AFL RESERVES

[Wedgie]

And I still laugh at supporters of a hybrid club that merged because one half had no money, the other half had no supporters and still plays in front of next to no-one.

Dude, you just described Port supporters, you laught at yourself?

[UK Fan]

And I still laugh at supporters of a hybrid club that merged because one half had no money, the other half had no supporters and still plays in front of next to no-one.

Dude, you just described Port supporters, you laught at yourself?

[beenreal]

UK Fan levels constant accusations that the PAFC has been a drain on the SANFL since elevation to the national stage yet only provides half the evidence.

Fine, I'll make it easy. I ascertain the PAFC injected Millions into SANFL coffers from 1997-2007

Prove me wrong UK Fan

[whufc]

UK Fan levels constant accusations that the PAFC has been a drain on the SANFL since elevation to the national stage yet only provides half the evidence.

Fine, I'll make it easy. I ascertain the PAFC injected Millions into SANFL coffers from 1997-2007

Prove me wrong UK Fan

It injected millions in but the millions out is more!

[UK Fan]

UK Fan levels constant accusations that the PAFC has been a drain on the SANFL since elevation to the national stage yet only provides half the evidence.

Fine, I'll make it easy. I ascertain the PAFC injected Millions into SANFL coffers from 1997-2007

Prove me wrong UK Fan

I would but like everyone else on this website(including pafc fans). We have nfi what you are talking about.

Maybe if you could provide any sort of reference/proof to sanfls alleged "syphoning" we could compare notes.

Other thing for you to research would be how much sanfl allegedly syphoned off you. Cos if it is less than total amount sanfl has granted you. It's a pointless argument.

We all wait for you next Excuse as to why you have been prevented from providing any evidence to support your "syphoning" claim.

[RustyCage]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

[rod_rooster]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

I don't see any issue with that. Why should it be any different? The SANFL owns the place so if you want to use it then you have to cough up for the privilege.

[UK Fan]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

Yep SANFL Crows & Port make revenue out of AAMI.

[whufc]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

Very true but remember a 'small' amount has to be taken out of the total figure because if Port werent in the AFL they then would have bigger crowds, bigger gates, bigger bar takings than the current Magpies do produce.

Also remember while every cent from Port games goes to the SANFL how often do Port meet their crowd 'quoto' to make a profit at home game. Its around the high 20K and i would say only once this year has Port made a profit this year.

[CENTURION]

this is tedious, hurry up and fold.

[Pseudo]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years.

Be interesting to speculate how much more that figure might have been if instead of Port, the SANFL had awarded the licence to an entity which was capable of drawing a crowd...

[Gravel]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

The SANFL only release very abridged financial reports but from what they publish you can see that gross revenue from AFL games in 2011 was $58.3m and based on the 2011 attendance split of 38/62 the 238,463 people who attended Port games generated revenue of $22.2m (Crows $36.1m). Based on the figures that Port and the Crows quote the NP margin appears to be in the 15% - 20% range, which is understandable given the high price of the food and drink at AAMI. A few years ago Duncanson quoted a figure of $50m net since 1997 - the 2011 figures support that comment.

[UK Fan]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

The SANFL only release very abridged financial reports but from what they publish you can see that gross revenue from AFL games in 2011 was $58.3m and based on the 2011 attendance split of 38/62 the 238,463 people who attended Port games generated revenue of $22.2m (Crows $36.1m). Based on the figures that Port and the Crows quote the NP margin appears to be in the 15% - 20% range, which is understandable given the high price of the food and drink at AAMI. A few years ago Duncanson quoted a figure of $50m net since 1997 - the 2011 figures support that comment.

If only Revenue = Profit

[Apachebulldog]

From what i have read around 13 Million plus shekels has been pumped into the PAFC by the SANFL coorect me if i am wrong so please can someone really tell how many Millions of shekels the PAFC has generated and paid back i betcha the ins and outs do not add up its about the SANFL sold this noose around its neck so it can breathe.

[Psyber]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years.

Be interesting to speculate how much more that figure might have been if instead of Port, the SANFL had awarded the licence to an entity which was capable of drawing a crowd...

Yes.
Back at the time of the second licence being issued I was sorry I'd let slip the chance to take Crows membership and by then there was a long queue for membership.
So, I was ready to sign up with a new hybrid team, but when Port were given the second licence I just walked away.

[Booney]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years.

Be interesting to speculate how much more that figure might have been if instead of Port, the SANFL had awarded the licence to an entity which was capable of drawing a crowd...

We did draw crowds of 35,000 regularly in the late 90's and more at times early 2000's.

This speculation you speak of, who would it have been? This other entity. Another composite side? We all know that would not work....

[topsywaldron]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

The SANFL only release very abridged financial reports but from what they publish you can see that gross revenue from AFL games in 2011 was $58.3m and based on the 2011 attendance split of 38/62 the 238,463 people who attended Port games generated revenue of $22.2m (Crows $36.1m). Based on the figures that Port and the Crows quote the NP margin appears to be in the 15% - 20% range, which is understandable given the high price of the food and drink at AAMI. A few years ago Duncanson quoted a figure of $50m net since 1997 - the 2011 figures support that comment.

If only Revenue = Profit

You'd better hope Beenreal doesn't see this, it shows an alarming lack of comprehension of Gravel's fairly clear point.

[Booney]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

The SANFL only release very abridged financial reports but from what they publish you can see that gross revenue from AFL games in 2011 was $58.3m and based on the 2011 attendance split of 38/62 the 238,463 people who attended Port games generated revenue of $22.2m (Crows $36.1m). Based on the figures that Port and the Crows quote the NP margin appears to be in the 15% - 20% range, which is understandable given the high price of the food and drink at AAMI. A few years ago Duncanson quoted a figure of $50m net since 1997 - the 2011 figures support that comment.

If only Revenue = Profit

You've got all the figures. Show us :

A) Total revenue
B) Total profit.

If Port generated $22.2m from games at AAMI in 2011 I'd be interested in the profit the SANFL took from that.

[RustyCage]

And who is this magical crowd pulling entity that was denied playing in front of 50k every week by Port? The Norwood/Sturt merger? Or what if Centrals folded like they wanted to and Footscray moved here?

[RustyCage]

Every cent that generated from car parking, food and bars at a port home game goes straight to the SANFL. this is on top of sponsorship at the ground, which also goes to the SANFL. It would be interesting to see just how much this has been over the 15 years. The cost of staff (security/red coats/caterers) as well as paying to hire the venue and utilities (electricity/water) is paid for directly by Port (hence needing 27k attendance to break even). This stadium deal is the same for the crows, though they have a higher break even attendance figure due to needing more catering/security/red coats.

The SANFL only release very abridged financial reports but from what they publish you can see that gross revenue from AFL games in 2011 was $58.3m and based on the 2011 attendance split of 38/62 the 238,463 people who attended Port games generated revenue of $22.2m (Crows $36.1m). Based on the figures that Port and the Crows quote the NP margin appears to be in the 15% - 20% range, which is understandable given the high price of the food and drink at AAMI. A few years ago Duncanson quoted a figure of $50m net since 1997 - the 2011 figures support that comment.

If only Revenue = Profit

You've got all the figures. Show us :

A) Total revenue
B) Total profit.

If Port generated $22.2m from games at AAMI in 2011 I'd be interested in the profit the SANFL took from that.

Not forgetting that every person who works at AAMI on game day has their wages paid for by Port and Adelaide.