Magarey Medal 2011

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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby wildcat » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:45 am

Change the name to 'The Peter Mead Medal' and change Allan's name to Ebert :twisted:
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby SANFLnut » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:56 am

Congrats to Jimmy Allan good effort in anyone's books. My problem with him winning is that if other players in the comp were given a similar role then they would actually be far more damaging. Nathan Eagleton, Jade Sheedy, James Ezard all cop a hard tag to shut them down while many SANFL coaches are happy to let Allan accumulate other people's kicks and take him on head to head. They would only do that if they felt their team gets an advantage by doing so. I have also not seen Allan play a defensive role at all anytime I have seen him play. While he is getting 35 touches, what is his direct opponent getting? Were there games where he had 35 touches, conceded 30 to his opponent, collected 3 votes and lost? If Paul Thomas or Mark Mckenzie played midfield all year they would win the medal over Allan. Each of these leaders are used in other roles to the betterment of their teams. Not Allans fault and the others are having more team success, however it does make the award a bit lopsided.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby on the rails » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:48 am

SANFLnut wrote:Congrats to Jimmy Allan good effort in anyone's books. My problem with him winning is that if other players in the comp were given a similar role then they would actually be far more damaging. Nathan Eagleton, Jade Sheedy, James Ezard all cop a hard tag to shut them down while many SANFL coaches are happy to let Allan accumulate other people's kicks and take him on head to head. They would only do that if they felt their team gets an advantage by doing so. I have also not seen Allan play a defensive role at all anytime I have seen him play. While he is getting 35 touches, what is his direct opponent getting? Were there games where he had 35 touches, conceded 30 to his opponent, collected 3 votes and lost? If Paul Thomas or Mark Mckenzie played midfield all year they would win the medal over Allan. Each of these leaders are used in other roles to the betterment of their teams. Not Allans fault and the others are having more team success, however it does make the award a bit lopsided.


Another post full of inaccurate assumptions. Allan gets tagged almost every week but his ability to shake off his tag, his ball getting ability in the bucket loads after positioning himself to get it plus his ability to break tackles and evade especially close in is why he has won a third and why he is the best player in the comp.

His direct opponent would be the opposing centreman - hardly think that is who his tag is so of course his direct opponents and himself play wide. Look for other opposition players to tag him e.g. Gallman "tags" on ballers / opposition danger men for North but Allan plays centre, often Gallman starts outside the square and moves in at the bounce to pick up his tag. Maybe you should watch the North game more closely and watch the set ups and how Allan gut runs all game to get his stats. As for a defensive game go and look at his stats for clearances out of the defensive 50 and his tackle count. Geez.....!
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Jim05 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:11 am

I personally dont have a problem with Allan winning the MM, has once again proven to be the best player in the comp. Just have a real issue with people comparing him to Ebert, Robran and co. No doubt a great player but not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as those other legends. Name of the medal should of changed once the Crows were formed
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Sheik Yerbouti » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:19 am

Jim05 wrote:I personally dont have a problem with Allan winning the MM, has once again proven to be the best player in the comp. Just have a real issue with people comparing him to Ebert, Robran and co. No doubt a great player but not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as those other legends. Name of the medal should of changed once the Crows were formed


In that case you would change the status of the premiership medals & value of the flag pre 91.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:40 am

Stay on topic and no trolling (or ignore previous 0/10 rated trolling please).

Amazing effort by Jimmy. Should be his 4th medal and only injury stopped him from getting a potential 5th MM and Liston.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby CK » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:44 am

In the post-Medal press conference last night, James Allan stated he would be playing at North Adelaide in 2012. Very good news for North fans, and the SANFL.

Also did not hold back on his thoughts about various quarters that have questioned his game style over the years.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Jimmy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:47 am

HOORAY PUNT wrote:Mel Greig is good to look at but she won't be doing it next year. Very tacky .


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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Punk Rooster » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:51 am

Congratulations James Allan on being the Fairest & Most Brilliant Player for the third time-a very deserving winner.
Wasn't the runaway winner that people thought, well done to Nick Liddle and Paul Thomas on having great years also.

Nb. I notice it's only the Norwood supporters who've taken issue- a chip on the shoulder remaining from Maccas inelegibility to win the 1987 Magarey Medal?
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Jim05 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:07 am

Punk Rooster wrote:Congratulations James Allan on being the Fairest & Most Brilliant Player for the third time-a very deserving winner.
Wasn't the runaway winner that people thought, well done to Nick Liddle and Paul Thomas on having great years also.

Nb. I notice it's only the Norwood supporters who've taken issue- a chip on the shoulder remaining from Maccas inelegibility to win the 1987 Magarey Medal?

Not true about Norwood supporters. I said he was a very worthy winner and he is probably the best player in the last 20 years but i dare say even North supporters would be offended at him even being mentioned in the same breath as the great man Robran.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Brodlach » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:07 am

CK wrote:In the post-Medal press conference last night, James Allan stated he would be playing at North Adelaide in 2012. Very good news for North fans, and the SANFL.

Also did not hold back on his thoughts about various quarters that have questioned his game style over the years.



On the news last night, he mentioned he would go back home at the end of the 2012 season.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby HOORAY PUNT » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:01 am

CK wrote:In the post-Medal press conference last night, James Allan stated he would be playing at North Adelaide in 2012. Very good news for North fans, and the SANFL.

Also did not hold back on his thoughts about various quarters that have questioned his game style over the years.


No surprise he is playing on as he signed a 2 year deal last year .Was there a chance he wasn't going to play ?
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:05 am

Jim05 wrote:I personally dont have a problem with Allan winning the MM, has once again proven to be the best player in the comp. Just have a real issue with people comparing him to Ebert, Robran and co. No doubt a great player but not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as those other legends. Name of the medal should of changed once the Crows were formed

change the name of the medal? why? put it this way, the competition was called the SANFL back in the 40's & 50's but the standard back then was nowhere NEAR the standard is these days, so shall we name the medal a different name for different eras? I think not, sillious soddus, Jimbo! ;)
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby JK » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:07 am

Punk Rooster wrote:Nb. I notice it's only the Norwood supporters who've taken issue- a chip on the shoulder remaining from Maccas inelegibility to win the 1987 Magarey Medal?


Yes, that's very prevalent in our minds on a regular basis :lol:

Im not sure why people get so up in arms over other people's opinions, that's footy across the board, everyone will always have a higher opinion of their own players as opposed to opponents.

That said, Im not sure how anyone could dispute Allan's victory this season .. From the little Ive seen of him I actually thought this was his best season to date, and I honestly cant recall seeing any player at this level with as good a tank as this bloke.

Top efforts by Liddle and Thomas also.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:08 am

JK wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Nb. I notice it's only the Norwood supporters who've taken issue- a chip on the shoulder remaining from Maccas inelegibility to win the 1987 Magarey Medal?


Yes, that's very prevalent in our minds on a regular basis :lol:

Im not sure why people get so up in arms over other people's opinions, that's footy across the board, everyone will always have a higher opinion of their own players as opposed to opponents.

That said, Im not sure how anyone could dispute Allan's victory this season .. From the little Ive seen of him I actually thought this was his best season to date, and I honestly cant recall seeing any player at this level with as good a tank as this bloke.

Top efforts by Liddle and Thomas also.

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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby Macca19 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:12 am

Fantastic effort from Jimmy. Clearly an excellent player, great accumulator of the ball and a disposal efficiency of 85% is as elite as it gets at any level of the game. Probably should have got more of a chance at the higher level. Comparisons with legends is way premature though.
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:13 am

Macca19 wrote:Fantastic effort from Jimmy. Clearly an excellent player, great accumulator of the ball and a disposal efficiency of 85% is as elite as it gets at any level of the game. Probably should have got more of a chance at the higher level. Comparisons with legends is way premature though.

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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby JK » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:13 am

CENTURION wrote:
JK wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Nb. I notice it's only the Norwood supporters who've taken issue- a chip on the shoulder remaining from Maccas inelegibility to win the 1987 Magarey Medal?


Yes, that's very prevalent in our minds on a regular basis :lol:

Im not sure why people get so up in arms over other people's opinions, that's footy across the board, everyone will always have a higher opinion of their own players as opposed to opponents.

That said, Im not sure how anyone could dispute Allan's victory this season .. From the little Ive seen of him I actually thought this was his best season to date, and I honestly cant recall seeing any player at this level with as good a tank as this bloke.

Top efforts by Liddle and Thomas also.

don't patronise Us! ;)


I was talking about Keith Thomas ;)
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby CENTURION » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:18 am

that's ok then. beer in Premier's Bar with Me on Sunday?
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Re: Magarey Medal 2011

Postby JK » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:28 am

CENTURION wrote:that's ok then. beer in Premier's Bar with Me on Sunday?


Oh alright then ;)

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