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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby am Bays » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:54 am

Dutchy wrote:I guess the question is why dont Port Power travel with an emergency every week?

cant they afford it? :?


yeah they do Dutchy, when the Bays are due to play the Magpies, Chocco to Rubbers: Ah no we need to give Tommy Logan some frequent flyer point so he's coming to Perth to cut the Oranges...
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby auto » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:18 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Macca19 wrote:[Someone has to. Gets boring listening to the same people froth at the mouth about Port Adelaide all the time.


Just as it has become boring over the years listening to Port Adelaide people defend everything the club has ever done. At least supporters of other clubs on this forum realise their clubs aren't perfect and are prepared to criticise them from time to time, but Port Adelaide people have his delusion that 100% of their club's actions are beyond reproach ... which, of course, they are not.

Support your club, yes. Defend them in the event of unfair criticism, yes. But when they clearly get something wrong, at least have the respect for others who aren't particularly pleased with it.

If Port Magpies had a player suited up and ready to play, and then the Adelaide Crows came along at the last moment and disrupted their team, you can bet anything that Port Adelaide would be screaming like stuck pigs about it.



I totally agree with what your saying in regards to fair criticism, however, in this case how do you know what happened behind the scenes on friday night, Maybe Rodan was pulled at the absolute earliest possible time. As no-one on this forum is either Mark Williams or Shaun Burgoyne, no-one really knows what happened. So this whole thread is a bunch of whingers complaining about facts that they really know nothing about.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Barto » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:23 am

Dutchy wrote:I guess the question is why dont Port Power travel with an emergency every week?

cant they afford it? :?



Good question. Other clubs do it.

This was my point, was Rodan the 23rd man? Or did they just grab him.

If he was the 23rd, he should not have been kitted up to play for Norwood, he should have had his travelling bags packed.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby JK » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:32 am

Pretty sure Rodan was listed as the 2nd emergency, but I have no idea whether the order they are listed in has any relevance ... At least a situation like Friday nights might result in all the clubs sitting down and coming up with a system that covers all involved.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Macca19 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:52 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Macca19 wrote:Support your club, yes. Defend them in the event of unfair criticism, yes. But when they clearly get something wrong, at least have the respect for others who aren't particularly pleased with it.


You wouldnt have the slightest idea if this is 'clearly wrong' or not. Nor do I. Difference is that im happy to believe the events told by the football manager of the club - the person who probably made teh decision and teh call, rather than believing the disgruntled ramblings of a bunch of pissed off Norwood supporters on the internet, who are happy to make up garbage like that 'it was intentional because of a meeting during the week'.

Rodan wasnt the travelling emerg (obviously). I cant recall the other emergencies, but there was another that went over - might have been Davenport. Instead of playing a 2nd debutant against the regining premier, they decided to play Rodan, who was probably 2nd or 3rd BOG yesterday so the decision was the correct one from Ports point of view.

They didnt play all their emergencies for the first half of last year and people whinged that they werent getting use of the players when they could be playing.

Its an odd situation that has happened once in a blue moon, not weekly.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Aerie » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:22 pm

fester69 wrote:Very easy to fix actually, the cut-off time for an AFL listed player to be removed from his SANFL side is first bounce of the reserves game. Simple.


Spot on. It's as simple as this.

Port pulling out Rodan just an hour before the bounce is a disgrace and lack of respect. They should be fined and Norwood compensated. Norwood should be fuming at this, and rightly so.

Robert Shirley has twice been a travelling emergency for the Crows, when he could've played for the Eagles. But, I have no problem with this, because the Eagles knew he wasn't available.

The SANFL/AFL exchange system does have some problems, but I think the benefits do outweigh the negatives. Common sense and a bit of mutual respect would solve any problems. Clearly, the Port Adelaide Football Club lacks big time in both areas.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby ORDoubleBlues » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:47 pm

Given the situation, would it may have been better to draft in someone like Mitch Farmer given Sturt had the bye?
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby LBT » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:12 pm

Did Luke Nitshke (sp) play the whole ressies match and then suit up for the league game? Regardless, poor form from the power.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby fester69 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:25 pm

I believe that even though he didn't take the field, Rodan gets credited with the game in regards to qualifying for the SANFL finals, at least that's what I was told at AAMI last night. Can anyone confirm or deny?
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:11 pm

fester69 wrote:I believe that even though he didn't take the field, Rodan gets credited with the game in regards to qualifying for the SANFL finals, at least that's what I was told at AAMI last night. Can anyone confirm or deny?


Like yourself, I don't know the answer, but my thinking is that had he not played, he would have been credited a second game for Norwood, but because he actually played for the Power, this may not be the case. Like yourself, I await the knowledge of others for clarification.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Squawk » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:18 pm

The plot thickens....

At 6.20pm tonight, Bruce Abernethy has reported that Shaun Burgoyne is likely to miss next weeks game as well. That's less than 48hrs after Rodan was withdrawn.

So, did Burgoyne genuinely pull up sore?
Did Burgoyne fein fitness?
Are the medical staff there just not up to scratch? How could a 2 match injury suffered after the St Kilda game have been a no match injury 48 hours ago?
How can Port now forecast that he won't be fit to play for another two weeks?

"Pulled up sore" is sounding even more "lame" as time goes on.....
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Dutchy » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:45 pm

Maybe he has a wedding next week... :roll:
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:56 am

Squawk wrote:The plot thickens....

At 6.20pm tonight, Bruce Abernethy has reported that Shaun Burgoyne is likely to miss next weeks game as well. That's less than 48hrs after Rodan was withdrawn.

So, did Burgoyne genuinely pull up sore?
Did Burgoyne fein fitness?
Are the medical staff there just not up to scratch? How could a 2 match injury suffered after the St Kilda game have been a no match injury 48 hours ago?
How can Port now forecast that he won't be fit to play for another two weeks?

"Pulled up sore" is sounding even more "lame" as time goes on.....


We all know this was simply a case of an AFL club playing the old game of "ducks and drakes". I have no idea why they do this, the stupid part is with all the spies around these days, the opposition would have known Burgoyne wasn't playing before Norwood and Rodan did.

It does little to upset an opponent's plans, all it achieves is to annoy their own supporters and the SANFL clubs. I wish AFL clubs would grow up. My club does the same thing. I've known on a Thursday that a player won't be playing, but I pick up the paper on Friday moroning only to find his name in the team. It achieves nothing.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby MAY-Z » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:30 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Squawk wrote:The plot thickens....

At 6.20pm tonight, Bruce Abernethy has reported that Shaun Burgoyne is likely to miss next weeks game as well. That's less than 48hrs after Rodan was withdrawn.

So, did Burgoyne genuinely pull up sore?
Did Burgoyne fein fitness?
Are the medical staff there just not up to scratch? How could a 2 match injury suffered after the St Kilda game have been a no match injury 48 hours ago?
How can Port now forecast that he won't be fit to play for another two weeks?

"Pulled up sore" is sounding even more "lame" as time goes on.....


We all know this was simply a case of an AFL club playing the old game of "ducks and drakes". I have no idea why they do this, the stupid part is with all the spies around these days, the opposition would have known Burgoyne wasn't playing before Norwood and Rodan did.

It does little to upset an opponent's plans, all it achieves is to annoy their own supporters and the SANFL clubs. I wish AFL clubs would grow up. My club does the same thing. I've known on a Thursday that a player won't be playing, but I pick up the paper on Friday moroning only to find his name in the team. It achieves nothing.


yep this is something i hate too - all the afl need sto do is make a pick them play them policy - teams will soon stop naming unavailable players then
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Squawk » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:06 pm

Exactly. All AFL teams to name a lineup of 22 players plus prioritised emergencies, 24 hrs before game time. No training in that 24 hrs to prevent accidental injury. The emergency can only be called up if there is an unforeseen event - eg Gastro strikes a player. Then, the emergency no 1 is a straight replacement. Two players get Gastro, then emergency no 2 comes in. Most importantly, the public know who is playing, as will the punters betting on a game.

Same should happen at SANFL level too.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby RustyCage » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:17 pm

Big Phil wrote:On the 5RPH call of the game last night that had Warren Partland on from the Advertiser at half time and boy did he get stuck into the Port Adelaide Football Club, and rightly so.

It is just pathetic how they treat the SANFL and they are plenty of clubs that have had enough of them...


Rodan is a Port Adelaide player. End of story.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby JK » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:47 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
Big Phil wrote:On the 5RPH call of the game last night that had Warren Partland on from the Advertiser at half time and boy did he get stuck into the Port Adelaide Football Club, and rightly so.

It is just pathetic how they treat the SANFL and they are plenty of clubs that have had enough of them...


Rodan is a Port Adelaide player. End of story.


As I said before I don't think it needs to be a big deal, but I dont think it's quite as simple as that mate.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Macca19 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:57 pm

Squawk wrote:Exactly. All AFL teams to name a lineup of 22 players plus prioritised emergencies, The emergency can only be called up if there is an unforeseen event - eg Gastro strikes a player. Then, the emergency no 1 is a straight replacement.


And I can imagine the uproar if for example, Rutten gets gastro and is forced to miss, but the Crows can only choose Jarrhan Jacky as the replacement because he was #1 emergency, despite having Brad Moran and James Sellar as #2 and 3 emergencies. terrible idea.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby Squawk » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:04 pm

So be it. Better than playing one player short. Just reshuffle your line up and do your best to make it work for you. No different when a player goes down at the first bounce - you deal with it.
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Re: d.rodan & port power

Postby bayman » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:07 pm

Macca19 wrote:
Squawk wrote:Exactly. All AFL teams to name a lineup of 22 players plus prioritised emergencies, The emergency can only be called up if there is an unforeseen event - eg Gastro strikes a player. Then, the emergency no 1 is a straight replacement.


And I can imagine the uproar if for example, Rutten gets gastro and is forced to miss, but the Crows can only choose Jarrhan Jacky as the replacement because he was #1 emergency, despite having Brad Moran and James Sellar as #2 and 3 emergencies. terrible idea.


yeah i'd say your both right, it should be a tall for a tall & a sMALl for a sMALl....the old team balance isn't curtailed that way
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