Port Magpies

[am Bays]

Every club got money for transfers, not just the PAM. The PAM had more players on the original list though.

Thats my point and the fact they had the seven fgure profit. No other club did.

Think I got Clayton mixed up with Tom Carr

[Macca19]

They were always going to have more players though. THeyd just won the past three flags and had 4 players make the Teal Cup AA side the year before.

Id say most of those players would have made the squad if say Glenelg or CD got in instead.

[bayman]

i donated to port $50.00 (was worth a lot more then than it is now) somewhere back in the mid 80's, only because i wanted them to survive as i wanted to see glenelg beat them in a day grand final.......however i will not be donating one red cent this time & that is because while i am as big as an elephant i also have a memory like one (1990 ring a bell ?)

[am Bays]

My point is where has the massive leg-up Port got with the transfer fees gone?

In 1997 the Magpies were in a poisiton to set them up for the future to dominate this competition with the $$$$ they had. Five years later they were rattling the cans.

Why should mediocre adminstration get rewarded?

Yes Port were in a position based on their results up to 1996 to get more players signed by the Power that I'm not fussed about as a SANFL fan, it is where the money has gone.

[am Bays]

i donated to port $50.00 (was worth a lot more then than it is now) somewhere back in the mid 80's, only because i wanted them to survive as i wanted to see glenelg beat them in a day grand final.......however i will not be donating one red cent this time & that is because while i am as big as an elephant i also have a memory like one (1990 ring a bell ?)

That's OK bayman I'm contemplating sending the Magpies an invoice for $125 (adjusted for inflation) for the honorium I wasn't paid following theit treachery in 1990, now that they have cash. My club had to make some massive changes in 2 months to ensure its survival.

If I get it I'll send you a pine-apple for your trouble....

[Macca19]

My point is where has the massive leg-up Port got with the transfer fees gone?

In 1997 the Magpies were in a poisiton to set them up for the future to dominate this competition with the $$$$ they had. Five years later they were rattling the cans.

Why should mediocre adminstration get rewarded?

Yes Port were in a position based on their results up to 1996 to get more players signed by the Power that I'm not fussed about as a SANFL fan, it is where the money has gone.

Why are/were West in trouble considering the large number of AFL draftees (more than any other state league club I believe) that have come from their club in the past 8-10 years?

I agree that previous administrations have made some poor decisions re: finances and purchases, playing lists/recruits but draftee money only goes so far. They may have recieved a lot of money at the time for AFL transfers, but I think you can counteract that with the fact that at the same time they had next to zero income from the Port club (which they had in the past) and had next to no facilities as well, with the majority of the physical assets going into the AFL with the PAFC. Whilst Rucci may have bragged about this and that....it is Rucci

[Gravel]

I think you will find the $1.0m was put into the hotel purchase. From the annual report the net assets last year were $800k after a $240k loss. Hotel $2.8m.

[Dutchy]

I think you will find the $1.0m was put into the hotel purchase. From the annual report the net assets last year were $800k after a $240k loss. Hotel $2.8m.

Good chance that $1m is gone as I believe hotels have dropped in value of late

[sjt]

I think it could work if all interstate draftees went to the Magpies, with local draftees staying at their original club.

There's nothing wrong with this proposal that I can see.

Agreed, I reckon rewarding incompetence is the way forward for footy in SA.

Agreed. As mentioned previously the mini draft is an attempt to create some equality in the SANFL. Hence draft selections in reverse ladder final positions. Port will already be rewarded for their crappy on field performance, they shouldn't be rewarded for their poor off field performance as well.
What if there was 3 interstate recruits each year. After a few years they wouldn't have to pay any players on their list under the salary cap (exaggeration maybe).
They've already previously "snipped" players from other clubs that had been picked up in the mini draft, under the guise it would further their careers playing for the Magpies than their original designated SANFL team.
Getting a bit peeved by all this. They have strong sponsors and strong membership. Rectify what they might be receiving from the Power on game day, that seems a key problem according to the knowledgeable Port supporters on this site.
Get on with it, work through it! But do it fairly, not to the detriment of clubs that are doing things "right" via their own hard work.
Someone please give me some examples when Port over their history have ever demonstrated by a deed, something to strengthen/assist another SANFL club.
Their success has probably been partly borne by their selfishness and determination to do everything with their own self interest at the forefront. Not a criticism, just an observation.
Geez a decade of not making a GF, boo hoo.

[Booney]

I have ben reading this forum with interest. However I admit I am a Die Hard Bruce Webber hating One-Eyed Glenelg Supporter.

Bruce may have played a small part in 97/98 for your beloved Crows. Does that change how you feel about him?

[Wedgie]

I have ben reading this forum with interest. However I admit I am a Die Hard Bruce Webber hating One-Eyed Glenelg Supporter.

Bruce may have played a small part in 97/98 for your beloved Crows. Does that change how you feel about him?

Even more reason to despise the man!

[Booney]

I was asking 85 was a long time ago.

[Pseudo]

I have ben reading this forum with interest. However I admit I am a Die Hard Bruce Webber hating One-Eyed Glenelg Supporter.

Bruce may have played a small part in 97/98 for your beloved Crows. Does that change how you feel about him?

Judas Iscariot played a small part in Jesus' Greatest Parlour Trick, but you won't find many Xians who hold him in any respect.

One might also suggest that without Weber's interference then the Crows would have arrived anyway, but a few years later - and with a unified SANFL behind it, having had years to prepare, rather than a few months. And without paying the Vics several million dollars for the "privelige", too.

Seriously Booney, quit blowing the "Crows fans owe Port for their existence" trumpet. Only so many straws can be clutched at when trying to defend what Port did in 1990.

[Booney]

Seriously Booney, quit blowing the "Crows fans owe Port for their existence" trumpet. Only so many straws can be clutched at when trying to defend what Port did in 1990.

Not sure I "blow that trumpet" too often, I know I have but it is not my aim to use it as a defence mechanism for what Port ( not I ) did in 1990.

I know, as well as anyone, that the actions of 1990 changed football here forever, but how long do people carry a grudge around for?

What we have now, is what we have, regardless of who is or isn't to blame. Time to move forward IMO instead of looking back. Indeed that's what see's my Magpie's in the position we are in now, too much looking back and not enough looking forward.

[gossipgirl]

around 50 years is acceptable period for grudge to end

[Psyber]

Judas Iscariot played a small part in Jesus' Greatest Parlour Trick, but you won't find many Xians who hold him in any respect.

However, there are those who say he was acting reluctantly and at Jesus' urging to bring about the result that was God's will.
There is also a Gospel of Judas removed from the Bible, but found in some editions of the Apochrypha - the Aprochrypha is interesting reading..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha# ... _apocrypha

[Booney]

Judas Iscariot played a small part in Jesus' Greatest Parlour Trick, but you won't find many Xians who hold him in any respect.

However, there are those who say he was acting reluctantly and at Jesus' urging to bring about the result that was God's will.
There is also a Gospel of Judas removed from the Bible, but found in some editions of the Apochrypha - the Aprochrypha is interesting reading..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha# ... _apocrypha

Sure it is. I'm sure it is.

I thought the thread was off topic before..

[am Bays]

Sure it is. I'm sure it is.

I thought the thread was off topic before..

Isn't God just another name for Russell Ebert to you Port blokes Booney?

Therefore if Jesus was just doing Russell's work/will

Ergo, Judas (Webber) was going against God's (Russell's) will

There thread back on track...

[Booney]

Sure it is. I'm sure it is.

I thought the thread was off topic before..

Isn't God just another name for Russell Ebert to you Port blokes Booney?

Therefore if Jesus was just doing Russell's work/will

Ergo, Judas (Webber) was going against God's (Russell's) will

There thread back on track...

Not just Port people mate, not just Port people.

[Psyber]

Sorry Booney, I have a wide range of interests, and tend to dash after interesting side-issues.
I thought it wasn't totally off the edge as this thread is about Port's possible, though difficult, salvation...