Proposed model for the Magpies - Power Joint Venture?

[Barto]

For starters, Sturt's income stream isn't at Unley Oval. A dingy pub would have (from day one when pokies became legal) provided more return than when we had them at Unley.

[am Bays]

the Magpies did not ask to be sent packing from Alberton, did not ask to lose local sponsors and thousand of members. I am not whingeing making this point, if you take the emotion out of it and think of your club being 'raped' in the same manner - you will see with an even mind it would make things damn hard.

X-Runna while I sympathise with yours and other passionate magpies supporters plight, spare me the 1996 woe-is-me crap. Just like Magpies/power supporters don't like others bringing up 1990, the fact remains you had over 12 months to prepare for the up-coming change for loss of sponsors, officials and resources to the AFL entity. In 1991 Glenelg lost all that too as it rationaised costs by playing home games at Footy park. Granted we still had our home training base but we only had from July 1990 to October 1990 to prepare for this new SANFL order. As an official of the Bays in 1990 I still recall all the sponsors, officials, players and rmembers we lost to the crows. We coped and we survived. Don't think you are anything special based on what happened from 1995-1997.

However rest assured based on my conversations with Bays hierachy 1990 will not be a factor in our decision, it will be what we feel is best for footy in this state.

[Booney]

I know one thing for sure. If the Magpies find themselves in a position at the end of 2010 that the doors close, I will never set foot in the ground of one of the other 8 clubs again.

Not because they may or may not have signed the death certificate of the Magpies ( I know I know our nest etc etc ) but because the SANFL comp will mean nothing to me, nothing.

Could I pick another team to follow? No way.

I think this will be the case for several thousand other Magpie fans who attend games during the year.

Big night tomorrow night.

[CUTTERMAN]

Let's say the merger goes ahead. Within 10 years the PAFC is doing extremely well financially so much so, the SANFL arm of the club, still seperate from the AFL club football wise, is now the richest and has the best facilities in the SANFL. The whole club is making money hand over fist due to the 2015 AFL GF win over Adelaide.
With this seemingly endless stream of funds and the other Sanfl clubs battling on their own is there ever going to be a cap as to how much dividend can go to the sanfl arm of the club.
That is of course made up but has some of the main points involved.
Does the new pafc return a dividend to the sanfl, if so what % of their profit, as all sanfl clubs own a % of the power is it right that portsanfl get more of a dividend?
Does adelaides dividend go to the pafcsanfl if so wouldn't this be doubling up?
What measures are in place to make this more equitable for all sanfl clubs in the future?

While I'd like to see the magpies survive I still think they have to sort themselves out as Sturt has done and is still trying to do. This is one of the first times in their history that port are severly struggling, and this is where the true character of a club is tested.

[beenreal]

Let's say the merger goes ahead. Within 10 years the PAFC is doing extremely well financially so much so, the SANFL arm of the club, still seperate from the AFL club football wise, is now the richest and has the best facilities in the SANFL. The whole club is making money hand over fist due to the 2015 AFL GF win over Adelaide.
With this seemingly endless stream of funds and the other Sanfl clubs battling on their own is there ever going to be a cap as to how much dividend can go to the sanfl arm of the club.
That is of course made up but has some of the main points involved.
Does the new pafc return a dividend to the sanfl, if so what % of their profit, as all sanfl clubs own a % of the power is it right that portsanfl get more of a dividend?
Does adelaides dividend go to the pafcsanfl if so wouldn't this be doubling up?
What measures are in place to make this more equitable for all sanfl clubs in the future?

While I'd like to see the magpies survive I still think they have to sort themselves out as Sturt has done and is still trying to do. This is one of the first times in their history that port are severly struggling, and this is where the true character of a club is tested.

Not true, there was a period in the early 80's when Port couldn't afford to pay it's players and many of them walked. Not to mention the dispute with the council in the 70's which saw them move to Adelaide Oval.

[Magpiespower]

Not true, there was a period in the early 80's when Port couldn't afford to pay it's players and many of them walked. Not to mention the dispute with the council in the 70's which saw them move to Adelaide Oval.

Almost shut-up shop in '83 and '85.

Bucky Cunningham was one who walked.

Was only 30 when he retired on the eve of the '84 season...

[Bunton]

Not true, there was a period in the early 80's when Port couldn't afford to pay it's players and many of them walked. Not to mention the dispute with the council in the 70's which saw them move to Adelaide Oval.

Almost shut-up shop in '83 and '85.

Bucky Cunningham was one who walked.

Was only 30 when he retired on the eve of the '84 season...

... and they survived without having assistance from an AFL club. Good on 'em. They'll need to do it again, or they can commence their Johnny Fahrnam farewell tour in a few weeks time after tomorrow night's unamimous decision.

[on the rails]

and they survived without having assistance from an AFL club. Good on 'em. They'll need to do it again, or they can commence their Johnny Fahrnam farewell tour in a few weeks time after tomorrow night's unamimous decision.

As Al from Happy Days would say - Yep, yep yep yep yep! Despite the crap sprouted by Rucci in the paper today the vote will be the other 8 clubs voting NO as it should be. The other interesting thing that may come from Ruccis two anti North articles will be how much he and the paper have to cough up in legal fees after inferring (1) North will be the cause of the magpies demise (2) Maniplulating the vote and (3) Trying to stack the SANFL Commission in Norths favour? What a load of shit from a pro port media person.

Now where are those arrogant Magpie toss pots who walked around Football Park in the finals during the 80's with a coffin draped in the colours of the other finalists? Maybe they are finsihing off the new B & W colour scheme?

[beenreal]

and they survived without having assistance from an AFL club. Good on 'em. They'll need to do it again, or they can commence their Johnny Fahrnam farewell tour in a few weeks time after tomorrow night's unamimous decision.

As Al from Happy Days would say - Yep, yep yep yep yep! Despite the crap sprouted by Rucci in the paper today the vote will be the other 8 clubs voting NO as it should be. The other interesting thing that may come from Ruccis two anti North articles will be how much he and the paper have to cough up in legal fees after inferring (1) North will be the cause of the magpies demise (2) Maniplulating the vote and (3) Trying to stack the SANFL Commission in Norths favour? What a load of **** from a pro port media person.

Now where are those arrogant Magpie toss pots who walked around Football Park in the finals during the 80's with a coffin draped in the colours of the other finalists? Maybe they are finsihing off the new B & W colour scheme?

It isn't defamation if it's true.

And carrying a coffin is a little more civilised than hanging a dead Magpie from a stick!

[on the rails]

It isn't defamation if it's true.

And carrying a coffin is a little more civilised than hanging a dead Magpie from a stick!

So you know it's true do you? ha ha Rucci wouldn't know if his arse was on fire if he poured the petrol on it and lit it himself. Was Rucci at the meeting last week of the 8 other club Presidents held at the business premises of the Glenelg FC President along with the SANFL Solicitor where the unanimous decision re the merger vote was agreed?

As for the dead magpie on stick another urban myth however how appropriate that would be this year though.

Anything else you Port lot would like to twist and deflect from before the vote?

[smac]

There are posters on this site who will be disappointed to learn that the magpie on a stick is a myth, after all the effort they went to ensuring the thing would actually stay on the stick.

[Hondo]

If the dead magpie on a stick is a myth then my memory is playing tricks on me!

[on the rails]

If the dead magpie on a stick is a myth then my memory is playing tricks on me!

That "supposedly" (incorrectly that's why they call it a myth ) occurred in the lead up to the 1979 finals match up between Centrals and Port! How old were you then and tell us what you saw?

[beenreal]

It isn't defamation if it's true.

And carrying a coffin is a little more civilised than hanging a dead Magpie from a stick!

So you know it's true do you? ha ha Rucci wouldn't know if his arse was on fire if he poured the petrol on it and lit it himself. Was Rucci at the meeting last week of the 8 other club Presidents held at the business premises of the Glenelg FC President along with the SANFL Solicitor where the unanimous decision re the merger vote was agreed?

As for the dead magpie on stick another urban myth however how appropriate that would be this year though.

Anything else you Port lot would like to twist and deflect from before the vote?

So Capel, Millbank and the other anti-Port stooges can write whatever they want and it's taken as gospel because that's what you want to read. But as soon as Rooch puts pen to paper, it's perceived as cr@p, simply because that's what you want to read.

And you would of course be referring to the candestine meeting held behind the back of the Magpies and the SANFL Commission? Because I thought only Port Adelaide did that sort of thing.

[Booney]

Yeah, who'd hold meetings behind the SANFL's back. Traitors...

[sjt]

I would have thought it was quite logical to have a meeting to discuss the impending vote. Quite often it's good to hear the views of others when forming an opinion, especially with something so important.

[on the rails]

And you would of course be referring to the candestine meeting held behind the back of the Magpies and the SANFL Commission? Because I thought only Port Adelaide did that sort of thing.

Ha ha Good one lets invite the Magpies to a joint clandestine meeting of the other clubs to discuss the vote. You seriously didnt think the other 8 clubs wouldnt meet to discuss one of the biggest decisions in SANFL history? Trouble is you Port people want everything on your terms with no regard for the other clubs which you of course have a very good track record of!

The so called port merger presentation, all 40 pages of it, was delivered to all clubs (even the pissant North Adelaide Club as most of you lot refer to them as) and despite the fact it changed, according to my mail, 4 times between the 8 presentations so you have to wonder why the rest of the league doesnt trust anything coming out of Alberton? All they need was one page to say that the Power are only interested in absorbing the Magpies so they can get a cheap pub that may or may not improve their financial state? You really think that they give a stuff about the magpies after they have been screwing you for years with returns from the existing port club?

[Go Legs]

Booney, they had to do that to make sure they all got the facts seeing as PANFC spoke to them all individually with a different story each time, goes to show you the other league clubs have long memories too. Trust Port Adelaide yeah like pigs can fly.

[beenreal]

And you would of course be referring to the candestine meeting held behind the back of the Magpies and the SANFL Commission? Because I thought only Port Adelaide did that sort of thing.

Ha ha Good one lets invite the Magpies to a joint clandestine meeting of the other clubs to discuss the vote. You seriously didnt think the other 8 clubs wouldnt meet to discuss one of the biggest decisions in SANFL history? Trouble is you Port people want everything on your terms with no regard for the other clubs which you of course have a very good track record of!

The so called port merger presentation, all 40 pages of it, was delivered to all clubs (even the pissant North Adelaide Club as most of you lot refer to them as) and despite the fact it changed, according to my mail, 4 times between the 8 presentations so you have to wonder why the rest of the league doesnt trust anything coming out of Alberton? All they need was one page to say that the Power are only interested in absorbing the Magpies so they can get a cheap pub that may or may not improve their financial state? You really think that they give a stuff about the magpies after they have been screwing you for years with returns from the existing port club?

That's right, as individual clubs raised valid points, the presentation was altered accordingly and then forwarded to the previous clubs. This situation when viewed without inherent paranoia, would be seen as a good thing.

As far as returns from the Port Club, who has the bigger Membership?

[Pseudo]

So Capel, Millbank and the other anti-Port stooges can write whatever they want and it's taken as gospel because that's what you want to read. But as soon as Rooch puts pen to paper, it's perceived as cr@p, simply because that's what you want to read.

Rooch's ability to produce cr@p every time he puts pen to paper has little to do with the fact that he's a sad little Port Power weasel, and everything to do with his (lack of) talent as a journalist. IMO, of course.