Rd 20 2007 Eagles v North

[Aerie]

J Stewart just come up through the juniors, probably still eligible for U/19's. Not sure if he's Paul's brother.

FWIW would Paul Stewart be a better choice than Schwarze? From what I've seen, Schwarze seems inconsistent and sometimes thinks it should be easier because he's been an AFL player. Perhaps those who've sen more games than me this year can comment?

Paul Stewart has been injured flyinghigh and has been in and out of the two's.
Schwarze has settled in at FF but with passador back as well as kenny mac Schwarze struggled to find his feet yesterday.

Some fans think either stapples prentenko or even daveron may be smokies this year

Exactly. He was part of a different Eagles forward set up and seemed to struggle a bit to adjust. Although, he had a similarly disappointing game against Central, he has been excellent in other games.

I don't think James Stewart is a relation to Paul. Stewy is a local product and has had to bide his time in the reserves for a number of years. I think he is 21-22 years old, so has some experience. Has made a real impact with his reading of the play and good use of the ball and body out of a back pocket. This has also allowed Fairclough to be used in a more attacking role which has benefited the team greatly. He seems to be one of those who plays better with better players around him and has easily stepped in to league level.

[Mickyj]

Yeah, I know P Stewart has been injured, but has strung a few games together in the two's now, hasn't he?

Petrenko would be a good one - we always seem to lack a player who can burst over a line with leg speed, esp since Stokes got drafted, and the top three sides all seem to look more dangerous than us because of leg speed.

Umm no Flyinghigh p Stewart came back then went missing for two weeks.Yesterday was his first game back.
Batsanis is another one who has been gone since the Centrals game.

[Mickyj]

J Stewart just come up through the juniors, probably still eligible for U/19's. Not sure if he's Paul's brother.

FWIW would Paul Stewart be a better choice than Schwarze? From what I've seen, Schwarze seems inconsistent and sometimes thinks it should be easier because he's been an AFL player. Perhaps those who've sen more games than me this year can comment?

Paul Stewart has been injured flyinghigh and has been in and out of the two's.
Schwarze has settled in at FF but with passador back as well as kenny mac Schwarze struggled to find his feet yesterday.

Some fans think either stapples prentenko or even daveron may be smokies this year

Exactly. He was part of a different Eagles forward set up and seemed to struggle a bit to adjust. Although, he had a similarly disappointing game against Central, he has been excellent in other games.

I don't think James Stewart is a relation to Paul. Stewy is a local product and has had to bide his time in the reserves for a number of years. I think he is 21-22 years old, so has some experience. Has made a real impact with his reading of the play and good use of the ball and body out of a back pocket. This has also allowed Fairclough to be used in a more attacking role which has benefited the team greatly. He seems to be one of those who plays better with better players around him and has easily stepped in to league level.

We spoke about Schwarze at Elizabeth Aerie and he seems to have struggled against Port,Centrals and North.While he got woken up by a blues player and kicked 5.
One of my Co workers was telling me Fairclough and Prenteko were plaid as onballers/centremen in the state U 18 teams.Perhaps this is a vision of things to come down at Woodville Oval .

[eddie-eagle]

Plays like Fergus Watts eh? So he plays one good game then goes missing never to be seen of again? I think Grocke has been okay for the Eagles personally.

plenty of good games Fergal Sharkey too. 10 goals in a final hasn't been done that often at all.

he also kicked the goal of the year* from the scoreboard pocket at woodville vs north the same year. Award judged by Wedgie

[eddie-eagle]

My View on the game and the reasons why North didn't get over the line

3rd Quarter

1 minute mark North go missing

2 minute mark North Still Missing

3 Minute mark North Still Missing

7 Minute mark Announcement over PA System - If Anyone has seen Chris,Josh,Clint,Brett,Ian..... they are wearing red and white football tops , please come to the main grandstand, their parents and supporters are concerned as they have not been seen since half time

15 Minute Mark - Police Dog Squad arranged for the search of Woodville Oval , Parents are beside themselves.


3/4 time Kids are still missing but there is a rumour they have just been sighted on the oval and are tucking into some oranges

BANG!!! the key difference, need to replace third quarter with premiership quarter.

[eddie-eagle]

One thing from this game I thought was the example of how the mini-draft has helped even up the competition. The former struggling club was able to pick up the likes of White, Perrie and Lonie and all contributed well for them today now they have moved up the ladder. Evened up the match for sure.

GOLD

The mini draft has been offset though by high priced dud recruits like O'hara

[eddie-eagle]

yet, very few posts have dealt with the problems north can control, like how they let a lead slip like that??

That's a good point Jimmy, some have on here and The Roost but those posts are definately in the minority.
As my hangover and anger clears I'll try to analyse other aspects of the game.

I'll start with the ruck as the ruck contests between North and Eagles always intrigue me with O'Hara being an ex Eagle.
It was damn close contest with North just managing to keep their 2007 undefeated hitouts versus the competition in tact (31 - 29).

But just analyising the ruckmen its intriguing as to how close their stats were as it was a great battle:

Wakelin & O'Hara 27 hitouts
Lindsay & Dabrowski 27 hitouts

Wakelin & O'Hara 15 possessions
Lindsay & Dabrowski 7 possessions

Wakelin & O'Hara 5 marks
Lindsay & Dabrowski 1 mark

Wakelin & O'Hara 2 tackles
Linday & Dabrowski 3 tackles

PS Aerie, instead of making ridiculously generalistic sweeping statements feel free to address the actual content of posts and explain where in your opinion they were wrong. Cheers.

PPS You'd be just about the only Eagles fan I haven't met yet, got an interesting assessment of you from a fellow Eagles fan yesterday though.

Wedgie you have not met me yet either. I'd love to collect my pint from the Luke Toia vs Luke Peel bet on stats we had when they played in the same game.

[FlyingHigh]

Yeah, you're right Aerie, J Stewart is around that age. Fitzgrald is another young player whose debuted this year - was probably confusing them.

[eaglehaslanded]

You haven't met me either Wedgie!! not that I can get to too many games at the moment.

Finals will be interesting. I can't see the Eagles beating Centrals, but I can see Sturt and North doing so (not because they've done it during the minor round), but can't really see these two beating the Eagles when it's all on the line.

Question of interest - is Guidfreffa injured or has he quit the club, because there was a P Guidreffa in the div 2 amatuers inn todays paper.

Must be a different Giuffreda because Patrick played in the 2's for us yesterday.

[spell_check]

15.52 mark, Perrie takes a mark 60 metres out, the Eagles Hier runs over the mark by 5 to 10 metres (commentators even made mention) no 25 m penalty, no goal from resultant play.

5 to 10 metres? I think you're telling porkies. That was right in front of me and was no different to tactics used throughout the year, which I have mentioned previously. I think the umpires need to get more strict on it, but that's how things have gone right throughout the year.

I recall a 25 metre penalty being given away in the 2nd quarter I think. The North player took a mark, and went back to take his kick. No one was on the mark at that instant, but an Eagles player came to where the mark was and stood there. Immediately a 25 metre penatly was called.

But I guess it doesn't matter about that because it was in the defensive half of the ground for North.

[Mickyj]

Have been thinking about yesterday's game while watching the crows.
One thing springs to mind the player on peddler number 7 or 2 can't remember which was trying to run up the ground and be a lose player in defence.Peddler never let him in fact Peddler was almost an extra forward and would have had a goal except an umpire brought the ball back.
thumbs up to Peddler .

[spell_check]

Have been thinking about yesterday's game while watching the crows.
One thing springs to mind the player on peddler number 7 or 2 can't remember which was trying to run up the ground and be a lose player in defence.Peddler never let him in fact Peddler was almost an extra forward and would have had a goal except an umpire brought the ball back.
thumbs up to Peddler .

Yeah, I saw that! I thought, gee what's Pedler doing down there!

[goraw]

I think that the last 7 minutes after North hit the front shows where we are at as a team. Never gave up, and that's all you can ask for as a supporter.

You would have to say that match was a fantastic advertisement for the SANFL, being on TV. Both teams had the upper hand during the match, and overall the brand of footy shown by both sides today (contested, tough football) is a trademark of the best league outside the AFL. I thought that North were slightly better at the clearances and when they got the ball moving in the open, but I reakon our pressure when the ball was in play, in close (not at a stoppage), probably won that department overall.

I like to single out a piece of the action during the match, and this brought about our 14th goal, and the goal in effect, won the match as North kicked another afterwards to bring the gap back to three points. I can't remember who the North player was, but he took a long time to get rid of the ball from a mark. I think Passador knew that his time had ran out before play on was called, so he started to sprint to get there. Play on was called, and Passador laid the tackle, Fairclough picked the ball up and goaled. A classic definition of the term "footy smarts".

Also, if you are to win a match of football, you don't need someone like Josh Coulter to give away a goal like what he did in the third. A close match can be decided on who is the more disciplined team, and it only takes one player to cost a goal like Coulter did. I wouldn't be placing the loss squarely on an Eagles player if that was the other way around (and the result), but you don't need a player to give away a goal like that in a close match.

me2.that decision where shuey got pinged holding the ball will rot in my head for years.just after we hit the front,with momentum,he grabs the ball instantaniously grabbed and the f**** head of an so called umpire pauses,obv thinks im on stage here ill be the star ,holding the ball i dont make it a habit of bagging those ******* ***** but ffs gifted the eagles a goal that was never there.and that was the worst 1 of many that the eagles got today.we were robbed all day.any eagles brave enough to say they were gifted the game?watch the replay and u will see my point.sanlf umpires at woodville today GO AND GET ****** U ROBBING SONS OF BITCHES.

<editted by Wedgie with lots of swear words replaced by ****s, settle down GR!! PS It was Sporn that got caught holding the ball>

I think that you need to have a good hard look at the replay again goraw. Yes the eagles got a grand total of 3 kicks more than you all day. I think you need to take a look at some of your players like coulter only he can blamed for his indescretion. I thought the umpires called it straight down the line yesterday of course there were maybe a couple of dodgy's but they even went both ways. I think it's harsh to say the Eagles were gifted the game. We grinded the game out better than you and we deserved the win. It's unfair for you to not give us any credit and then blame the umpires and say that was the direct reason you lost the game. Look forward to seeing you in september when we end another rooters finals campaign.

u dont honestly believe that do u?if u do well lmfao.classic.

[BPBRB]

One thing from this game I thought was the example of how the mini-draft has helped even up the competition. The former struggling club was able to pick up the likes of White, Perrie and Lonie and all contributed well for them today now they have moved up the ladder. Evened up the match for sure.

So without those players we would have got beaten by more? We didn't have them last week against Centrals so how do you explain that?

[woodwt]

Spelly, the point is about the home crowd that despite only about 500 Eagles fans rocking up, I rock up early and don't get a donut!!!!

1000 donuts my arse!

Wedgie
My Daughter and myself got to the game at half time of the ressies, came in throught the gates at the scoreboard end and very given donut vouchers. Had plenty still when we got ours.
Yum.

[ferret]

Wedgie - strongly disagree with your statement that Kenny Mc more than made up for Grocke's absence and your insistance that most people would agree.

Ask Eagle supporters about Kenny's contributions when he has come back to play for the Eagles. Most would say that he has never given enough. The playing styles of both are completely different and seeing that Grocke has played the last 39 games in a row for the Eagles at CHF it throws the game plan out a bit. Grocke is fitter and aerobically far superior to Kenny. Grocke plays in a two acre paddock where as Kenny plays in a quarter acre house block. Grocke's ability to run all day and be our main lead up player is essential to the game plan. The Eagles are not a great running team so Grockes run is very important to the team. Grocke would get to more contests than Kenny, his chases are better and where he comes into his own is in the last quarter when his pace and ability to keep running destroys his opponents.
Also with Grocke's absence this prevented Kenny being used as a tall back.
If NA still wants to play M. Wundke in the reserves I'm sure the Eagles could find a spot for him in the league team.
I know that you will mention NA had to fit in Perrie and White in their forward area but your comment about Kenny vs Grocke is wrong.

[Mickyj]

Wedgie - strongly disagree with your statement that Kenny Mc more than made up for Grocke's absence and your insistance that most people would agree.

Ask Eagle supporters about Kenny's contributions when he has come back to play for the Eagles. Most would say that he has never given enough. The playing styles of both are completely different and seeing that Grocke has played the last 39 games in a row for the Eagles at CHF it throws the game plan out a bit. Grocke is fitter and aerobically far superior to Kenny. Grocke plays in a two acre paddock where as Kenny plays in a quarter acre house block. Grocke's ability to run all day and be our main lead up player is essential to the game plan. The Eagles are not a great running team so Grockes run is very important to the team. Grocke would get to more contests than Kenny, his chases are better and where he comes into his own is in the last quarter when his pace and ability to keep running destroys his opponents.
Also with Grocke's absence this prevented Kenny being used as a tall back.
If NA still wants to play M. Wundke in the reserves I'm sure the Eagles could find a spot for him in the league team.
I know that you will mention NA had to fit in Perrie and White in their forward area but your comment about Kenny vs Grocke is wrong.

Thank you Ferret you explained that way better than I did.

[Aerie]

Wedgie - strongly disagree with your statement that Kenny Mc more than made up for Grocke's absence and your insistance that most people would agree.

Ask Eagle supporters about Kenny's contributions when he has come back to play for the Eagles. Most would say that he has never given enough. The playing styles of both are completely different and seeing that Grocke has played the last 39 games in a row for the Eagles at CHF it throws the game plan out a bit. Grocke is fitter and aerobically far superior to Kenny. Grocke plays in a two acre paddock where as Kenny plays in a quarter acre house block. Grocke's ability to run all day and be our main lead up player is essential to the game plan. The Eagles are not a great running team so Grockes run is very important to the team. Grocke would get to more contests than Kenny, his chases are better and where he comes into his own is in the last quarter when his pace and ability to keep running destroys his opponents.
Also with Grocke's absence this prevented Kenny being used as a tall back.
If NA still wants to play M. Wundke in the reserves I'm sure the Eagles could find a spot for him in the league team.
I know that you will mention NA had to fit in Perrie and White in their forward area but your comment about Kenny vs Grocke is wrong.

Thank you Ferret you explained that way better than I did.

I agree with both of you 100%. Well said.

[eddie-eagle]

I like the North fans optimism.

They look forward to the next meeting, and according to wedgie are going to SH1T all over us next time we meet, yes, this is a quote.

Funny thing is they have been repeating they will beat us "next time" for a while. If they keep saying it eventually they might be right.

The more I think about the inclusions North had, the mre I am happy with our narrow win. I also take it that North are supremely confident that they will beat sturt in the last round to hang on to third spot.

[Wedgie]

They look forward to the next meeting, and according to wedgie are going to SH1T all over us next time we meet, yes, this is a quote.

All the posts on this site and you still have to trawl through other fan forums to get a quote?

On a North fan forum I said after a 3 point loss on another team's ground when IMHO we had a poor end of the umpiring stick and missed our best player in big matches that I thought we'd win comfortably in our next meeting like we did early in the year?

Christ, shoot me!

I'll go back to the Roost and change my message to say I think we'll get thumped next meeting and there's no use in any North supporters turning up.

Why don't you get off your arse and create an Eagles forum instead of spending your time taking down each quote on other fan forums?

And for the record, Yes I do think we'll beat the Eagles comfortably next time, and Yes I am looking forward to the next meeting of the clubs, why do you have an issue with this?

Do you think the Eagles will lose next time they play North and you don't look forward to the next Eagles v North match?

I think we'll beat Sturt and I think we'll beat Glenelg, Im actually more confident after Saturday's game than I was before.