Rd 10 Eagles v Norwood Post Game Reviews

[mal]

If Nick Duigan had good WATTOstrings he could be an AFL footballer
If Nick Duigan was about 6 inches taller he could be on the Harlem GlobeTROTTERs touring squad

The degree of difficulty may have been even more with a slipperish footy


I saw a NW player who potentially will become a ''big name ''player
Thomas Jonas
Its Not Unusual for NFC and myself to make sweeping assessments of players
but Jonas looks a player of the future
Took an awesome mark early in the game that had me scurrying for my budget
19 years old
3rd game
Jonas didnt get that many possessions, but the ones he had were good, often enough delivering the ball well by foot
And he might go better on the Green Green Grass of home at the Parade

[teaoby]

went and watched yesterday. i would suggest there was almost a better Norwood crowd then eagles. that mass of red&blue behind the bench was brilliant!

[mal]

Can someone explain the controversial McGUINESS ''rushed'' behind and the WELSH goal as the result of a strange free kick ?

[NFC]

If Nick Duigan had good WATTOstrings he could be an AFL footballer
If Nick Duigan was about 6 inches taller he could be on the Harlem GlobeTROTTERs touring squad

The degree of difficulty may have been even more with a slipperish footy


I saw a NW player who potentially will become a ''big name ''player
Thomas Jonas
Its Not Unusual for NFC and myself to make sweeping assessments of players
but Jonas looks a player of the future
Took an awesome mark early in the game that had me scurrying for my budget
19 years old
3rd game
Jonas didnt get that many possessions, but the ones he had were good, often enough delivering the ball well by foot
And he might go better on the Green Green Grass of home at the Parade

Jonas looks the goods doesn't he? Very composed in defence, good disposal, if not the best in the league our defence is right up there with the very best.

[Columbo]

Can someone explain the controversial McGUINESS ''rushed'' behind and the WELSH goal as the result of a strange free kick ?

First time i have ever seen that paid, free was against Welsh for hanging on in the square IIRC, McGuinness got the free, he looked around for a bit to see where to kick it, umpire called play on, Welsh ran towards him and he walked back through the goals, umpire appeared to signal it as deliberate. That may not answer your question...but thats how I saw it.

[nwdfanparade]

Can someone explain the controversial McGUINESS ''rushed'' behind and the WELSH goal as the result of a strange free kick ?

First time i have ever seen that paid, free was against Welsh for hanging on in the square IIRC, McGuinness got the free, he looked around for a bit to see where to kick it, umpire called play on, Welsh ran towards him and he walked back through the goals, umpire appeared to signal it as deliberate. That may not answer your question...but thats how I saw it.

Another stupid rule that the AFL has introduced. I wouldn't be surprised if the AFL introduced the off-side rule, its got that sort of mindset that it has to bring in stupid rules in a vain attempt to make the Victorian based competition more interesting.

[Aerie]

Disappointing result. Haven't been able to make it since the North game and won't until after the bye. What has happened Eagles fans? Obviously not quite to the standard of the top 3 teams at this stage?

[mal]

Can someone explain the controversial McGUINESS ''rushed'' behind and the WELSH goal as the result of a strange free kick ?

First time i have ever seen that paid, free was against Welsh for hanging on in the square IIRC, McGuinness got the free, he looked around for a bit to see where to kick it, umpire called play on, Welsh ran towards him and he walked back through the goals, umpire appeared to signal it as deliberate. That may not answer your question...but thats how I saw it.

Thats how I saw it
I reckon Mcguiness had ample time to kick the ball
Ump called play on, Mcguiness walked backwards over the line
Morally he did wrong and got pinged
However
The rule on rushed behinds is as I understand :
If a player is under pressure he can rush the point and a point is the result
Only if the player is not under pressure, he is deemed to deliberately rush the point , a free is adjudicated against him
The way I see it Mcguiness at the appropriate point of time was under pressure and perhaps should not not have been pinged ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

When the ump blew his whistle I had thought it was going to be a 25m/50m penalty against Welsh !

The 5rph commentators said that Welsh had come over the mark and Mcguiness was within his scope to concede a point

Welsh got a gimme goal
He kicked 2 goals in this game
The other the first that EG kicked in the game,which was one of the flukiest goals of all time

[Mickyj]

Well done Norwood certainly a different game than last time .to fast to good
Two Freakish things yesterday .that norwood player running with the ball and one handed touching on the ground.
And Scot Welsh's goal from 60 metres that was going to be a point .everyone gave up including the Norwood backman .Ball then did a Warne like bounce through for a gaol.Diving norwood backman couldn't reach it .
And lets not forget Schulz screamer at the southern end .
eagles thank whoever Grocke is back next week .No grocke No Eagles no lead up forward.To slow and have trouble kicking straight at goals .
Dare I say Biglands may end up as a second ruck next week !!

But I did enjoy the triple header some good u18's/16's played yesterday famous surnames as well.huppatz very good up and coming ruckman.(yes ruckman)

[mal]

NW had about 63 tackles
Would have been 70 + , but for Justin Ciccolella
JC is at times untackleable, he seems to break tackles with ease
JC played an outstanding game, as he invariably does in big games

Dean Terlich, 4 goals , played perhaps his best ever game for the Legs
There was a lot of hype about how good he is after a dazzling pre season trial games in 2009
I reckon it was Big Phil who talked him up as a very good player back then

[Adelaide Hawk]

Can someone explain the controversial McGUINESS ''rushed'' behind and the WELSH goal as the result of a strange free kick ?

First time i have ever seen that paid, free was against Welsh for hanging on in the square IIRC, McGuinness got the free, he looked around for a bit to see where to kick it, umpire called play on, Welsh ran towards him and he walked back through the goals, umpire appeared to signal it as deliberate. That may not answer your question...but thats how I saw it.

Still not as crazy as the kicking in danger decision against Brett Zorzi the previous time we played at Woodville. That was the worst umpiring decision I've seen this century. I always thought an opponent had to be somewhere near the ball for it to be deemed in danger. Umpires are just making it up as they go along these days.

[eaglehaslanded]

Full credit to Norwood ~ they were by far the better side and very deserving winners. Every time the Eagles challenged Norwood found an answer. It's very clear for everyone to see the eags miss Grocke. I thought better players for the Eagles were: Cicolella, Lewis, Schulz, Greiger and Daniel. A concern from the game was it was our 3rd loss in a row and 4th from the last 5. C'mon Eagles it's time to bounce back.

[Mr Fuller]

Well done Norwood. The better team for most of the day and deserved the win.

For the eagles another competitive loss.Yes there were a lot of positives in the win but with the competition so tight we need to start winning the close ones.

Some positives was the game of Lewis (perhaps recruit of the year?), Cicca, Powell. Great to see McKenzie finally regain some touch. The run through the midfield must have helped him wake up although I don't want to see him there permanently - maybe in some bursts. That was the best game I have ever seen Schultz play. I didn't know he had that much ability. It was fantastic to see his attack at the ball and fighting hard to keep the ball in the forward line when norwood had it. Banner should look at his determination as an example of how to play when you are dropped from the AFL. I also thought Hoban didn't do too badly. He was as useless as Guilhaus around the ground but seemed to be far more effective with his hitouts than Guilhaus.

However the positives cannot overlook some of the constant problems we have. Hicks is trash pure and simple. Hopefully Godden has learnt his lesson and does not pick him again. I'm sure when Hicks does get dropped he will get picked amongst the best in the reserves. The fact is he is and always will be a very good reserves level player but cannot make the transition to league. It would be far wiser to select an U18 player who perhaps has not starred as much in the reserves but could potentially surpise. We know what we will get with Hicks – nothing.

Similarly Cheep showed once again why he is a liability. Pathetic game. Get rid of him. Every year he will have one or two good games and jag a few games but 90% of the season he is a liability. His huge clanger down the Southern end when he was running in on a 45 degree angle with a lot of time of space sums up the type of player he is. Rather than steadying and taking an easy shot, he had a brain failure when he saw a norwood player approaching from the side. So he stops dead still hoping the player will run past. The norwood player tackled him easily, they rushed it down the other end and they scored a goal. A similar event occurred in about the second game at Woodville when he was running to the northern end with a lot of time and space and he just ran straight into a player who got him holding the ball. He just does not have any awareness or a footy brain.

So some easy changes should be made for next week. But lets not panic just yet. Hopefully Grocke makes a difference when he comes back in this week and helps kick-start our season again.

[Big Phil]

NW had about 63 tackles
Would have been 70 + , but for Justin Ciccolella
JC is at times untackleable, he seems to break tackles with ease
JC played an outstanding game, as he invariably does in big games

Dean Terlich, 4 goals , played perhaps his best ever game for the Legs
There was a lot of hype about how good he is after a dazzling pre season trial games in 2009
I reckon it was Big Phil who talked him up as a very good player back then

Yes, I am a BIG wrap for Dean Terlich...

In the trials during his first season in Adelaide I was super iMpressed and he played some okAy games for Norwood during the season proper Last year...

From meMory he hAd a coupLe of good trials again this year but then dropped off the radar and was playing just okay reserves football. Talking to Nathan Bassett about Dean on RPH a few weeks ago, he said he wanted to Dean to increase his fitness levels to be able to play in the Midfield at times.

Some plAyers are just best suited as permanent forwards and for mine Dean is one of them, who looks as though he might just be finding that form of oLd...

[topsywaldron]

bp,

Grant me One wish and Only uSe upper casE when it's needed?

[wedgetail]

As stated previously, Eags need full team on park to beat the better sides which on Sunday's performance, you'd have to classify Norwood as. Phillips kills us every time and impressed by Duigan's hardness and running in straight lines.
Thought Macca was better yesterday and best AFL or SANFL game I've seen from Schulze. Lewis has been a revelation. Grieger also very solid. Still reckon we are Ok and would be very disappointed if we didn't make top 5.

[Hopeful Jelly]

Can someone explain the controversial McGUINESS ''rushed'' behind and the WELSH goal as the result of a strange free kick ?

First time i have ever seen that paid, free was against Welsh for hanging on in the square IIRC, McGuinness got the free, he looked around for a bit to see where to kick it, umpire called play on, Welsh ran towards him and he walked back through the goals, umpire appeared to signal it as deliberate. That may not answer your question...but thats how I saw it.

Thats how I saw it
I reckon Mcguiness had ample time to kick the ball
Ump called play on, Mcguiness walked backwards over the line
Morally he did wrong and got pinged
However
The rule on rushed behinds is as I understand :
If a player is under pressure he can rush the point and a point is the result
Only if the player is not under pressure, he is deemed to deliberately rush the point , a free is adjudicated against him
The way I see it Mcguiness at the appropriate point of time was under pressure and perhaps should not not have been pinged ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

When the ump blew his whistle I had thought it was going to be a 25m/50m penalty against Welsh !

The 5rph commentators said that Welsh had come over the mark and Mcguiness was within his scope to concede a point

Welsh got a gimme goal
He kicked 2 goals in this game
The other the first that EG kicked in the game,which was one of the flukiest goals of all time

Yes it was definitely a deliberate rushed behind (umpire gave the same signal as deliberate out of bounds). Once play on was called, Welsh "deliberately" only took a couple of steps slowly towards McGuinness so that he wasn't applying any pressure. Welsh would have still been at least 5 metres away from McGuinness when he stepped across the line.

My thoughts on the game - not scoring for the first 20 mins going with the wind killed us. Because we had the wind first, it seemed that from that point on we were playing catch up footy even though there was only about one goal the difference for the majority of the day.

A promising sign was McKenzie's good form playing in the midfield instead of back pocket/half back flank. Prior to Sunday he had been serviceable but not up to his usual high standards and has appeared to be a bit slower or carrying a niggling injury.

[Squawk]

My thoughts on the game - not scoring for the first 20 mins going with the wind killed us. Because we had the wind first, it seemed that from that point on we were playing catch up footy even though there was only about one goal the difference for the majority of the day.

The Eagles scored 5 goals in the first half. All were scored in time on IIRC.

[Big Phil]

James Rimington was cleared from the tribunal this evening after being reported during this game...

He is free to play for the Eagles this weekend against the Magpies this Sunday...

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[HeartBeatsTrue]

So late bumps get games but bumps to the head are cleared.