Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commission

[csbowes]

No more Magpies is a disaster for me...

If the Magpies were in the AFL in the prison bars, I could accept they graduated, but it just seems like the club has been sold out.

To Aerie, I don't think its just about walking away feeling morally superior, some might walk because the competition seems fake now. I really don't know what to expect, I'm really thinking after watching Paynham Norwood Union on the weekend, that maybe watching country or amateur football is where I'll see real teams playing in a real league and not a contrived league.

It just doesn't feel the same to me...

[Lynwood]

No more Magpies is a disaster for me...

If the Magpies were in the AFL in the prison bars, I could accept they graduated, but it just seems like the club has been sold out.

To Aerie, I don't think its just about walking away feeling morally superior, some might walk because the competition seems fake now. I really don't know what to expect, I'm really thinking after watching Paynham Norwood Union on the weekend, that maybe watching country or amateur football is where I'll see real teams playing in a real league and not a contrived league.

It just doesn't feel the same to me...

Even if they had the Prison Bars in the AFL I would still walk away this is about state league footy not supporting an AFL side.

[Failed Creation]

No more Magpies is a disaster for me...

If the Magpies were in the AFL in the prison bars, I could accept they graduated, but it just seems like the club has been sold out.

To Aerie, I don't think its just about walking away feeling morally superior, some might walk because the competition seems fake now. I really don't know what to expect, I'm really thinking after watching Paynham Norwood Union on the weekend, that maybe watching country or amateur football is where I'll see real teams playing in a real league and not a contrived league.

It just doesn't feel the same to me...

Even if they had the Prison Bars in the AFL I would still walk away this is about state league footy not supporting an AFL side.

Bloody oath.

The only league/s I see being any better off are the country leagues, as they can offer much more coin than is being proposed currently.

[Jim05]

From the port members night (online blog provided on their website)

- KT basically telling the members that the SANFL will revoke the Maggies license, so club left with no option (bluff on KT's behalf??)
- No age cap on players in league side.
- The proposed structure that the SANFL has submitted to the PAFC board to vote on is as follows:

AFL (Power and 'V')
SANFL (Magpies and prisonbars)
Magpies Academy
[[2014 only]] Current Magpies junior structure
[[2015 on]] Country and Indigenous development program
[[2015 on]] International/multicultural pathway programs
[[2015 on]] Father/son academy (past players from AFL and SANFL)

- Junior structure to be established in SAAFL if needed.
- Crowd lapping it up by the sounds of it.
- Home games at Alberton
- Loss of recruiting zones as such, but it's open slather for "academy" list recruiting, as long as player is under 22. These players cant play in the league team though. Only ressies. Target for them is to join the "top up" list the following season.
- 15 top up players for the league team. (what happens if not picked for league? Play in the academy team presumably?)
- No talk of $$$- only that Port wont receive a dividend like the other 8 SANFL clubs.
- KT is good at spin.

I was told by a board member tonight the league "top up players" will be capped at $400 a game and the "Academy" at $100 I would think anyone decent will be grabbed by other SANFL clubs or Country teams... The cap was placed on by the other league clubs.

Still too much for my liking.
Hope this gets reviewed yearly, dont ever want to see a AFL reserves side become competetive

[UK Fan]

No more Magpies is a disaster for me...

If the Magpies were in the AFL in the prison bars, I could accept they graduated, but it just seems like the club has been sold out.

To Aerie, I don't think its just about walking away feeling morally superior, some might walk because the competition seems fake now. I really don't know what to expect, I'm really thinking after watching Paynham Norwood Union on the weekend, that maybe watching country or amateur football is where I'll see real teams playing in a real league and not a contrived league.

It just doesn't feel the same to me...

Even if they had the Prison Bars in the AFL I would still walk away this is about state league footy not supporting an AFL side.

Well said!

[UK Fan]

No more Magpies is a disaster for me...

If the Magpies were in the AFL in the prison bars, I could accept they graduated, but it just seems like the club has been sold out.

To Aerie, I don't think its just about walking away feeling morally superior, some might walk because the competition seems fake now. I really don't know what to expect, I'm really thinking after watching Paynham Norwood Union on the weekend, that maybe watching country or amateur football is where I'll see real teams playing in a real league and not a contrived league.

It just doesn't feel the same to me...

And teams in Ammos/country leagues actually want to better themselves as opposed to this shit house league.

After centrals get knocked out in a week /fortnight that's it for me. Shattered at the thought and not looking forward to the final siren on the day. Ill attend the first crows game at Lizzy next year purely to show crows fans why trigg should of got unanimous support.

[twosheds]

Yes, it all depends which way you look at it.

My feeling is the majority realise the Port Adelaide Football Club is judged by what they do on the national stage and realise that the Magpies being used to assist in player development is more beneficial to the club than the status quo.

Because of the history they have in the SANFL and the importance of this history to the culture of the club, I think they'll continue to do everything possible to maintain it in some way via the team they'll have playing in the Magpies guernsey in the SANFL. They won't want to be easy beats, and will realise that there will need to be handicaps in place to ensure they are not too strong given the advantages that go with having the majority of the team as AFL listed players.

It would be up to the club to decide how important the current Magpie below-league structure is to the overall well-being of the club and how much effort they go to to ensure this is preserved.

Those Magpie-only supporters who are against the AFL are probably following the wrong club and have done so since their club decided the AFL was the competition they wanted to be in. Yes, you do feel for these individuals, but the writing is on the wall.

The other 8 SANFL clubs and its supporters need to ensure they are strong enough to continue to beat whatever Port Adelaide form is put on the park. They have been pretty good at it since the turn of the century.

It is up to the 8 SANFL club members to ensure their SANFL club keeps the SANFL and the two AFL clubs and the competition honest from this point on. Again, the majority of those appointed to be in charge of their club thought it was better for their club and the competition to include the AFL Reserves teams in the SANFL. Yes, there are obvious downsides, but they considered that the benefits outweigh the negatives of what was going to happen in the short term anyway.

Those members that walk away from their own SANFL club are going to do the most damage. The same type of damage that the members who walked away after 1991 did. If it makes you feel morally superior by walking away then good for you. I'll still support the players who put on the Eagle guernsey and bust their gut to ensure a victory against any opposition. At the same time this is a wake up call to ensure I keep in touch with the Board of my club to see what the future plans are and ensure they are doing everything possible to make sure my club is the strongest it can be and the competition it plays in is the strongest it can be.

How the hell can the "competition" be as strong as it can be when two teams are trying to develop players rather than win ?
Where exactly are these claims of moral superiority, sounds like its your opinion or the wrong one . Spare us the misplaced outrage and direct it to the egos of Sanderson,Trigg et al.

[UK Fan]

Yes, it all depends which way you look at it.

My feeling is the majority realise the Port Adelaide Football Club is judged by what they do on the national stage and realise that the Magpies being used to assist in player development is more beneficial to the club than the status quo.

Because of the history they have in the SANFL and the importance of this history to the culture of the club, I think they'll continue to do everything possible to maintain it in some way via the team they'll have playing in the Magpies guernsey in the SANFL. They won't want to be easy beats, and will realise that there will need to be handicaps in place to ensure they are not too strong given the advantages that go with having the majority of the team as AFL listed players.

It would be up to the club to decide how important the current Magpie below-league structure is to the overall well-being of the club and how much effort they go to to ensure this is preserved.

Those Magpie-only supporters who are against the AFL are probably following the wrong club and have done so since their club decided the AFL was the competition they wanted to be in. Yes, you do feel for these individuals, but the writing is on the wall.

The other 8 SANFL clubs and its supporters need to ensure they are strong enough to continue to beat whatever Port Adelaide form is put on the park. They have been pretty good at it since the turn of the century.

It is up to the 8 SANFL club members to ensure their SANFL club keeps the SANFL and the two AFL clubs and the competition honest from this point on. Again, the majority of those appointed to be in charge of their club thought it was better for their club and the competition to include the AFL Reserves teams in the SANFL. Yes, there are obvious downsides, but they considered that the benefits outweigh the negatives of what was going to happen in the short term anyway.

Those members that walk away from their own SANFL club are going to do the most damage. The same type of damage that the members who walked away after 1991 did. If it makes you feel morally superior by walking away then good for you. I'll still support the players who put on the Eagle guernsey and bust their gut to ensure a victory against any opposition. At the same time this is a wake up call to ensure I keep in touch with the Board of my club to see what the future plans are and ensure they are doing everything possible to make sure my club is the strongest it can be and the competition it plays in is the strongest it can be.

How the hell can the "competition" be as strong as it can be when two teams are trying to develop players rather than win ?
Where exactly are these claims of moral superiority, sounds like its your opinion or the wrong one . Spare us the misplaced outrage and direct it to the egos of Sanderson,Trigg et al.

I think Aerie is Kurt Slaven!!!

[zipzap]

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2 ... ies-update

Interesting viewing to say the least

[UK Fan]

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2013-09-09/from-the-ceo-aflsanfl-magpies-update

Interesting viewing to say the least

What a crock!!!! I'm sure been real will believe that crap.

You are a disgrace to sa football KT!!

[Panther Pack]

So Port Magpies get to keep all their good players Beard, Gray, Summerton ect (No age restriction) & add AFL players to the team! How is that fair? Wish my club could do that!!!!!!

[Macca19]

In theory we get to keep our best Magpies players but in reality, im still not sure many/any will stay on. Maybe one or two, but they'll be able to earn significantly more money and have much more influence at other SANFL clubs or the country.

I think this is a good deal and does help maintain the integrity of the comp more than the Crows deal does. Having the reserves team is important as it means those draftees that aren't ready for SANFL football aren't forced to play in it as per the Crows deal.

[on the rails]

As for retaining 15 SANFL contracted players and even with a reduced Salary Cap, I am sure the PAFC will find ways around the Cap given now it will all be coming out of the AFL Budget. Plenty of ways to cheat the system and I have no faith in any "Investigator" at West Lakes to uncover anything except the nearest route to the old boys club bar and the padded seats!

[zipzap]

[beenreal]

Love it. The $ANFL clubs have been eyeing off our zones for years so rejected an original PAFC proposal which screamed protecting the "integrity" of the competition. This model is better and shows Port Adelaide is a progressive 21st century club.

It wouldn't matter what KT said, most of you would be calling him a liar, etc. anyway.

Half of you still complain that the PAFC wont take it seriously, while the other half don't want them competitive. You don't know what you want, so we'll do what we want, which is winning $ANFL and AFL Premierships.

The fact you're unhappy makes me happy.

[UK Fan]

How dare the SANFL let them run a SANFL and afl club. Bastards!!!!

Port magpies dead , leagues integrity dead yet again port blaming everyone else.


Port Adelaide you are pathetic.

[UK Fan]

In theory we get to keep our best Magpies players but in reality, im still not sure many/any will stay on. Maybe one or two, but they'll be able to earn significantly more money and have much more influence at other SANFL clubs or the country.

I think this is a good deal and does help maintain the integrity of the comp more than the Crows deal does. Having the reserves team is important as it means those draftees that aren't ready for SANFL football aren't forced to play in it as per the Crows deal.

Afl players playing in SANFL reserves ???? Surely Ammos would be better

[Jim05]

They wont be winning a SANFL premiership in the near future.
Half the AFL listed players are absolute tards like Butcher and Hitchcock who wouldnt get a kick in Ammos and then they will be topped up by ressies players. No decent players will stay and play for the pittance they will be offered. Country clubs and other SANFL will be picking the bones out of the current league side.

[gossipgirl]

That is pure gold

[Booney]

How dare the SANFL let them run a SANFL and afl club. Bastards!!!!
Port magpies dead , leagues integrity dead yet again port blaming everyone else.
Port Adelaide you are pathetic.

A better person to judge pathetic you will not find.