AFL Reserves Discussion...

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Are you in favour of the proposal for the Crows Reserves to join the SANFL League competition?

Yes
35
17%
No
148
74%
Not fussed either way
18
9%
 
Total votes : 201

Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:55 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Macca19 wrote:Adelaide also have 47 players on their list so may not require any top up players some weeks


So there AFL team play at home with 22 players and they have no injuries, 25 available for the SAAFL game, where do the other 4 go? :lol:

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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby tipper » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:57 pm

someone has to carry the drinks.....
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby beenreal » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:59 pm

I can just imagine the recruiting sell from the AFC. "Come the crows and play in the Amateurs. Sure, you'll get your head punched in playing against yobbos, but it'll only be for a couple of years."

Good luck with that one. :axe:
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby DoublebluTiger » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:00 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Macca19 wrote:Adelaide also have 47 players on their list so may not require any top up players some weeks


So there AFL team play at home with 22 players and they have no injuries, 25 available for the SAAFL game, where do the other 4 go? :lol:

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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby MatteeG » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:09 pm

stan wrote: AFL listed players have been dropped before.


Then usually they have a cry and get moved to the magpies...
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Apachebulldog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:14 pm

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6691697818

Read some of the comments from Crow supporters and have a laugh on the above link i have responded to comment 33 i wonder if they will publish my comments ????
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:17 pm

MatteeG wrote:
stan wrote: AFL listed players have been dropped before.


Then usually they have a cry and get moved to the magpies...


Or from South to Glenelg. Who would have ever thought that would have been a bad move?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:26 pm

Booney wrote:
MatteeG wrote:
stan wrote: AFL listed players have been dropped before.


Then usually they have a cry and get moved to the magpies...


Or from South to Glenelg. Who would have ever thought that would have been a bad move?


its not a BAD move, its a tactic they use. They believe they will stand out in a poor team :lol:
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby tipper » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:49 pm

um, is this right? is it over? did we win? can we trust the advertiser to have it right?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6691697818

edit: have i ****** up and just posted a link that has already been linked?? sorry i think i have. :oops:
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby passionatelegsfan » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:02 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-says-it-will-get-a-reserves-side-but-not-in-the-sanfl-next-year/story-fnii0294-1226691697818

Read some of the comments from Crow supporters and have a laugh on the above link i have responded to comment 33 i wonder if they will publish my comments ????


Its the best laugh I have had in ages. So bitter the crows and power supporters lol. I believe after hearing all those port supporters bag the sanfl that they should be forced to change their guersneys as a condition of staying in the SANFL. The victorians of course would not allow them to keep their traditional guersney, emblem and nickname as they believed they were inferior to the victorian magpies. So if it was not for the SANFL everything about the traditional port magpies would no longer exist. But the Port fans say their thanks by sledging our great league. And finally i know the fight is not over but i want to personally extend my thanks to all the organisers of the no AFL in SANFL campaign. There is no way that any of the directors would be against if not for people power so well done to you guys. You's have done a great thing for south australian football.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Apachebulldog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:22 pm

Well i hope its over and if it is i say

Centurion and the Praetorian Guard consisting of all SANFL posters say Veni Vidi Vinci !!!!!!
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Apachebulldog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:27 pm

My comment published Adelaide Now


John Dawson Adelaide post 33 i suggest you do some research re the WAFL and VFL average crowds per game its 2,000 and also over the last ten years Grand Final attendances half that of the SANFL. Last weekend Box Hill Hawks versus Bendigo Gold attracted 150 spectators says it all does it not.If the AFC was serious they would of had option B and put forward a submission to play in the SANFL reserves instead of embarassing themselves by now supposedly sending their players to the amateur divison next year. AFC you are not serious regarding your players and you are a joke. No AFL In The SANFL.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby LPH » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:29 pm

The battle may be won but the War continues...

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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Ecky » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:59 pm

Some further analysis of crowd figures that I think is of interest to this debate:

Below are the total minor round attendances for both the SANFL (first column) and the AFL games at Footy Park (plus the one Port game at Adelaide Oval in 2011), (second column) with the last column indicating the percentage of total supporters that attended the SANFL. I didn't include finals as these fluctuate more depending on the teams involved.

Year SANFL AFL in Adelaide SANFL %
2012 259,242 624139 29.35%
2011 291,209 623684 31.83%
2010 276,583 646887 29.95%
2009 263,125 694645 27.47%
2008 275,842 709713 27.99%
2007 258,308 768482 25.16%
2006 255,446 766831 24.99%
2005 259,331 827768 23.86%
2004 253,597 767311 24.84%
2003 260,137 840061 23.64%

The percentage of footy fans that have chosen to attend the SANFL over the AFL has risen significantly over the last 10 years, from approx 23% to 30%! I know that this is partly due to the issues with Footy Park, but regardless, why are our opinions discounted so quickly by the media and AFL fans when we are a very significant and growing component of the football landscape in SA?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Aerie » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:05 pm

Good work ecky. Interesting stats.

I think the media portrayal of Footy Park had a lot to do with it becoming increasingly unpopular. Anyone concerned the media bashing of the SANFL will have a similar effect?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby JK » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:12 pm

According to Rucci the current count is 6-2 in favour.

According to McDermott - "Norwood and Central are the problem children"
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby beenreal » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:15 pm

passionatelegsfan wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/adelaide-says-it-will-get-a-reserves-side-but-not-in-the-sanfl-next-year/story-fnii0294-1226691697818

Read some of the comments from Crow supporters and have a laugh on the above link i have responded to comment 33 i wonder if they will publish my comments ????


Its the best laugh I have had in ages. So bitter the crows and power supporters lol. I believe after hearing all those port supporters bag the sanfl that they should be forced to change their guersneys as a condition of staying in the SANFL. The victorians of course would not allow them to keep their traditional guersney, emblem and nickname as they believed they were inferior to the victorian magpies. So if it was not for the SANFL everything about the traditional port magpies would no longer exist. But the Port fans say their thanks by sledging our great league. And finally i know the fight is not over but i want to personally extend my thanks to all the organisers of the no AFL in SANFL campaign. There is no way that any of the directors would be against if not for people power so well done to you guys. You's have done a great thing for south australian football.


So by reading this, Tripodi's pettiness is ingrained throughout the NFC.

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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:21 pm

Ecky wrote:Some further analysis of crowd figures that I think is of interest to this debate:

Below are the total minor round attendances for both the SANFL (first column) and the AFL games at Footy Park (plus the one Port game at Adelaide Oval in 2011), (second column) with the last column indicating the percentage of total supporters that attended the SANFL. I didn't include finals as these fluctuate more depending on the teams involved.

Year SANFL AFL in Adelaide SANFL %
2012 259,242 624139 29.35%
2011 291,209 623684 31.83%
2010 276,583 646887 29.95%
2009 263,125 694645 27.47%
2008 275,842 709713 27.99%
2007 258,308 768482 25.16%
2006 255,446 766831 24.99%
2005 259,331 827768 23.86%
2004 253,597 767311 24.84%
2003 260,137 840061 23.64%

The percentage of footy fans that have chosen to attend the SANFL over the AFL has risen significantly over the last 10 years, from approx 23% to 30%! I know that this is partly due to the issues with Footy Park, but regardless, why are our opinions discounted so quickly by the media and AFL fans when we are a very significant and growing component of the football landscape in SA?



I just plotted the figures, looks like there is a minor correlation between the two lines. Would be interested to see the home crowds of each SANFL club by year, overlaid with ladder position, and repeating for AFL clubs, to see how much the crowd figures are dependent on the success of the relative clubs. (Ie - in the SANFL I'm guessing years that Norwood has done well will be more likely to be higher SANFL crowd years).

Assuming the SANFL clubs still derive a big slice of income from AFL home games, then the key to long term SANFL success is increasing the AFL average crowds - to compensate the drops caused by a variety of factors, such as: AAMI stadium, poor on-field performance, poor timeslots, live against the gate/live Foxtel etc.

Of the above AFL factors listed, I'm guessing the one that the AFL clubs have the most control over are on-field performance, as these will in turn (if the AFL can be believed) result in better timeslots and better crowds. So the key to financial flowback to SANFL is really getting the AFL clubs winning games is it not ?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby passionatelegsfan » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:23 pm

To Been Real - I am just one person and i have nothing to do with the Norwood board. Obviously my 'petty' views do not represent the view of my club. However if my pettiness bothers you I suggest you have a word to your fellow Port faithful who feel the need to trash the SANFL at every opportunity. Port should apologise to the SANFL and SA footy fans for everything you have put us through and thank yourselves lucky you are still allowed in the SANFL.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Apachebulldog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:24 pm

Listening to 5aa Rooch reckons that Slaven stiill agrees in priciple however but the question is when and where League or reserves ????

So by that comment he still not a guaranteed No vote.

Looks like war is still not won.
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