Salary Cap Issues - Norwood, West & Port

[JK]

the statement from the SANFL says a fine but doesnt say anything about a recruiting ban. Just wondering in relation to that. Did Norwood "own up" then?

Norwood did 'own up'.
It seems West and Port also "owned up".

Has the SANFL ever actually caught a club out, by itself?

They know, and throughout the year generally liase with the clubs to let them know how they're tracking.

If the clubs didn't "own up" they would have been caught out anyway.

[MatteeG]

Just get rid of the ******* thing. The comp survived for over 100 years without it.
The AFL can give us 30k for the Crows license, 2 bottle tops for Ports and then we can tell them to go and get ******.

This.

[Squawk]

the statement from the SANFL says a fine but doesnt say anything about a recruiting ban. Just wondering in relation to that. Did Norwood "own up" then?

Norwood did 'own up'.
It seems West and Port also "owned up".

Has the SANFL ever actually caught a club out, by itself?

They know, and throughout the year generally liase with the clubs to let them know how they're tracking.

If the clubs didn't "own up" they would have been caught out anyway.

Official payments are clear cut cases. Like the West situation where they made incorrect base assumptions. I'm talking about the SANFL identifying any third party irregularities, or a brown paper bag type scenario.

[JK]

the statement from the SANFL says a fine but doesnt say anything about a recruiting ban. Just wondering in relation to that. Did Norwood "own up" then?

Norwood did 'own up'.
It seems West and Port also "owned up".

Has the SANFL ever actually caught a club out, by itself?

They know, and throughout the year generally liase with the clubs to let them know how they're tracking.

If the clubs didn't "own up" they would have been caught out anyway.

Official payments are clear cut cases. Like the West situation where they made incorrect base assumptions. I'm talking about the SANFL identifying any third party irregularities, or a brown paper bag type scenario.

Unless a player outs their club, I don't know that the SANFL has any means to find any under the table cash payments.

[JK]

Might have to tune in and see what Mr Dittmar has to say about this latest revelation.

[UK Fan]

Mark my words this issue is not over for norwood yet. Might also be another club exposed very shortly.

Doh if Bunton thinks Norwood are still in trouble. Im convinced Norwood will be safe.

[topsywaldron]

What kind of reception do you think you'll get next time you work in a media capacity at Norwood Oval BP?

I think your pushing of the 'alleged rumour' may have been noticed!

We'll see I guess.

How is that any different to your pushing of Centrals 'alleged' use of brown paper bags?

I'm not dependent on the clubs or the competition for media accreditation, seats in the grandstand or access to players and coaches for interviews to be able to do my job.

That's how.

[cennals05]

What kind of reception do you think you'll get next time you work in a media capacity at Norwood Oval BP?

I think your pushing of the 'alleged rumour' may have been noticed!

We'll see I guess.

How is that any different to your pushing of Centrals 'alleged' use of brown paper bags?

I'm not dependent on the clubs or the competition for media accreditation, seats in the grandstand or access to players and coaches for interviews to be able to do my job.

That's how.

Talk about trying to create something out of nothing. This post shows just how little you know about how media and the SANFL work.

[topsywaldron]

Talk about trying to create something out of nothing.

We're thirteen pages deep into a thread about blatantly mistepresented accusations of Norwood cheating and I wonder if you're being deliberately or unintentionally ironic here?

[leftlegger]

Just get rid of the ******* thing. The comp survived for over 100 years without it.
The AFL can give us 30k for the Crows license, 2 bottle tops for Ports and then we can tell them to go and get ******.

This.

Yep! That.

[The Sleeping Giant]

What kind of reception do you think you'll get next time you work in a media capacity at Norwood Oval BP?

I think your pushing of the 'alleged rumour' may have been noticed!

We'll see I guess.

How is that any different to your pushing of Centrals 'alleged' use of brown paper bags?

I'm not dependent on the clubs or the competition for media accreditation, seats in the grandstand or access to players and coaches for interviews to be able to do my job.

That's how.

This post shows just how little you know about how media and the SANFL work.

Lol. What makes you an expert?

[Pseudo]

The way people were carrying on I thought West had gone over the cap by $100,00

Still not good, thats an ordinary 'accountancy" mistake.

Which firm handles West's accounting?

[dedja]

[PhilH]

I think South in 2005/6 were caught out, past player spilt the beans.


This update from the Magpies

MAGPIES SALARY CAP INVESTIGATION: 27 November 2012

The Port Adelaide Football Club is cooperating with an investigation that has led to the Magpies being charged with exceeding the SANFL salary cap by $19,877 in 2012.

A routine end-of-season review of Magpies player payments revealed unintentional administrative errors that led it to breach the annual limit, which the club brought to the attention of the SANFL.

The club has worked with SANFL officials throughout the investigation and apologises for the accidental mistakes which have led to its first SANFL salary cap charges.

An examination of all contracts and actual payments revealed:

· The Magpies paid $364,887 to players in 2012 - $4,887 over the $360,000 salary cap. This is an over-run traditionally adjudged technical by the SANFL and punishable by a dollar-for-dollar fine.

· $10,000 in previously contracted incentive payments scrapped as part of a club policy ahead of the 2012 season and not paid. Unfortunately, the club failed to lodge Amendment of Contract forms ahead of the 30 March deadline to advise the SANFL the payments would not be made. Accordingly, that $10,000 is deemed to have been paid and must be included in the club’s 2012 total player payments.

· $5,000 in salary cap-exempt Zone Allowance payments inadvertently allocated to ineligible players not from the Magpies country zone. Accordingly, that $5000 must be included in the club’s 2012 total player payments.



Combined, the reckoned payments take the club’s total player payments in 2012 to $379,887, $19,877 over the salary cap and subject to greater sanction from the SA Football Commission.



Magpies general manager Brian Leys said the mistakes were embarrassing, but stressed the club had lodged all player payments and contracts openly and in good faith with the SANFL at the outset of the season.



“The club declared all of its payment details as required, but unfortunately we had some accidental allocation errors and simple paperwork mistakes that weren’t detected by reviews during the season and only came to light at the end of the year,” Leys said.



The errors were made ahead of the SANFL’s 30 March lodgement deadline, at a time when the Magpies were transitioning through a change of management and getting the season underway.



The club has always intended to abide by all rules and strongly upholds the importance of maintaining a clear understanding of the regulations to avoid mistakes.



It has learnt from its errors and is already implementing new player contract protocols and internal checks ahead of the 2013 SANFL season.



The SANFL advised Port Adelaide of the charges today and has given the club 14 days to formally respond before the sanction is imposed.



It is important to note that Magpies player payment arrangements are administered separately to those of Port Adelaide’s AFL players.



Brian Leys
General Manager
Port Adelaide Football Club SANFL Division

[Wedgie]

Whoops, I meant 30 mill for the Crows!

[Trent Plucktrum]

The way people were carrying on I thought West had gone over the cap by $100,00

Still not good, thats an ordinary 'accountancy" mistake.

Which firm handles West's accounting?

Oh Dear !!

[dedja]

Whoops, I meant 30 mill for the Crows!

Not sure that Port are worth the 2nd bottle top either ...

[The Sleeping Giant]

Whoops, I meant 30 mill for the Crows!

30k sounds about right atm.

[topsywaldron]

It is important to note that Magpies player payment arrangements are administered separately to those of Port Adelaide’s AFL players.

[Dutchy]

Port can this year get any worse down at Alberton? I imagine Morningside are still laughing "they broke the cap and still couldnt beat us!"

As for Westies, over 10% over the cap, that ain't not admin error, especially from a club crying poor.