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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby LBT » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:52 am

beenreal wrote:As far as North Adelaide is concerned, I've already mentioned Rob Gerard but I'd like to understand how Norwood and Sturt turned things around.

Sturt Peter Alledgedly gave Sturt a 6 figure sum :shock:
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby beenreal » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:17 am

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beenreal wrote:I stand by every fact I've stated, because that's exactly what they are, FACTS...Port Magpies financial woes are a direct result of not having effective access to its own revenue stream


And I'll ask again. Is the Prince of Wales solely owned by the PAMFC?


And I've previously stated, the PoW was the only license available which the PAMFC are currently paying off.
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby JK » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:28 am

beenreal wrote:As far as North Adelaide is concerned, I've already mentioned Rob Gerard but I'd like to understand how Norwood and Sturt turned things around.



Norwood were fortunate enough to have a solid asset base to keep the wolves at bay long enough (and just long enough) to address their income stream requirements (ie pokies).

Legitimate question here - Were Port to get their "White Knight" (Let's say Gordon Pickard comes in and hands the PAMFC $2 Million) how could/should the club invest it to create the cash cow they need to survive year after year? Would that type of money be enough to not just help, but allow for re-structuring to sufficiently get them out of the poo?
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby topsywaldron » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:06 am

beenreal wrote:
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beenreal wrote:I stand by every fact I've stated, because that's exactly what they are, FACTS...Port Magpies financial woes are a direct result of not having effective access to its own revenue stream


And I'll ask again. Is the Prince of Wales solely owned by the PAMFC?


And I've previously stated, the PoW was the only license available which the PAMFC are currently paying off.


Given that you own the PoW how can you keep saying you don't have your own revenue stream?

What do you mean the PoW was the only license available BTW?
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby beenreal » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:35 am

As a long term decision, the only thing the current revenue stream does is pay off the very expensive hotel license which was the only one on offer in the area.

And if a "White Knight" started chucking $$ the Magpies way I'd probably sell the PoW License and see what the Brien Family want for The Alberton Hotel. Although I understand that approach was made previously.
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby LPH » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:29 pm

beenreal wrote:I stand by every fact I've stated, because that's exactly what they are, FACTS.

Port Adelaide did not want to keep a side in the SANFL but it was stipulated by the Controlling Body (SANFL)

The PAFC did not force the Magpies from Alberton, the other 8 clubs did.

Port Magpies financial woes are a direct result of not having effective access to its own revenue stream, or a generous benefactor such as Rob Gerard.

And finally, Port Adelaide did not cause the extinction of the Dinosaurs, nor is it responsible for Global Warming, or the assassination of JFK.
Anyone disputing the above needs to provide tangible evidence to the contrary.


Are you sure?

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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Lynwood » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:21 am

It was the Power that keeped us from training at Alberton but it was the other clubs who tried to stop us once the new Power training facilities were built.

On the POW we have a 20 year lease.

There are two stories here
1 our lease payments are more then we are making
2 we have paid out our lease 4 years in advance and it is trying to repay the lease quicker that ios costing us money
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Barto » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:08 am

Lynwood wrote:There are two stories here
1 our lease payments are more then we are making
2 we have paid out our lease 4 years in advance and it is trying to repay the lease quicker that ios costing us money


Someone needs their arse kicked if they've made decisions like that.
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby jim5112 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:26 pm

beenreal wrote:I stand by every fact I've stated, because that's exactly what they are, FACTS.

Port Adelaide did not want to keep a side in the SANFL but it was stipulated by the Controlling Body (SANFL)

The PAFC did not force the Magpies from Alberton, the other 8 clubs did.

Port Magpies financial woes are a direct result of not having effective access to its own revenue stream, or a generous benefactor such as Rob Gerard.

And finally, Port Adelaide did not cause the extinction of the Dinosaurs, nor is it responsible for Global Warming, or the assassination of JFK.

Anyone disputing the above needs to provide tangible evidence to the contrary.


Or else what...? Will your head explode...?
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Barto » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:11 pm

OK, I'll take up the challenge. This was posted by a Port supporter on another forum:

The Port Adelaide Football Club lodged its tender document on 14 September 1994 and addressed the below issues that impacted on the SANFL competition and the Magpies.

--- The PAFC promoted strongly the idea of promotional zones with 4 SANFL clubs attached to each of the Crows and Port Adelaide.
--- The tender document strongly supported the continuation of the Magpies in the SANFL competition.
--- As part of the tender the Outback Odyssey would be run by the AFL club.
--- There was acknowledgement that to maximise the success of the Magpies it should operate as a separate organisation to the AFL club.
--- The document encouraged and promoted cross membership packages between the Magpies and the AFL club.
--- The PAFC tender document did not support nor agree to the pre-condition of a merger to create 8 SANFL teams was fundamental to the granting of the licence.


I'm not sure why many Port fans keep promoting their continuation in the SANFL as a result of "greed" by the SANFL and it's clubs. In light of what Port tendered to the SANFL in the AFL licence bid it appears to be other way around. There were plenty of SANFL people who were happy to be rid of them, "want out of the SANFL? OK, off you go then..".
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Barto » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:15 pm

To label the SANFL clubs as "greedy" because they want to not only survive, but prosper financially is laughable. It's not greedy to want to remain an ongoing concern. It's only greed when you want your prosperity at the expense of others, something that Port did in 1990.
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Hondo » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:20 pm

barto, I think you've got to get off that Port board on BigFooty

It'll do your head in
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Barto » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:32 pm

hondo71 wrote:barto, I think you've got to get off that Port board on BigFooty

It'll do your head in


It's a black hole of stupidity I've already long given up and BTW: this was from TPFP, not BF. I've been a member of TPFP for a while now and became friendly with the site owner, I'd never cause any issues over there as she actually helped me out in setting up db.org 6 years ago.

We still have people here who blame the SANFL for the woes of the PAFC and the PAMFC. The strange thing with these people is that you could get Bucky Cunningham himself to rock up at their house with the original tender document and they'd say he's a cyborg created by jealous SANFL supporters and the document is a forgery. If Scott Hodges accompanied him and he said "Oh by the way, the PAMFC is in fact the original club", they'd say his actually a ventriloquist dummy controlled by Graham Cornes. It's madness.
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Hondo » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:38 pm

Fair enough Barto

BF can be a minefield so I wondered if some of those guys were driving you insane :shock:

I've considered joining up to TPFP actually - just to try to get another perspective
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Barto » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:41 pm

hondo71 wrote:I've considered joining up to TPFP actually - just to try to get another perspective


I hadn't read it in a long time. It's a bit different to BF, over there they've driven out all the people who still support the Magpies, at TPFP they're still tearing each other apart.
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Magpiespower » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:21 am

Barto wrote:
hondo71 wrote:I've considered joining up to TPFP actually - just to try to get another perspective


I hadn't read it in a long time. It's a bit different to BF, over there they've driven out all the people who still support the Magpies, at TPFP they're still tearing each other apart.


Definitely an 'Us v Them' rivalry between some Port supporters on those sites.

Dunno why?

Almost like the bizarre Magpies v Power antagonism between some Port supporters...
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Magpiespower » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:34 am

Can't we all just get along...

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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Barto » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:07 pm

"Look out behind you Magpie! He's got a knife!"
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Re: ports 'prison bar' design to go ?

Postby Macca19 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:23 pm

I dont understand some of the hatred towards the magpies. I dont think BF is too bad, though obviously im biased. TPFP....ive been banned there for over two years and Im still unsure as to why.
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