AFL Reserves Discussion...

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Are you in favour of the proposal for the Crows Reserves to join the SANFL League competition?

Yes
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No
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Not fussed either way
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Wedgie » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:21 am

on the rails wrote:Keith Thomas and his "I wish" article mentioned that the Power would not undermine the Magpies or the integrity of the SANFL comp by banning Power listed players from playing in SANFL finals to have corrective surgery!

Well of course he is not going to ban them if they are all playing for the Magpies under his model yet last season the majority of the Power listed players with other SANFL Clubs were banned! What a f**kin hypocrite! I will wait with much interest as to what the PAFC does this year as North again will have Blee, Moore and Stewart all qualified and suprisingly none of them were able to play last year along with the farcial Aaron Young "leg injury" excuse but he was able to run in the AFL GF sprint during the SANFL finals. Integrity my arse - liars and cheats!

Beat me to the punch. Keith Thomas is either extremely stupid, blatantly ignorant or just a huge joke.
Mind you those 3 sentiments sum up the entire Power franchise atm so he's probably a good fit.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby CENTURION » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:00 am

kickinit wrote:
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whufc wrote:
kickinit wrote:there's any easy way settle all of this. The SANFL sell of the AFL license, The crows and power move their reserves players interstate, and the SANFL is removed from the SMA. It will be interesting to see how long the SANFL will survive without any involvement from the AFL


no matter how much you want it to happen it wont!!!!

we did ok before!


yeh you did, but have a look at the crowd figures back then compared to now.

were they all Port supporters?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby areaman » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:54 am

Ian wrote:
whufc wrote:
once again Beenreal whats the benefit to the other 8 SANFL clubs?


None what soever, but isn't that the Port Adelaide way, so long as Port see a advantage to them selves the rest can go **** themselves!!

Karma will be a bitch..................................

Despite a fair bit of huffing and puffing about their proud history, our good friends beenreal and kickinit have not been able to provide one reason that the 8 SANFL clubs should consider letting AFL reserves sides into the comp.

If Keith Thomas and his mates can't front the league and do a better job than beenreal and kickinit then this concept won't get off the ground at all.

Just remember, we don't want to hear why it's a good thing for Port (we know you'd like to keep the Power squad together) or even how we're all jealous of your proud existance before the biblical times. All we would like to know is how it will be a positive thing for the SANFL competition and it's 8 other clubs.

The challenge is there for any Port fan on this site to outline a constructive vision for all in the SANFL.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:56 am

I can understand what KT is doing, like any negotiation he is laying it out there what they would like for his club, which is his job, I doubt that they expect to get everything but hoping they can get a portion of it when negotiations begin fully.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Aerie » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:56 am

Wedgie wrote:
on the rails wrote:Keith Thomas and his "I wish" article mentioned that the Power would not undermine the Magpies or the integrity of the SANFL comp by banning Power listed players from playing in SANFL finals to have corrective surgery!

Well of course he is not going to ban them if they are all playing for the Magpies under his model yet last season the majority of the Power listed players with other SANFL Clubs were banned! What a f**kin hypocrite! I will wait with much interest as to what the PAFC does this year as North again will have Blee, Moore and Stewart all qualified and suprisingly none of them were able to play last year along with the farcial Aaron Young "leg injury" excuse but he was able to run in the AFL GF sprint during the SANFL finals. Integrity my arse - liars and cheats!

Beat me to the punch. Keith Thomas is either extremely stupid, blatantly ignorant or just a huge joke.
Mind you those 3 sentiments sum up the entire Power franchise atm so he's probably a good fit.


I was trying to be open minded about the situation, but Keith Thomas' letter to his members has tipped me over the edge. I am glad that he is honest and Port have laid what they want on the table, but what they want is completely unacceptable IMO.

Now for the other parties to let everyone know what they want.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Ecky » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:28 pm

That Keith Thomas letter has made me the angriest I have been with Port since the 1992 Grand Final (and before that the various events of 1990)! :evil:

A similar situation would be if the Glenelg CEO made a statement that we deserve to have a much higher salary cap than everyone else simply because we want to win more premierships than everyone else! How is that fair?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Macca19 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:34 pm

Just remember, Thomas is the SANFL patsy that got pushed into that role
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Macca19 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:49 pm

Ian wrote:
whufc wrote:
once again Beenreal whats the benefit to the other 8 SANFL clubs?


None what soever, but isn't that the Port Adelaide way, so long as Port see a advantage to them selves the rest can go **** themselves!!

Karma will be a bitch..................................


Of course its looking for an advantage for themselves. Why wouldnt they be? Or do you expect football clubs to sit on their hands dealing with the status quo just because thats how its done, never to look for improvements or advantages over their opposition?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby sjt » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:12 pm

Macca19 wrote:
Ian wrote:
whufc wrote:
once again Beenreal whats the benefit to the other 8 SANFL clubs?


None what soever, but isn't that the Port Adelaide way, so long as Port see a advantage to them selves the rest can go **** themselves!!

Karma will be a bitch..................................


Of course its looking for an advantage for themselves. Why wouldnt they be? Or do you expect football clubs to sit on their hands dealing with the status quo just because thats how its done, never to look for improvements or advantages over their opposition?


Agreed, we know Ports track record of only considering themselves, that's why I'm disappointed in the other SANFL clubs allowing the recent transfer of the Port Power players to Port Magpies. I'm not sure why they rolled over so easily. We all know when they say they won't gain an unfair advantage etc. they're lying.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Macca19 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:27 pm

So what did Thomas say that was so wrong? Or are people predictably just whinging for the sake of whinging again?

Also predictable that Port are getting slammed for this whilst "peoples favourite" Adelaide go under the radar yet again, despite being more vocal than Port has been about getting a reserves team over the past couple of years.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Aerie » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:39 pm

Macca19 wrote:So what did Thomas say that was so wrong? Or are people predictably just whinging for the sake of whinging again?

Also predictable that Port are getting slammed for this whilst "peoples favourite" Adelaide go under the radar yet again, despite being more vocal than Port has been about getting a reserves team over the past couple of years.


Can you not see from another perspective? The integrity of the SANFL is important. A Port reserves team playing in the SANFL league would destroy that integrity. Keith Thomas wants a Reserves team in the SANFL league.

If Crows come out and say the same thing, they would be thought of the same way.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:43 pm

(I know what will be said)

Did people see the SANFL as compromised when Woodville and Centrals joined?

Did people see the SANFL as compromised then Woodville and West Torrens merged?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby heater31 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:43 pm

sjt wrote:
Macca19 wrote:
Ian wrote:
whufc wrote:
once again Beenreal whats the benefit to the other 8 SANFL clubs?


None what soever, but isn't that the Port Adelaide way, so long as Port see a advantage to them selves the rest can go **** themselves!!

Karma will be a bitch..................................


Of course its looking for an advantage for themselves. Why wouldnt they be? Or do you expect football clubs to sit on their hands dealing with the status quo just because thats how its done, never to look for improvements or advantages over their opposition?


Agreed, we know Ports track record of only considering themselves, that's why I'm disappointed in the other SANFL clubs allowing the recent transfer of the Port Power players to Port Magpies. I'm not sure why they rolled over so easily. We all know when they say they won't gain an unfair advantage etc. they're lying.


Think there is a set transfer fee if that is met then I don't think the SANFL club has any grounds to hold them....
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:53 pm

Booney wrote:(I know what will be said)

Did people see the SANFL as compromised when Woodville and Centrals joined?

Did people see the SANFL as compromised then Woodville and West Torrens merged?


So care to enlighten us on what will be said?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Armytank » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:54 pm

Booney wrote:(I know what will be said)

Did people see the SANFL as compromised when Woodville and Centrals joined?

Did people see the SANFL as compromised then Woodville and West Torrens merged?


There were no ulterior motives in those circumstances, Woodville and Centrals joined for the same purpose as the rest of the league, to compete for the SANFL premiership. Woodville and West Torrens merged to ensure they remained viable to continue to compete for the SANFL premiership.

Adelaide Crows or Port Power will not compete in the SANFL for the sole purpose of competing for the SANFL premiership, and that is how the SANFL will be compromised.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Macca19 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:56 pm

Aerie wrote:Can you not see from another perspective? The integrity of the SANFL is important. A Port reserves team playing in the SANFL league would destroy that integrity. Keith Thomas wants a Reserves team in the SANFL league.

If Crows come out and say the same thing, they would be thought of the same way.


Thats fine. But the numerous posts here calling Thomas a clown and comical and "ive lost all respect for him" for daring to be open and transparent about what he wants for his football club is pathetic. Hes putting it all out there for the entire SA footballing public to see. I commend him for putting it all out there. Whats Adelaides CEO doing at the moment?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:58 pm

Macca19 wrote:
Aerie wrote:Can you not see from another perspective? The integrity of the SANFL is important. A Port reserves team playing in the SANFL league would destroy that integrity. Keith Thomas wants a Reserves team in the SANFL league.

If Crows come out and say the same thing, they would be thought of the same way.


Thats fine. But the numerous posts here calling Thomas a clown and comical and "ive lost all respect for him" for daring to be open and transparent about what he wants for his football club is pathetic. Hes putting it all out there for the entire SA footballing public to see. I commend him for putting it all out there. Whats Adelaides CEO doing at the moment?


Nobody would know. He isn't allowed to talk to anyone. :D
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Cambridge Clarrie » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:00 pm

Booney wrote:(I know what will be said)

Did people see the SANFL as compromised when Woodville and Centrals joined?

Did people see the SANFL as compromised then Woodville and West Torrens merged?


Wow - this post speaks volumes about your understanding of the issue.
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Ecky » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:06 pm

Macca19 wrote:Thats fine. But the numerous posts here calling Thomas a clown and comical and "ive lost all respect for him" for daring to be open and transparent about what he wants for his football club is pathetic. Hes putting it all out there for the entire SA footballing public to see. I commend him for putting it all out there. Whats Adelaides CEO doing at the moment?

It isn't the fact that he is being transparent that we have the problem with.

It is the fact that he says they want to use the resources of an AFL club to win SANFL premierships which creates a completely uneven playing field against the other SANFL clubs and contradicts the condition of the "One Club" merger that the Power and Magpies football operations will be run independently. How is it fair if the Magpies have access to AFL listed players while other SANFL clubs don't?

If this were to happen the biggest factor that would determine the winner of the SANFL premiership would be the number of injuries to Power listed players. If Port have very few injuries, they would be likely to easily win the SANFL premiership, but if they have many injuries, then would likely to be thrashed. How can a competition have any real credibility if the winner is largely determined by the injuries to a team that is part of a different competition?
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Re: AFL Reserves Discussion...

Postby Booney » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:06 pm

Cambridge Clarrie wrote:
Booney wrote:(I know what will be said)
Did people see the SANFL as compromised when Woodville and Centrals joined?
Did people see the SANFL as compromised then Woodville and West Torrens merged?

Wow - this post speaks volumes about your understanding of the issue.


:D

Wow. I thought I'd add to the pages of nonsensical posts. I hope you jump on all of them like that. ;)
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