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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:48 pm

Aerie wrote:They'll see that Port's model works better than the Crows. Crows will swallow an SANFL club for 2015 and we'll be just like the WAFL.


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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:50 pm

Booney wrote:
Aerie wrote:They'll see that Port's model works better than the Crows. Crows will swallow an SANFL club for 2015 and we'll be just like the WAFL.


This ^


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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:54 pm

Big Phil wrote:From Localfootysa...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6711688926

The Port Adelaide Magpies will be allowed to play in the SANFL next year

Port Adelaide can keep the Magpies and all the Magpies' extra teams - reserves and under-age with their recruiting zones - for just one more year.

The SANFL league directors today rejected the Port Adelaide Football Club's push for a Power AFL reserves team in the SANFL league competition - and an "academy" team in the SANFL reserves competition.

The SA Football Commission and league directors have told Port Adelaide they can put their excess AFL players in the SANFL next year and keep the full-scale Magpies next year.

What do you think? Have your say below now!

But from 2015 the Port Adelaide system must mirror exactly that of the Crows - an AFL league side, an AFL reserves side in the SANFL league competition and nothing else. Port Adelaide would have to claim "top-up" players for its AFL reserves team in the same way the Crows will - from SANFL rivals or from amateur and country clubs.

Port Adelaide's board will meet on Tuesday to consider this proposal.

If the board rejects, the SANFL league directors can force Port Adelaide's hand by revoking the Magpies licence.

Port Adelaide chief executive Keith Thomas issued this statement after the league directors' meeting: "The Port Adelaide Football Club confirms that the SANFL league directors met this morning and voted to agree to amendments to an AFL reserves model which would enable the club's non-selected AFL listed players to represent the Magpies in the SANFL league competition from 2014.

"It is awaiting written confirmation from the SANFL of the terms of the proposal. Once it has received the written proposal it is the club's intention to be able to provide a more detailed response later today."


Oh you beauty West can replace Hartlett now too, who else do Norwood and West have on Ports list that are homegrown
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby SimonH » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:56 pm

The line that Rucci (and some of the 'SANFL/SA Football Commission is responsible for every bad thing that ever happens to Port' cheerleaders) runs, that it's time someone called 'bullshit' on, is the following:

"If the board rejects, the SANFL league directors can force Port Adelaide's hand by revoking the Magpies licence."

Booting out the Magpies is not an agenda item, not a proposal, not an anything. The Port Adelaide Football Club is looking to change the arrangements of where its AFL-listed, non-selected players play. No-one else is looking to change that arrangement for the PAFC. Everyone else is content for the PAFC to continue with the status quo. The PAFC's proposal for change has been rejected by the SANFL. The SANFL has put a counter-offer. Negotiations continue. Revocation of the Port Adelaide Magpies' licence to play in the SANFL has not been the subject of those negotiations. "Well, they're forcing us to agree to their terms or they will just revoke the Magpies' licence" is a bogeyman invented by those who can't man up and accept that this is a Port Adelaide-driven proposal, and if Port Adelaide agrees to terms that kill the Magpies as a proper SANFL team, that will be Port Adelaide's choice.

And yes, technically the SANFL could revoke the Magpies' licence. In the same way that Tony Abbott could move to NZ to marry his gay partner. The fact that something could happen, doesn't mean that insertion of the claim in a story that it possibly will happen, is anything other than misleading bullshit.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:13 pm

SimonH wrote:The line that Rucci (and some of the 'SANFL/SA Football Commission is responsible for every bad thing that ever happens to Port' cheerleaders) runs, that it's time someone called 'bullshit' on, is the following:

"If the board rejects, the SANFL league directors can force Port Adelaide's hand by revoking the Magpies licence."

Booting out the Magpies is not an agenda item, not a proposal, not an anything. The Port Adelaide Football Club is looking to change the arrangements of where its AFL-listed, non-selected players play. No-one else is looking to change that arrangement for the PAFC. Everyone else is content for the PAFC to continue with the status quo. The PAFC's proposal for change has been rejected by the SANFL. The SANFL has put a counter-offer. Negotiations continue. Revocation of the Port Adelaide Magpies' licence to play in the SANFL has not been the subject of those negotiations. "Well, they're forcing us to agree to their terms or they will just revoke the Magpies' licence" is a bogeyman invented by those who can't man up and accept that this is a Port Adelaide-driven proposal, and if Port Adelaide agrees to terms that kill the Magpies as a proper SANFL team, that will be Port Adelaide's choice.

And yes, technically the SANFL could revoke the Magpies' licence. In the same way that Tony Abbott could move to NZ to marry his gay partner. The fact that something could happen, doesn't mean that insertion of the claim in a story that it possibly will happen, is anything other than misleading bullshit.


So you're saying what could happen, might not. Then again what might not, could. Astounding.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby SimonH » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:58 pm

Booney wrote:So you're saying what could happen, might not. Then again what might not, could. Astounding.

Actually, I'm calling 'bullshit' on an argument that is patently bullshit. My use of the word 'bullshit' was a bit of a giveaway. Feel free to argue the contrary, if you have a shred of evidence or any argument to put.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Panther Pack » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:44 pm

Does port have the same salary cap as all the other SANFL clubs for season 2015?
If so they will be able to keep all their good SANFL players and top up with all the Power players not playing AFL which would seem unfair.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Jim05 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:46 pm

Panther Pack wrote:Does port have the same salary cap as all the other SANFL clubs for season 2015?
If so they will be able to keep all their good SANFL players and top up with all the Power players not playing AFL which would seem unfair.

That must not be allowed. No current player in Ports league side should be allowed to play for the Power Reserves next year. If they must be in it needs to be the same deal as the Cows, AFL listed players and topped up with kids
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Jim05 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:48 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Oh you beauty West can replace Hartlett now too, who else do Norwood and West have on Ports list that are homegrown

Jonas and Pfeiffer although id expect the later to be cut
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Panther Pack » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:52 pm

So next season do the power listed players all play for the magpies or are they still spread across all SANFL clubs?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby on the rails » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:59 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Panther Pack wrote:Does port have the same salary cap as all the other SANFL clubs for season 2015?
If so they will be able to keep all their good SANFL players and top up with all the Power players not playing AFL which would seem unfair.

That must not be allowed. No current player in Ports league side should be allowed to play for the Power Reserves next year. If they must be in it needs to be the same deal as the Cows, AFL listed players and topped up with kids


Yep - another SANFL back flip by agreeing to this! Both AFL Teams will have different models which again is a slap in the face to the supposed "maintaining integrity" of the comp.

Just wait and see - the Crows will have an Academy side by 2015 playing in our Reserves Comp which will most likely mean the best U18's will be lured from the 8 SANFL Clubs to train, develop and play under AFL conditions which diminishes our U18's comp? The League is piss weak - they should have stood firm with Port and forced them to agree to the Crows model.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Jim05 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:03 pm

Dont see why Port wants an academy side, they do realise there is a thing called the draft and hardly any end up staying here dont they?
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Macca19 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:15 pm

Jim05 wrote:Dont see why Port wants an academy side, they do realise there is a thing called the draft and hardly any end up staying here dont they?


Id say one positive is it gives the club more freedom in what they do with AFL reserves players. If they genuinely aren't good enough for the SANFL then they can put them in the academy side, unlike the Crows who are forced to play everyone in the SANFL league.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Lynwood » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:23 pm

on the rails wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Panther Pack wrote:Does port have the same salary cap as all the other SANFL clubs for season 2015?
If so they will be able to keep all their good SANFL players and top up with all the Power players not playing AFL which would seem unfair.

That must not be allowed. No current player in Ports league side should be allowed to play for the Power Reserves next year. If they must be in it needs to be the same deal as the Cows, AFL listed players and topped up with kids


Yep - another SANFL back flip by agreeing to this! Both AFL Teams will have different models which again is a slap in the face to the supposed "maintaining integrity" of the comp.

Just wait and see - the Crows will have an Academy side by 2015 playing in our Reserves Comp which will most likely mean the best U18's will be lured from the 8 SANFL Clubs to train, develop and play under AFL conditions which diminishes our U18's comp? The League is piss weak - they should have stood firm with Port and forced them to agree to the Crows model.


Top ups only under 22, the Magpie players were told at training tonight and all looked angry with it all. They were called in after they had already started training rather then before or after.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:40 pm

Yep. Over 22 year olds advised they won't be required. That's it....
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby whufc » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:47 pm

Booney wrote:Yep. Over 22 year olds advised they won't be required. That's it....


Don't worry in 3 years that will be the standard rule for all 10 clubs in the SADFL (south australian development football league)

But at least all ten clubs will be rich and get to prove it to all 521 supporters who attend the matches
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby zipzap » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:53 pm

Panther Pack wrote:So next season do the power listed players all play for the magpies or are they still spread across all SANFL clubs?


Yeah, I'm a little confused too...can someone clarify?

It's this phrase: "Port Adelaide...can put their excess AFL players in the SANFL next year and keep the full-scale Magpies next year"
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby Booney » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:58 pm

It says the clubs non selected AFL listed players will play for the Magpies. As noted above, Magpie players over 22 years of age were told at training tonight they wont be at the club next year.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:23 pm

Let the picking over the carcass begin.
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Re: Port Adelaide Reserves

Postby heater31 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:25 pm

Booney wrote:It says the clubs non selected AFL listed players will play for the Magpies. As noted above, Magpie players over 22 years of age were told at training tonight they wont be at the club next year.


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