2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby Hazydog » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:26 pm

Take your point Dedja - but how long since Sellar played? 10 weeks? And who does he replace?

What impact do you think this has on team harmony?

Anyway, we all may be jumping at shadows! Do we know for sure if the Crows are going to release any of them yet?
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby leftlegger » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:28 pm

sjt wrote:
leftlegger wrote:Dogs dodged a bullet against sturt & will be all the better for it.

They have been flag favourites all season and nothing has changed now. Anything less than a flag for the dogs will be a total failure.
The pressure is on.


I think anything less than a flag for any of the top three could be viewed as a failure.

True. Certainly for Glenelg & Centrals.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby Big Phil » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:29 pm

sjt wrote:I'd add Williams out for Symes


I'm hearing Symes needs a very minor knee op, just a little clean up, and will not be giving the all clear to play by the Crows.

Time will tell I guess, but even if Symes does play, despite very poor form over the last 3 months, I don't think Williams will get dropped.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby sjt » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:32 pm

Big Phil wrote:
sjt wrote:I'd add Williams out for Symes


I'm hearing Symes needs a very minor knee op, just a little clean up, and will not be giving the all clear to play by the Crows.

Time will tell I guess, but even if Symes does play, despite very poor form over the last 3 months, I don't think Williams will get dropped.


I hope you're wrong Big Phil. Sounds completely contrary to the Crows previous propoganda. Playing finals pressure football for the club he comes from surely can't be a negative. :evil:
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:33 pm

Hazydog wrote:Take your point Dedja - but how long since Sellar played? 10 weeks? And who does he replace?

What impact do you think this has on team harmony?

Anyway, we all may be jumping at shadows! Do we know for sure if the Crows are going to release any of them yet?


R13 was Sellar's last game ... bugger if I know who he may replace.

Team harmony ... possibly.

Final point ... true.

At the end of the day, if these players are available it gives maximum flexibilty to select the correct 21 to do the job. That does not necessarily mean that they're automatic inclusions.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby CENTURION » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:43 pm

Callinan won't play.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby whufc » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:44 pm

either will Hayes
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:47 pm

Big Phil wrote:
demonseye wrote:
dedja wrote:What about the injury front for the Dogs.

Will Slade play next week?

And I noticed that Havelberg was having plenty of treatment on the hammy in the last quarter.

The Bays luckily are injury free (apart from Hinge) and have some potential selection headaches with Douglas, Sellar and Meyer available for selection.

Slade will play i would imagine, he was moving pretty freely running up and down the steps in between quarters yesterday, well better than i was at half time having a kick :D


Roy Laird said on 5AA last night that if yesterday's game was an elimination final Slade would have played, he was just extra cautious with him from the luxury of having the double chance.

The other 2 boys, not so sure. I am hearing conflicting reports on Hayes. The paper says adductor strain and Roy did say he too will be fine this week for the Glenelg game, but I'm hearing it would not be until the GF weekend Hayes would be available, should the Dogs qualify of course.

Callinan is a hard one to guage only because it is common knowledge that he has had hammy issues all year. Laird said he should be fine as well but it could be possible with the double chance still in favour of the Dogs, Callinan may be given 1 more week.

Too early in the week to say anything is a certainty, except perhaps Slade will play, but I would suggest the usual - will be evaluated at training during the week and then tested later on in the week leading up to the game.

My 'guess' would be the following changes for Central in this game:

INS: M.Slade, I.Callinan, A.Hayes

OUTS: B.Nason, L.Westhoff, K.Jenner


No problems with Havelberg then?

I thought Westoff did alright yesterday, maybe would be stiff to get dropped.

Agree with Nason ... looks like he's got potential, but can't send a boy to do a man's job in finals.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby Grahaml » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:24 pm

Well, I don't know how serious any injuries might be, at this stage as far as I know we might have Symes and Griffin, depending on the crows giving them the all clear as well as Slade, Callinan and Hayes. I'm very wary of making 5 changes in one game, so it is perhaps best if we don't get all 5 back this game. I think too many changes is just too unsettling. Unfortunately it's really hard to elave any of them out if they're all available. And there are some guys who did pretty well who would have to miss out if they did.

My gut tells me we won't get Griff and Symesy. Crows would be keen for Griff to get healthy and hit pre-season full bore while Symes hasn't really been a part of our side. He'd walk in if he was released and wanted to play but I really don't think he will want to take someone's spot given how long ago he was a regular for us.

Last year we really steeled ourselves to win this game to earn the week off, and I think it will again be a significant advantage this year if we can. Perhaps Glenelg won't "gain" anywhere near as much unless they pick up an injury worry during the game, but surely they themselves realise how important it will be to deny us that break. Would love to extend our second semi record even more. Plenty of room for improvement for us is a massive upside compared to both the last game we played and the last encounter between these two sides.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:34 pm

The word is that Symes won't be available.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby topsywaldron » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:06 pm

whufc wrote:either will Hayes


Did he self impose a suspension after getting off at the tribunal?
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby whufc » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:10 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
whufc wrote:either will Hayes


Did he self impose a suspension after getting off at the tribunal?


injured hammy or abductor at training, theres a few different reports around to how serious this injury is. My gut feeling (i have no inside knowledge) is that he may miss again as he does have a history of leg muscle issues.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby milbo » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:12 pm

Douglas decided now against playing? Would suggest his career with Adelaide is looking grim.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby bayman » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:14 am

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:Dogs by 19 goals.


they might win but that statement should go into the best jokes thread :lol: ;)
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby NFC » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:27 am

Central by 5 goals. Yawn. Bring on 2016 when the Dogs might not win a flag.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby dedja » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:57 am

NFC wrote:Central by 5 goals. Yawn. Bring on 2016 when the Dogs might not win a flag.


Just checking, is that a C or an I in your name? ;)
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby dedja » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:26 am

Disappointing crowd yesterday, hopefully we'll get a much better turnout this week.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:09 am

bayman wrote:
Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:Dogs by 19 goals.


they might win but that statement should go into the best jokes thread :lol: ;)


I was abit pissed when i got home and posted that, was supposed to be 19 points, just a slight difference ;) :lol:
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby whufc » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:42 am

Alright now that im over my hangover and finished celebrating Sundays game i can concentrate on the tigers this week.

IMHO all the KPI point a comfortable Glenelg win
-minor premiers by 2 games
-week of to freshen up
- pretty much full list of players to pick from
- in reasonable form going into the finals

While Central
-carrying a few injuries
-tough game last week
-not in best form

Though the last 9 years has proven never to count the Dogs out, i think there is plenty of upside for the Dogs, i would imagine Slade will come back into the side and add spark around the stoppages, the likes of Spurr and Nason were playing their first final against Sturt so you would think they would be better for the experience.

Unlike the Central vs Sturt contest IMHO Central and Glenelg match up very very very similar and have structures that are almost identical. Most occasions between these sides the team in better form have generally won these games.

With the teams being so even for me the key matchup is Cranston/Sellar vs McKenzie/Giles, the pair that can give their midfielders hands on the ball first may be enough to get their side over the line.

I said this last week as well but to me i can see the Bays winning by 5+ goals but can't see the Dogs winning by anymore than 3 goals.

Heart says a doggies victory BUT

head says Bays by 25points.
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Re: 2nd Semi Final Glenelg v Centrals

Postby Dutchy » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:44 am

I wouldnt expect Sellar to play ruck
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