AFL Reserves Discussion...

[LPH]

According to Slavin, South were the only club to vote NO last night

[csbowes]

At least they had an info night unlike some clubs...

[csbowes]

According to Slavin, South were the only club to vote NO last night

Maybe he's making that up so he doesn't look like a tool...

[smac]

I'd suggest he was.

[once_were_warriors]

I can, here right now , we are voting yes

may I enquire as to what benefits the club put forward to you members for voting yes??

I sum it up that basically the Sanfl clubs are scared of the consequences of the crows playing anywhere else but Sanfl , loss of revenue, tv , news media etc

[Pseudo]

I can, here right now , we are voting yes

may I enquire as to what benefits the club put forward to you members for voting yes??

I sum it up that basically the Sanfl clubs are scared of the consequences of the crows playing anywhere else but Sanfl , loss of revenue, tv , news media etc

Yeah, I'll really be upset when that 15 seconds highlights package focussing solely on AFL-listed players is dropped from the Saturday evening news bulletin. How will the SANFL ever survive without it?

[whufc]

Yep!!!!!

The SANFL is dead if we can't get our 15 seconds a week in commercial tv

How do these muppets get to the positions they are

[csbowes]

Yep!!!!!

The SANFL is dead if we can't get our 15 seconds a week in commercial tv

How do these muppets get to the positions they are

It f****n defies logic...

I suppose its our fault for not running for the boards ourselves, we end up with gutless tools.

[whufc]

Yep!!!!!

The SANFL is dead if we can't get our 15 seconds a week in commercial tv

How do these muppets get to the positions they are

It f****n defies logic...

I suppose its our fault for not running for the boards ourselves, we end up with gutless tools.

Yep it's unfortunate but it's very rare to see people fight to the death these days, all to common occurance that people take the easy way out.

[RB]

Slaven's speech tonight was basically a justification for caving in, based on fear and false assumptions. He said that WWTFC would suffer if the Crows had reserves in the amateur league. His reason for voting yes was that the club would try and use the Crows to boost their junior membership etc. He referred to the fact that he believed it important that there be a 'nexus' between the SANFL and the Crows. However he kept saying that he 'didn't know' how it would all pan out, and admitted that many of the predictions, such as Chapman's prediction that the Crows would get 4,000 every week, were impossible to be sure of at this stage.

Slaven argued that we should not reject change, but in the end he did not really explain why this would be a positive for the club or why we needed to do this. While he did not tell any obvious outright untruths, little of what he said was relevant or reason enough to do something which could seriously threaten the short and long term viability of the club. I sincerely apologize on behalf of my club to all the real SANFL supporters on this site for whom the SANFL is set to be forever sullied by the presence of the VFL reserves teams...

[whufc]

Slaven's speech tonight was basically a justification for caving in, based on fear and false assumptions. He said that WWTFC would suffer if the Crows had reserves in the amateur league. His reason for voting yes was that the club would try and use the Crows to boost their junior membership etc. He referred to the fact that he believed it important that there be a 'nexus' between the SANFL and the Crows. However he kept saying that he 'didn't know' how it would all pan out, and admitted that many of the predictions, such as Chapman's prediction that the Crows would get 4,000 every week, were impossible to be sure of at this stage.

Slaven argued that we should not reject change, but in the end he did not really explain why this would be a positive for the club or why we needed to do this. While he did not tell any obvious outright untruths, little of what he said was relevant or reason enough to do something which could seriously threaten the short and long term viability of the club. I sincerely apologize on behalf of my club to all the real SANFL supporters on this site for whom the SANFL is set to be forever sullied by the presence of the VFL reserves teams...

Sorry RB I had gained so much respect for your club due to so many great on field battles but honestly I have no respect left for that weak as piss football club!! History has a funny way of repeating and this club caves in when ever the going gets tough!!!

And yes if Centrals vote yes they will have loss my respect.

[csbowes]

I continue to be amazed how clubs can make a decision on their and the leagues future without it being sanctioned by the membership... clubs are run by the board for the board and they don't give a rats about the fans that keep it afloat.

[dedja]

Because most Boards are boys' clubs

[saintal]

I continue to be amazed how clubs can make a decision on their and the leagues future without it being sanctioned by the membership... clubs are run by the board for the board and they don't give a rats about the fans that keep it afloat.

Agree 100%. Appalling that Sturt (and a few other clubs) haven't even bothered to arrange an Q+A session. At least pretend that you're listening to your members..

[RB]

Sorry RB I had gained so much respect for your club due to so many great on field battles but honestly I have no respect left for that weak as piss football club!! History has a funny way of repeating and this club caves in when ever the going gets tough!!!

Weak as piss board, at least. I don't think that there is great support for this amongst members, but what do we matter?

At least in the merger Torrens were in financial difficulties, and whatever your ideas on toughing it out, there was at least some reasons in favour of merging. That is a whole other can of worms. However, as has been said many times, we do not need to accept the current proposals from the AFL teams. We can say no. We will be a stronger competition for it, and not a weaker one. My club in particular is in a relatively sound financial position. It is as if the AFL clubs are holding us to ransom, but instead of holding a gun to our head, they are holding a banana.

[RB]

Because most Boards are boys' clubs

Spot on. It's a yes men mentality.

[whufc]

Because most Boards are boys' clubs

Spot on. It's a yes men mentality.

Agree, it will be interesting to see how far and quick the yes voters move through the ranks.

[Dutchy]

Slaven's speech tonight was basically a justification for caving in, based on fear and false assumptions. He said that WWTFC would suffer if the Crows had reserves in the amateur league. His reason for voting yes was that the club would try and use the Crows to boost their junior membership etc. He referred to the fact that he believed it important that there be a 'nexus' between the SANFL and the Crows. However he kept saying that he 'didn't know' how it would all pan out, and admitted that many of the predictions, such as Chapman's prediction that the Crows would get 4,000 every week, were impossible to be sure of at this stage.

Slaven argued that we should not reject change, but in the end he did not really explain why this would be a positive for the club or why we needed to do this. While he did not tell any obvious outright untruths, little of what he said was relevant or reason enough to do something which could seriously threaten the short and long term viability of the club. I sincerely apologize on behalf of my club to all the real SANFL supporters on this site for whom the SANFL is set to be forever sullied by the presence of the VFL reserves teams...

Sounds like it got all too hard and it was easier to rollover and say Yes rather than do the hard work to live without the AFL umbilical chord .

Which is what I suspect my club will do BTW.

[whufc]

Did anyone question Slaven about how much of the supporter base he feels they may lose to the Ravens.

I would think the Eagles are one of the clubs to be hit by this the hardest.

[csbowes]

I'm sure Sturt were out front pushing the yes vote, blinded by the fiver Adelaide dropped on the ground before them. It's disgraceful.

My club will fold due to this decision.