AFL Reserves Discussion...

[on the rails]

Again, where's,the proof that it was confiscated UK? All I've read is a bunch of supposition and innuendo.

Then again, for the gullible likes of you, that's all that's required to feed your paranoia apparently.

The "gullible'' are you Port Magpie diehards who think the main owners of the PAFC give a F..k!

Seriously you call others "gullible" - time for a holiday at Glenside?

[Ian]

Again, where's,the proof that it was confiscated UK? All I've read is a bunch of supposition and innuendo.

Then again, for the gullible likes of you, that's all that's required to feed your paranoia apparently.

Are you on the board at Port? or a board members best mate?

There has to be something you're not telling us, most on here readily acknowledge our boards decision making is not always perfect and the clubs make mistakes from time to time, your glasses with one black and white lens and the other teal seem to give you a very distorted view of reality

....or are you just a puppet for someone else?

[Booney]

A Port supporter told me it was confiscated.

But nobody believes anything we say....

[CENTURION]

especially when you're on Methadone.

[BrekkyDJ]

Well... there could be room for another side (say, the Crows) to enter the VFL.

Bendigo Gold *could* be on the verge of folding...
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/sto ... ity/?cs=80

Front Page News
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[gossipgirl]

Well... there could be room for another side (say, the Crows) to enter the VFL.

Bendigo Gold *could* be on the verge of folding...
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/sto ... ity/?cs=80

Front Page News
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQX6GFxCIAE2YL4.jpg:large

maybe the bays could and maybe we could win a game

[Apachebulldog]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6688187002


Is tonight the night that the Commish destroy Port Adelaide and the SANFL ?????????

[UK Fan]

Nope just another proposal I believe. But if there is a vote port magpies and our sanfl will be fine.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Well... there could be room for another side (say, the Crows) to enter the VFL.

Bendigo Gold *could* be on the verge of folding...
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/sto ... ity/?cs=80

Front Page News
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQX6GFxCIAE2YL4.jpg:large

Already.

[Aerie]

I still don't understand the SANFL clubs insistence on using the Crows model and not allowing the Port model.

Effectively, all the Port model is doing is topping up their club with their own AFL players, which will make them stronger, and therefore a stronger competition.

The Crows model is going to bring in average players as fillers. It will be a rubbish team. It will make the SANFL weaker, and make a mockery of the competition.

I'd rather the Eagles beat, or lose to, a strong Port or Crows rather than a weak Port or Crows.

The Port model would have minimal effect on the actual competition. The Crows model will change everything.

[tipper]

I still don't understand the SANFL clubs insistence on using the Crows model and not allowing the Port model.

Effectively, all the Port model is doing is topping up their club with their own AFL players, which will make them stronger, and therefore a stronger competition.

The Crows model is going to bring in average players as fillers. It will be a rubbish team. It will make the SANFL weaker, and make a mockery of the competition.

I'd rather the Eagles beat, or lose to, a strong Port or Crows rather than a weak Port or Crows.

The Port model would have minimal effect on the actual competition. The Crows model will change everything.

id rather neither. they both make a mockery of our competition.

[Aerie]

I still don't understand the SANFL clubs insistence on using the Crows model and not allowing the Port model.

Effectively, all the Port model is doing is topping up their club with their own AFL players, which will make them stronger, and therefore a stronger competition.

The Crows model is going to bring in average players as fillers. It will be a rubbish team. It will make the SANFL weaker, and make a mockery of the competition.

I'd rather the Eagles beat, or lose to, a strong Port or Crows rather than a weak Port or Crows.

The Port model would have minimal effect on the actual competition. The Crows model will change everything.

id rather neither. they both make a mockery of our competition.

Yeah, same here.

[Jimmy]

I still don't understand the SANFL clubs insistence on using the Crows model and not allowing the Port model.

Effectively, all the Port model is doing is topping up their club with their own AFL players, which will make them stronger, and therefore a stronger competition.

The Crows model is going to bring in average players as fillers. It will be a rubbish team. It will make the SANFL weaker, and make a mockery of the competition.

I'd rather the Eagles beat, or lose to, a strong Port or Crows rather than a weak Port or Crows.

The Port model would have minimal effect on the actual competition. The Crows model will change everything.

id rather neither. they both make a mockery of our competition.

Yeah, same here.

x3

[Big Phil]

Media Release from the SANFL below:



Tuesday 30th July 2013
SANFL COMPETITION – MEDIA STATEMENT

The South Australian Football Commission has tonight formally presented a model by which the Adelaide and Port Adelaide football clubs could enter teams in the SANFL competition in 2014.

The Commission has endorsed a negotiated model which delivers financial benefits for the SANFL clubs while protecting the integrity of the competition and has proposed the model to the SANFL League Directors.

The League Directors agreed to present the model to their respective boards for consideration prior to reconvening to consider their response.

A summary of the model is as follows:
- One league team from the Adelaide Football Club enters the SANFL from 2014, forming a 10-team competition. The Port Adelaide Magpies become the second team of the Port Adelaide Football Club;
- The 2014 SANFL competition would become an 18-round home-and-away season with all clubs playing each other twice;
- Each of the nine existing SANFL clubs would have 10 home games – the Adelaide Football Club’s SANFL team would play all its games ‘away’;
- The AFL clubs would pay each SANFL club a guaranteed uplift per annum;
- The AFL clubs would work closely with the SANFL and clubs on game development throughout the community; and
- The AFL clubs’ SANFL teams would not wear the AFL club’s jumper, will not be called by the AFL club’s nickname and would carry no AFL club sponsorship partners.

Top up players required by the AFL clubs’ SANFL teams would be provided by the other SANFL clubs on an as-needs basis. These would be 18-22 year-old players not currently playing league football.

The model commits the AFL clubs to the SANFL for a minimum of 15 years with the SANFL to review annually.

“It is the Commission’s belief that the recommended model protects the integrity, the relevance, game development and club and competition viability,” SA Football Commission Chairman John Olsen said.

“It provides the SANFL and its clubs with certainty about the future of our competition while also providing the Adelaide and Port Adelaide football clubs the best competition outside of the AFL in which to test themselves.

“The alternative to this course of action exposes the SANFL to reduced corporate interest and reduced media coverage while also threatening the relevance of the competition as the best outside of the AFL.”

MODEL IN DETAIL

Listed players
All AFL listed players (including Rookie listed) to play with AFL support team should they not be in their AFL team.


Top Up players – leadership player
AFL clubs can contract one ‘leadership’ player per season.
28 years and over, must have been on AFC or PAFC respective lists.

Top Up players – other
18 – 22 years old, on an SANFL Club list.
Players selected at start of pre-season in conjunction with SANFL clubs.
AFL and SANFL clubs to review at agreed points throughout season.
Top-up players cannot play against their home SANFL club.
SANFL club has first rights to any top up player at League level during the minor round.

SANFL League Finals qualification
No qualification criteria for AFL listed players during the SANFL finals series when AFC/PAFC are still involved at AFL level.
Should AFC/PAFC not be involved in AFL finals, a player must have played the majority of his football at SANFL level, or 3 of the last 5 games at SANFL level to qualify.

Competition commitment
AFL clubs to commit to ‘playing to the line’.
Will not rest players and take up elective surgery options.
SANFL doctor to provide 2nd opinion on surgeries before end of season.
Will commit in writing to these points, to be in club and head coach charters.

Support Staff
AFL clubs to commit to not recruiting support staff directly from SANFL clubs.

Home Venue
AFC will not have a home venue; will play as away team throughout the minor round.


COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE

Licence Fee
AFL clubs to pay a licence fee to the SANFL for their involvement.

Membership
AFL clubs will not sell SANFL team membership.
SANFL to explore joint membership options with AFL clubs, including access to SANFL games.

Branding
AFC support team not to be branded Crows.
AFC support team not to wear Crows-style AFL guernsey in the SANFL.


Sponsorship
AFL clubs not to attract sponsors for their SANFL team.

Media
AFL clubs to generate interest in SANFL competition and other SANFL clubs through media activation, social media and online.


Community Engagement
AFL clubs to commit to working with SANFL clubs in promoting pathways to AFL Football.
In lead up to SANFL games, AFL clubs will help promote the game in tandem with the SANFL club within their promotional zone.

Commitment
AFL clubs to commit to the SANFL competition for 15 years, reviewed by the SANFL on a yearly basis.


COMPETITION STRUCTURE

SANFL Fixture
Focussed on maximising attendances for SANFL teams
25 week season from start to end; start date to be set once AFL fixture is known
18 minor round matches over 21 weeks
1 bye for State Game
2 split rounds
10 home matches per Club

Salary Cap
Reduced by $20,000 per SANFL club as acknowledgement of reduction in minor round matches.


South Australian National Football League Inc | AAMI Stadium - Turner Drive, West Lakes SA 5021
Phone: (08) 8268 2088 Fax: (08) 8424 2285 Website: www.sanfl.com.au

[smac]

**** off.

[dedja]

x 2

[PhilH]

No real mention of fate of Magpies or their zone besides becoming Power reserves side.

[heater31]

Salary cap reduction is the ultimate kick in the face. Clubs are going to have to recruit to cover the AFL players that they used to have

[CUTTERMAN]

$20,000 drop in salary cap?
What cover will Adelaide give to SANFL clubs when they're running at a loss when hosting Adelaide?
Could drive a bus through these stipulations.

[beenreal]

**** off.

Welcome to YOUR $ANFL Commission.