Tribunal discussion/views/debate

[Jim05]

Parry got more because of his previous thuggery.
Groecke's was a joke, the umpire that reported him should get matches fir stupidity.
Didnt see Cicolella's offence.
Sutherland a bit unlucky for giving a love tap to the guts, see plenty of those every year go unpunished

[Big Phil]

Agree with the Grocke decision, not sure about 2 for Perry, thought 1 would have sufficed, and can someone tell me what Cicolella was reported for? I must have missed it.

Parry's poor record attributes to the extra games and the Cicolella one was for a bump on Logan Hill just a tad too far away to be classified a shepperd - just lined him up.

[CoverKing]

Cicollela is lucky IMO. Pretty dirty act getting a bloke that is not in the play, not attempting to get in the play and not within 10 metres of the play

[Hopeful Jelly]

On a separate thread I think I read that Aaron Fielke's report was for his "sling tackle" on Parry. Did people see a distinct difference between this tackle and Parry's or Taylor Walker's reports that saw Fielke being found not guilty whilst the other two resulted in suspensions?

Whilst the severity of a report shouldn't be based on whether a player is injured (which in my opinion the AFL does take into consideration), it was interesting to see that Parry came off the ground dazed after being on the receiving end of a tackle but from memory the other two players were not injured.

[redandblack]

Yes, HJ, Fielke's report was for the tackle on Parry.

Having seen it on video, I can well understand why the tribunal dismissed the report very quickly. It just wasn't a sling tackle.

[Reddeer]

OMG If the SANFL are going to rub out players for hard tackles, Rugby league here I come.

[Big Phil]

OMG If the SANFL are going to rub out players for hard tackles, Rugby league here I come.

They might be hard tackles, but they are dangerous and illegal tackles, hence the suspension(s).

[Aerie]

If the SANFL/AFL are so concerned about head injuries why don't they make it compulsory to wear helmets?

[The Sleeping Giant]

OMG If the SANFL are going to rub out players for hard tackles, Rugby league here I come.

Rugby League has a dangerous tackle policy also.

[Reddeer]

Might as well start playing non touch and soften the game up totally. What a load of crap the game is becoming. Will finish up as the Australian version of gridiron, GHU

[Big Phil]

If the SANFL/AFL are so concerned about head injuries why don't they make it compulsory to wear helmets?

There has been some discussions in recent times that this may well unfold in future years...

[Hazydog]

If the SANFL/AFL are so concerned about head injuries why don't they make it compulsory to wear helmets?

There has been some discussions in recent times that this may well unfold in future years...

The AFL, (and it seems now the SANFL), are treading very thin ice with the way they are changing the fabric of the game when it comes to dealing with issues that involve any contact to the head. Whilst I completely understand the reason to protect players, I think they are going too far.

I can see a time down the track where a player taking mark of year is suspended as a result of his opponent being dazed from a knee in the head, (which happens regularly when players "go for a fly".)

Just where do you draw the line?

[CENTURION]

you draw the line at deliberate, dangerous & totally unnecessary contact. simple really. once again, once you have a player in a tackle, where he can't either dispose of the ball or break free, there is nothing further required to get an umpire's adjudication. It will either be a bounce, play on, or holding the ball. By slinging the player, you have now placed yourself in a position where the ball can break free anyway BUT will possibly injure the opponent &/or place the slinger on report.

[smac]

The decisions are in from the busy Round of tribunal hearings...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/league/reports/ ... e_reports/


Jason Sutherland (Central)
Striking
Intentional Conduct - Low Impact - Body Contact
125 points
-20% Guilty Plea
100 Total Points
1 Match

Luke Barmby (Central)
Charging
Negligent Conduct - Low Impact - Body Contact
125 Points
-20% Guilty Plea
100 Total Points
1 Match

I find it fasinating that negligent and intentional contact are the same (all other factors in the two reports do not differ). Why have a differentiation if there is nothing different about them?

And given Sutherland's was a soft 'jumper punch', why don't we have a 'soft as butter conduct' category to ensure these things are captured properly?

[CENTURION]

Furthermore, is there anyone left to play Sturt?

[redandblack]

you draw the line at deliberate, dangerous & totally unnecessary contact. simple really. once again, once you have a player in a tackle, where he can't either dispose of the ball or break free, there is nothing further required to get an umpire's adjudication. It will either be a bounce, play on, or holding the ball. By slinging the player, you have now placed yourself in a position where the ball can break free anyway BUT will possibly injure the opponent &/or place the slinger on report.

Good post, I agree.

[CENTURION]

you draw the line at deliberate, dangerous & totally unnecessary contact. simple really. once again, once you have a player in a tackle, where he can't either dispose of the ball or break free, there is nothing further required to get an umpire's adjudication. It will either be a bounce, play on, or holding the ball. By slinging the player, you have now placed yourself in a position where the ball can break free anyway BUT will possibly injure the opponent &/or place the slinger on report.

Good post, I agree.

see? I'm not ALWAYS an idiot.

[FlyingHigh]

If the SANFL/AFL are so concerned about head injuries why don't they make it compulsory to wear helmets?

There has been some discussions in recent times that this may well unfold in future years...

Reckon I've read somewhere that a lot of sports scientists think these type of head head injuries caused more by the whiplash and jerking of the brain rather than the actual physical contact, so many injuries wouldn't be prevented by helmets?

[CENTURION]

there's nothing one can do about accidents.

[Jim05]

Surely the Dogs will appeal the Sutherlands verdict, that was weak as piss