions, being on the other end a couple of times as well.

In 10 years of league football between them, from what I have been able to find out, they been suspended for a total of 3 games and they were all for James from the 2007 GF incident with Schubert.

See for yourself, makes for some interesting reading:

2003:

2nd Semi Final, Chris Gowans was reported for striking West Adelaide's Shane Tuck with an elbow, was given a reprimand, not sure of reporting umpire?



2004:

Round 2, James was reported for striking Glenelgs' Paul Sherwood in the third quarter by Gary Fila. He was given a reprimand.

Round 3, Chris was reported for kneeing Eagles' Paul Lindsay by Craig Doddridge; and was found not guilty.

Round 7, Norwoods' Russell Haythorpe was reported by Richard Williams for striking Chris, Haythorpe received a 2 game suspension.



2006:

2nd Semi Final, Chris was reported for striking the Eagles Dale Symmons with an open hand slap to the face, classified as 'wreckless'. Was given a reprimand.



2010:

Round 17, Chris (and Sam Rowe) were reported via video review for striking Norwood's Rowe in an incident after the final siren. Chris Gowans found not guilty, Sam Rowe given a reprimand.


Unable to confirm the year the following 2 incidents took place involving either Gowans' twin being at the tribunal but David Clarke was reported for striking Chris when he was playing for South Adelaide, not sure of the outcome there.

Also, I can't remember his christian name but there was an incident involving a Sturt player with Smith as the surname I think who was sent to the tribunla for wiping blood on Chris in a game at Unley a few seasons ago. I think the Sturt player was a doctor or med student from memory.

Whilst I agree the Gowans boys push the limits more often than not, the talk that they get away with everything with the umpires is not tru IMO, I would think they would have the most 25m penalties paid aginst them combined than many may actually think.


And this is why a lot of supporters i know, (other than Norwood) that don`t take to much notice of such a one eyed, biased commentator!
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:11 pm

What's one eyed about that?
It's a tribunal history of Chris and James Gowans.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby Big Phil » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:45 pm

staritski wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Whilst this thread isn't specifically about the Gowans' twins, many may be surprised that between them, they have only been reported about half a dozen times. Yes, they have fronted the tribunal on a few extra occassions, being on the other end a couple of times as well.

In 10 years of league football between them, from what I have been able to find out, they been suspended for a total of 3 games and they were all for James from the 2007 GF incident with Schubert.

See for yourself, makes for some interesting reading:

2003:

2nd Semi Final, Chris Gowans was reported for striking West Adelaide's Shane Tuck with an elbow, was given a reprimand, not sure of reporting umpire?



2004:

Round 2, James was reported for striking Glenelgs' Paul Sherwood in the third quarter by Gary Fila. He was given a reprimand.

Round 3, Chris was reported for kneeing Eagles' Paul Lindsay by Craig Doddridge; and was found not guilty.

Round 7, Norwoods' Russell Haythorpe was reported by Richard Williams for striking Chris, Haythorpe received a 2 game suspension.



2006:

2nd Semi Final, Chris was reported for striking the Eagles Dale Symmons with an open hand slap to the face, classified as 'wreckless'. Was given a reprimand.



2010:

Round 17, Chris (and Sam Rowe) were reported via video review for striking Norwood's Rowe in an incident after the final siren. Chris Gowans found not guilty, Sam Rowe given a reprimand.


Unable to confirm the year the following 2 incidents took place involving either Gowans' twin being at the tribunal but David Clarke was reported for striking Chris when he was playing for South Adelaide, not sure of the outcome there.

Also, I can't remember his christian name but there was an incident involving a Sturt player with Smith as the surname I think who was sent to the tribunla for wiping blood on Chris in a game at Unley a few seasons ago. I think the Sturt player was a doctor or med student from memory.

Whilst I agree the Gowans boys push the limits more often than not, the talk that they get away with everything with the umpires is not tru IMO, I would think they would have the most 25m penalties paid aginst them combined than many may actually think.


And this is why a lot of supporters i know, (other than Norwood) that don`t take to much notice of such a one eyed, biased commentator!


As DW pointed out stariski, please explain how this has anything to do with my alleged 'one-eyed commentating' ??

If you must know, I have only commentated in 1 Central game this year, the rest I just read out stats or am the Boundary Rider mate.

I have simply backed up a question and statement made about the Gowans twins with the facts, provided by the SANFL, as to when they were involved in a report.

If that is one-eyed, then...
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby sjt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:48 pm

staritski wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Whilst this thread isn't specifically about the Gowans' twins, many may be surprised that between them, they have only been reported about half a dozen times. Yes, they have fronted the tribunal on a few extra occassions, being on the other end a couple of times as well.

In 10 years of league football between them, from what I have been able to find out, they been suspended for a total of 3 games and they were all for James from the 2007 GF incident with Schubert.

See for yourself, makes for some interesting reading:

2003:

2nd Semi Final, Chris Gowans was reported for striking West Adelaide's Shane Tuck with an elbow, was given a reprimand, not sure of reporting umpire?



2004:

Round 2, James was reported for striking Glenelgs' Paul Sherwood in the third quarter by Gary Fila. He was given a reprimand.

Round 3, Chris was reported for kneeing Eagles' Paul Lindsay by Craig Doddridge; and was found not guilty.

Round 7, Norwoods' Russell Haythorpe was reported by Richard Williams for striking Chris, Haythorpe received a 2 game suspension.



2006:

2nd Semi Final, Chris was reported for striking the Eagles Dale Symmons with an open hand slap to the face, classified as 'wreckless'. Was given a reprimand.



2010:

Round 17, Chris (and Sam Rowe) were reported via video review for striking Norwood's Rowe in an incident after the final siren. Chris Gowans found not guilty, Sam Rowe given a reprimand.



Also, I can't remember his christian name but there was an incident involving a Sturt player with Smith as the surname I think who was sent to the tribunla for wiping blood on Chris in a game at Unley a few seasons ago. I think the Sturt player was a doctor or med student from memory.

Whilst I agree the Gowans boys push the limits more often than not, the talk that they get away with everything with the umpires is not tru IMO, I would think they would have the most 25m penalties paid aginst them combined than many may actually think.


And this is why a lot of supporters i know, (other than Norwood) that don`t take to much notice of such a one eyed, biased commentator!


Another quality post :roll: Can't you handle facts? Ignorant.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby sjt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:08 pm

Actually, looking through your moronic posts Staritski it was one of your better ones. Couldn't you find room to mention Centrelink, dole etc and let the hilarity continue.
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Re: Tribunal outcomes

Postby aceman » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:32 pm

sjt wrote:Actually, looking through your moronic posts Staritski it was one of your better ones. Couldn't you find room to mention Centrelink, dole etc and let the hilarity continue.



That's a bit "harsh and unwarranted", isn't it?
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