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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:09 am
by JK
SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k


That's what I said at the time we sold our soul, they should have been forced to underwrite an attendance figure if they were that confident/arrogant/full of shit about their drawing power.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:29 am
by bennymacca
Or the clubs that voted yes could have done their due diligence too...

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:33 am
by JK
bennymacca wrote:Or the clubs that voted yes could have done their due diligence too...


It's not like that hasn't been acknowledged a million times

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:36 am
by bennymacca
Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:36 am
by JK
bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:38 am
by stan
JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point

If we dont start bringing up old shit again we risk running out of material.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:48 am
by CUTTERMAN
SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k

I brought this up with Burtenshaw numerous times trying to get a straight answer due to Sturt having the highest match day overheads in the comp. Eventually he said that they wouldn't be overwriting a break even crowd for the host club.
They weren't putting their money where their mouth was. Now it's looking the same way with Power reserves and their attendances.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:50 am
by johntheclaret
stan wrote:
JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point

If we dont start bringing up old shit again we risk running out of material.

Agreed
No AFL in the SANFL .

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:39 am
by JK
CUTTERMAN wrote:
SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k

I brought this up with Burtenshaw numerous times trying to get a straight answer due to Sturt having the highest match day overheads in the comp. Eventually he said that they wouldn't be overwriting a break even crowd for the host club.
They weren't putting their money where their mouth was. Now it's looking the same way with Power reserves and their attendances.


IF the Crows genuinely believed they were going to bring through big crowds why didn't they ever try to establish a home base and have their own matchday revenue?

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:56 am
by stan
johntheclaret wrote:
stan wrote:
JK wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Hey, it is the never ending thread after all :)


lol fair point

If we dont start bringing up old shit again we risk running out of material.

Agreed
No AFL in the SANFL .

Lol back to basics.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:20 pm
by Wedgie
bennymacca wrote:Or the clubs that voted yes could have done their due diligence too...

Clubs didn't get a vote, league delegates did.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:22 pm
by bennymacca
Forgive my ignorance, what's the difference?

The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:24 pm
by Jim05
bennymacca wrote:Forgive my ignorance, what's the difference?

The delegates went against members wishes. In Norwood's case about 60% didnt want them in and either did several board members.
I also believe some delegates went against their board's wishes

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:25 pm
by bennymacca
But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:27 pm
by Jim05
bennymacca wrote:But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?

Not when they are looking after their own interests rather than the club

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:31 pm
by bennymacca
Jim05 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?

Not when they are looking after their own interests rather than the club


That's a separate issue though.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:39 pm
by Pseudo
bennymacca wrote:But the delegate is appointed by the club to represent the club, correct?

Appointed by the club, but to be impartial. At Glenelg's information night Nick Chigwidden explained that the vote was his alone to make and that he had to do it not in the interests of Glenelg but in the interests of the SANFL.

I am not excusing how he or five other delegates voted. A lot of people voiced concerns to them before the vote was made. In many cases these concerns were ignored, or given token recognition via "information nights" which had no bearing on the delegates' decision. Fair to say that most of these concerns have since been demonstrated to be well-founded.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 1:41 pm
by CUTTERMAN
JK wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:
SANFLnut wrote:If the Crows promised 4000 per game and are only getting 2000 per game then the SANFL should send them an invoice for the shortfall.
2000 fans x 18 games x $10 average spend (not even going to bother with admission) = $360 k

I brought this up with Burtenshaw numerous times trying to get a straight answer due to Sturt having the highest match day overheads in the comp. Eventually he said that they wouldn't be overwriting a break even crowd for the host club.
They weren't putting their money where their mouth was. Now it's looking the same way with Power reserves and their attendances.


IF the Crows genuinely believed they were going to bring through big crowds why didn't they ever try to establish a home base and have their own matchday revenue?

As part of giving back to the clubs and helping them increase their game day revenues

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:12 pm
by Dogwatcher
I knew it. Finally, it's happened. Someone blamed Barack.

Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:47 pm
by johntheclaret
Dogwatcher wrote:I knew it. Finally, it's happened. Someone blamed Barack.

The bloody yanks have to stick their beaks into everyone's business. :lol: