Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

[RustyCage]

Port can this year get any worse down at Alberton? I imagine Morningside are still laughing "they broke the cap and still couldnt beat us!"

As for Westies, over 10% over the cap, that ain't not admin error, especially from a club crying poor.

Ports breach was just stupidity, forgetting to lodge such important paperwork is inexcusable! At least the person responsible isn't at the club any more

[Jim05]

Whats the point of fining Port $50k, the other 8 clubs will end up footing the bill one way or another.

[Jim05]

Just get rid of the ******* thing. The comp survived for over 100 years without it.
The AFL can give us 30k for the Crows license, 2 bottle tops for Ports and then we can tell them to go and get ******.

Yep time to scrap the cap

[CENTURION]

Port can this year get any worse down at Alberton? I imagine Morningside are still laughing "they broke the cap and still couldnt beat us!"

As for Westies, over 10% over the cap, that ain't not admin error, especially from a club crying poor.

they went over the cap about the same amount as what got "stolen"

[holden78]

Whoops, I meant 30 mill for the Crows!

No you didn't , they're cheats!

[holden78]

You can't tell me if Norwood didn't have Campbell, McGinness, Newton and another player, all missing most of the season, that they would be inside the Cap! No way Jose it doesn't make any sense as those 3 at least are in their top 10 players.

[JK]

You can't tell me if Norwood didn't have Campbell, McGinness, Newton and another player, all missing most of the season, that they would be inside the Cap! No way Jose it doesn't make any sense as those 3 at least are in their top 10 players.

Campbell's absence was known before the season, so he wasn't included in the Cap .. If he had been, then Batsanis or Cachia wouldn't have come across.

With Eagleton's absence, Norwood were well under the cap.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I think it is pretty clear Norwood have done nothing wrong this year.

[Rik E Boy]

I think it is pretty clear Norwood have done nothing wrong this year.

Unless you barrack for Centrals.

regards,

REB

[stan]

Just get rid of the ******* thing. The comp survived for over 100 years without it.
The AFL can give us 30k for the Crows license, 2 bottle tops for Ports and then we can tell them to go and get ******.

Yep time to scrap the cap

Yep not working. might as well piss it off.

Sell Port back to the AFL for a goon bag and the crows for 40mil.

Then the sanfl dosent have to worry about either side. Especially the debt kings.

[Dogwatcher]

Oh, dear, Port.

Could this explain the length of time it took them to name their coach?

[Booney]

Difficult to take $15,000 worth of administration errors on the chin.

The $4000 or so in over payment is obviously not acceptable, but in all honesty I would image most clubs would ( if closely investigated ) have some small errors in the exact figures spent on player payments.

The $10,000 worth of reworked contracts not handed onto the SANFL means poor management and the error on allocating money to players not eligible for country zone payments is simply inexcusable.

[JK]

The $4000 or so in over payment is obviously not acceptable, but in all honesty I would image most clubs would ( if closely investigated ) have some small errors in the exact figures spent on player payments.

All clubs would be investigated to the same extent, and via the same structure.

Port's error does really sound like an unintentional admin error, and is a first offence I believe .. So whilst they probably need to still cop a punishment, you'd think there's scope to not throw the book at them.

[topsywaldron]

I think it is pretty clear Norwood have done nothing wrong this year.

Pretty sure you'll find we destroyed our great game with Bassett's anti-football style.

Or something.

[Squawk]

"$10,000 in previously contracted incentive payments scrapped as part of a club policy ahead of the 2012 season and not paid. Unfortunately, the club failed to lodge Amendment of Contract forms ahead of the 30 March deadline to advise the SANFL the payments would not be made. Accordingly, that $10,000 is deemed to have been paid and must be included in the club’s 2012 total player payments."

I do feel for Port on this one. The money wasn't actually paid out yet is counted as being paid out. It's hard to reconcile that it then forms part of "total player payments" when the payments weren't actually made. Actual payments vs forecast payments (that were scrapped)!

Notwithstanding, I'm still amazed that both West and Port
- knew very early on that they were headed to breach the cap
- advised the SANFL this would happen, well in advance of season's end

yet

- neither club seemingly did any restructuring of total player payments, AND
- the SANFL effectively allowed life to carry on as if nothing untoward was happening.

So the two clubs now have a 14 day "please explain" period. It sounds like all the explaining has been going on for most of the 2012 season. Will the SANFL have to explain why it apparently allowed the transgressions to unfold, in full knowledge it was going to?

[blueandwhite]

You can't tell me if Norwood didn't have Campbell, McGinness, Newton and another player, all missing most of the season, that they would be inside the Cap! No way Jose it doesn't make any sense as those 3 at least are in their top 10 players.

Campbell's absence was known before the season, so he wasn't included in the Cap .. If he had been, then Batsanis or Cachia wouldn't have come across.

With Eagleton's absence, Norwood were well under the cap.

So you are saying that Campbell,and McGuiness did not receive any payment at all from the club this year ;and that post newtons injury he received nothing as well?

[JK]

You can't tell me if Norwood didn't have Campbell, McGinness, Newton and another player, all missing most of the season, that they would be inside the Cap! No way Jose it doesn't make any sense as those 3 at least are in their top 10 players.

Campbell's absence was known before the season, so he wasn't included in the Cap .. If he had been, then Batsanis or Cachia wouldn't have come across.

With Eagleton's absence, Norwood were well under the cap.

So you are saying that Campbell,and McGuiness did not receive any payment at all from the club this year ;and that post newtons injury he received nothing as well?

Interesting interpretation!

My understanding is Campbell was employed as a coach (which is outside of the Cap) .. McGuiness and Newton would have received a %age of base, but no match payments for games they didn't play.

[StrayDog]

I think it is pretty clear Norwood have done nothing wrong this year.

Unless you barrack for Centrals.

regards,

REB

So long as you return "Tommy" in the same condition you found him, you chappies are okay by me ol' boy.

[CENTURION]

I think it is pretty clear Norwood have done nothing wrong this year.

Pretty sure you'll find we destroyed our great game with Bassett's anti-football style.

Or something.

so, you DO go to the footy!

[The Sleeping Giant]

I think it is pretty clear Norwood have done nothing wrong this year.

Pretty sure you'll find we destroyed our great game with Bassett's anti-football style.

Or something.

Stay on track topsy.