Proposed model for the Magpies - Power Joint Venture?

[Barto]

OK by me, so long as they return the license fees. With interest.

They paid for their license fee themselves, and bring millions into the SANFL coffers each year. (even though they are losing money themselves)

They have nothing to pay back.

Psuedo is talking about the AFL. The SANFL paid for them, if the AFL just rip the licences off them then they should pay for them.

Psuedo's made a good point as to why it's a bluff.

[Barto]

Surely Rucci wants the Magpies to die? He'd have to be completely dumb arse stupid if he thought his dribble would actually help the cause and I don't think it would be possible for anyone to be that stupid? Surely?

I don't know why he's so fervent if he truly believes that the original Port "rose to the AFL". That description makes them sound like a "floater"

[CUTTERMAN]

The AFL would love the 2 licences to be out of the Sanfls hands to **** them up once and for all, they've already been paid for so what's to stop them revoking them, let's face it they make up the rules as they go on and off the field.
It's interesting that the only point from my previous post that has been discussed is whether or not port has been in financial difficulty before, nothing mentioned about the posed questions of the breakdown of it all.

Well, good luck to all Maggie's supporters for this year, it's gonna be a year of back to the wall wins and utter utter despair.
I hope WESLO are gonna be on the ball at the suburban grounds this year.

[Wedgie]

I hope WESLO are gonna be on the ball at the suburban grounds this year.

North get to play at Alberton twice including the last minor round game this year. As we tend to pack the outer like no other club there it could be interesting!

[on the rails]

I hope WESLO are gonna be on the ball at the suburban grounds this year.

North get to play at Alberton twice including the last minor round game this year. As we tend to pack the outer like no other club there it could be interesting!

If it is the Pies last game ever then you might have to get there early to get in. Mind you may not be a safe place for Chook supporters with the anti North rubbish being thrown about like a mad womans custard by Port fans and that wanker Rucci despite the fact every other club will vote the same way.

[am Bays]

Hooray, this place finally fires up after four months. Nothing Ruccistronics to get the site jumping...

[Hondo]

OK by me, so long as they return the license fees. With interest.

They paid for their license fee themselves, and bring millions into the SANFL coffers each year. (even though they are losing money themselves)

They have nothing to pay back.

Psuedo is talking about the AFL. The SANFL paid for them, if the AFL just rip the licences off them then they should pay for them.

Psuedo's made a good point as to why it's a bluff.

Didn't Port and the Crows effectively pay for/reimburse those same license fees over a number of years' instalments (Port maybe still paying)? Or am I confused?

Not that I think it would happen, but wouldn't it be $m's repaid to SANFL, SANFL repay to Crows and Power and then they repay back to the AFL

[The Apostle]

I hope WESLO are gonna be on the ball at the suburban grounds this year.

North get to play at Alberton twice including the last minor round game this year. As we tend to pack the outer like no other club there it could be interesting!

I've written that date in my diary with a pen!

And as for the magpie on a stick myth, I can confirm that it definitely happened.

[Dirko]

The Glenelg Pres made a few brief comments about this, but the main point was that;

It is a vote on whether they should allow an AFL team and an SANFL to merge. Nothing more nothing less.

[eddie eagle]

Congrats to North Adelaide for snubbing any presentation from the magpie maggots. If only my club was so transparent. One hopes Port magpies die, the comp would be all the better for it.

[Booney]

The Glenelg Pres made a few brief comments about this, but the main point was that;

It is a vote on whether they should allow an AFL team and an SANFL to merge. Nothing more nothing less.

Well he's not on the money there. At no point are the "teams"to merge, only the admin.

It now appears as though the clubs will not vote and the Commission will be left to decide.....

[eaglehaslanded]

D-Day Has arrived for the Port Magpies. Which way will the vote go ? Only time will tell I guess. Contrary to popular belief I will be genuinely saddened if the Magpies have to fold but having said that the proposed merger should not be allowed to proceed. The Magpies should be made to fight this battle on their own. They got themselves into this mess that there in now it's time to stand up and fight, fight, fight. To quote chopper it's time to harden the f*** up.

[CUTTERMAN]

Whilst never underestimating Demitriou and the AFL, I doubt they would revoke the 2 licences from the SANFL, if they did try I'd be interested to see both Power and Crow's reaction to such a proposal. Surely both would see it as being detrimental to their own interests and the last blow to any sort of leverage the SANFL has in the bigger scheme of things, the question is could they see past their own interests and bottom lines.
Meanwhile, watching all of this would be a Murdoch, Packer etc, patiently watching from the shadows, talking to a few disgruntled clubs and waiting to pounce.
I for one would never go to another AFL game.

[TimmiesChin]

Whilst never underestimating Demitriou and the AFL, I doubt they would revoke the 2 licences from the SANFL, if they did try I'd be interested to see both Power and Crow's reaction to such a proposal. Surely both would see it as being detrimental to their own interests and the last blow to any sort of leverage the SANFL has in the bigger scheme of things, the question is could they see past their own interests and bottom lines.
Meanwhile, watching all of this would be a Murdoch, Packer etc, patiently watching from the shadows, talking to a few disgruntled clubs and waiting to pounce.
I for one would never go to another AFL game.

If the AFL pulled the licences from the SANFL and handed them directly to the clubs both clubs would be pants down - lap around the table they would be that far in front of their current position its not funny. Any lack of leverage would be far outweighed by the massive amount of revenue they would retrain rather than funding a nine team second tier comp.

[on the rails]

Whilst never underestimating Demitriou and the AFL, I doubt they would revoke the 2 licences from the SANFL, if they did try I'd be interested to see both Power and Crow's reaction to such a proposal. Surely both would see it as being detrimental to their own interests and the last blow to any sort of leverage the SANFL has in the bigger scheme of things, the question is could they see past their own interests and bottom lines.
Meanwhile, watching all of this would be a Murdoch, Packer etc, patiently watching from the shadows, talking to a few disgruntled clubs and waiting to pounce.
I for one would never go to another AFL game.

If the AFL pulled the licences from the SANFL and handed them directly to the clubs both clubs would be pants down - lap around the table they would be that far in front of their current position its not funny. Any lack of leverage would be far outweighed by the massive amount of revenue they would retrain rather than funding a nine team second tier comp.

good if that happens then the SANFL will really struggle and the Power funded Port Magpies can play against who?

[TimmiesChin]

Whilst never underestimating Demitriou and the AFL, I doubt they would revoke the 2 licences from the SANFL, if they did try I'd be interested to see both Power and Crow's reaction to such a proposal. Surely both would see it as being detrimental to their own interests and the last blow to any sort of leverage the SANFL has in the bigger scheme of things, the question is could they see past their own interests and bottom lines.
Meanwhile, watching all of this would be a Murdoch, Packer etc, patiently watching from the shadows, talking to a few disgruntled clubs and waiting to pounce.
I for one would never go to another AFL game.

If the AFL pulled the licences from the SANFL and handed them directly to the clubs both clubs would be pants down - lap around the table they would be that far in front of their current position its not funny. Any lack of leverage would be far outweighed by the massive amount of revenue they would retrain rather than funding a nine team second tier comp.

good if that happens then the SANFL will really struggle and the Power funded Port Magpies can play against who?

If that happens the AFL will fund the SANFL and its salary cap will be pulled back to a more realistic level, more in line with the revenue that it brings in.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I don't have any annual report in front of me, but what was the dividend to each club from the SANFL last year?

[brent]

where would the crows/power reserves teams play? the days of individual players in SANFL teams would obviously be over. maybe the VFL? would that still be of massive benefit to both teams? might as well relocate both teams to victoria. And then both teams would be charged enormous amounts of money (more than now) to use footy park, either that or they would have to assume the same reaming position for the SACA at adelaide oval anyway.

yes I agree it would be to massive detriment to the SANFL, which is then a massive detriment to junior development in this state which the AFL relies on. The AFL would have to directly inject money into the local comp if it was concerned.

Nobody in SA wins if the AFL takes the licenses away from the SANFL. Only the AFL wins.

[TimmiesChin]

I don't have any annual report in front of me, but what was the dividend to each club from the SANFL last year?

Think it was around the 300K mark from memory.

[Dirko]

The Glenelg Pres made a few brief comments about this, but the main point was that;

It is a vote on whether they should allow an AFL team and an SANFL to merge. Nothing more nothing less.

Well he's not on the money there. At no point are the "teams"to merge, only the admin.

It now appears as though the clubs will not vote and the Commission will be left to decide.....

A merger is a merger, be it on field/off field.

The point remains that is the only issue on hand. Do they allow an AFL club to merge (off field) with an SANFL Club.